Navy upset Irish for 2nd time in 3 years, 23-21

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SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP)—Navy’s second consecutive victory at Notre Dame Stadium didn’t produce the same euphoria for the Midshipmen as the last one.

Just another win as far Navy was concerned—though this loss to the Midshipmen was much more costly for Notre Dame.

Craig Schaefer sacked Jimmy Clausen in the end zone with 60 seconds left Saturday and Navy held on for a 23-21 victory, its second in three seasons against the 19th-ranked Fighting Irish.

“I wanted to run on the field and jump up and down, but I was kind of tired,” said linebacker Ram Vela, who had an interception and fumble recovery. “We’d done it before and we went into this game not really placing as much emphasis or too much importance on it. We just treated it like another game.”

Two years ago when Navy beat Notre Dame, the Irish were in the midst of a 3-9 season. The loss Saturday effectively ends any hope Notre Dame (6-3) had for its first Bowl Championship Series appearance since 2006.

Navy coach Ken Niumatalolo said he believed media speculation about Notre Dame chasing a BCS berth, along with the Irish playing at No. 14 Pittsburgh (8-1) next week, helped the Midshipmen.

“We kind of felt like we had them in a perfect storm. Just looking to the postseason, a very, very good Pitt team coming next week, and it’s us coming,” he said.

The last time an unranked Navy team beat a ranked Notre Dame team was 1936, the first year of the poll, when the Midshipmen won 3-0. Ranked Notre Dame teams had beat unranked Navy 41 straight times.

It’s the type of loss that will no doubt fire up the critics of Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis.

“That comes with the territory. The sad part of that is that’s this job every week,” said Weis, who is 35-24 in five season at Notre Dame. “It’s a week to week deal.”

Notre Dame (6-3) scored with 24 seconds left on a 31-yard pass from Jimmy Clausen to Golden Tate to cut the lead to two, but the ensuing onside kick went out of bounds.

“I love playing in South Bend,” safety Wyatt Middleton said. “I love playing here.”

The Midshipmen, who now go to the Texas Bowl, said the win two years ago helped them believe they could do it again. Vela said the biggest difference was the defense played better.

“Everyone put their all into it and rose to the occasion,” Vela said. “I think that’s what separates this game from the last time we best them.”

Ricky Dobbs threw a 52-yard touchdown pass and ran for another and fullback Vince Murray added a 25-yard TD run for Navy to lead the Midshipmen to consecutive wins in South Bend for the first time since 1961 and 1963.

Navy outrushed the Irish, playing without leading rusher Armando Allen Jr. because of an ankle injury, 348 yards to 60. Murray ran for 158 yards and a touchdown on 14 carries, becoming the first Navy running back to rush for 100 yards for four straight games since Napoleon McCallum in 1983.

Dobbs, who played only seven plays in the last two games because of a knee injury, added 102 yards on 31 carries and completed 2 of 3 for 56 yards.

Clausen was 37 of 57 yards passing for 452 yards, all career highs. The 37 completions are a school record and the yardage is the fourth best in school history. Heisman Trophy-worthy numbers, but with Notre Dame down a touchdown and less than a two minutes left, Clausen was sacked on consecutive plays. The last one gave Navy its final two points and all but sealed the victory.

“It’s a heartbreaking loss,” Clausen said.

Floyd, playing his first game after breaking his collarbone in September, matched his career high with 10 catches for 141 yards. Tate had nine catches for 132 yards.

The Irish managed to cut the lead to 21-14 when Floyd caught a 12-yard TD pass from Clausen with 4:46 left in the game. The game appeared over when Schaefer sacked Clausen with 60 seconds left. But Tate recovered the onside kick by Nick Tausch to give the Irish once last chance and they converted it for a score, but they will lament the points they left behind.

Tausch, who had made a school-record 14 straight field goals, missed a 41-yard attempt wide left and a 30-yard try wide right. The Irish also had a fumble at the goal line and an interception at the 5.

“It came down to red zone production for us,” Weis said. “Getting the ball down into position to score was not the issue; it was scoring that was the issue.”

Updated Nov 7, 8:52 pm EST
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Head to Head - Week 10

Team Total Yds Pass Yds Rush Yds First Downs 3rdD% Pen./Yds Turnovers Time of Poss.
Navy 404 56 348 20 46.2% 7/49 0 32:19
Notre Dame 512 452 60 32 55.6% 6/53 3 27:41

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    JAMES Thu Nov 12, 2009 01:47 pm PST Report Abuse
    What makes a winner? Coaches universally say it's the one who scores one more point than his opponent. In last weekends game Navy scored two more on a play that had nothing to do with fowl blocking pratices, except by the Notre Dame offensive line. Navy did something all day that ND couldn't do. Run the ball. With a smaller line and certainly less recurited players, Navy had their way with the larger defensive Notre Dame players. Notre Dame couldn't run the ball. 60 yards in the game is certainly the reason that the score ended up as it did, along with the THREE turnovers. Generally when a team beats you two out of three years and the one loss was questionable at that, what makes you question the manhood of the opposition and not your own players. This was a team victory, and a real team loss. Any coach that is worth his reputation would be the first to offer his hand to his opponent and say "you kicked our butt," and then turn to his team and say, "fellows, we just got our butt's kicked, now are we going to hang our heads in shame or lift 'um up and get ready for our next opponent and we'll do some ass kicking!" It appears that the Notre Dame Coach has his values in the wrong area. Instead of accusations, he should be challenging his ball players to achieve a victory next week on another proud program. If ND takes a loss next week, you can't blame it all on the players, remember the coaches may not play, but if they don't prepare the players, they share in the blame for the loss. Can it be said that the losses by ND this year were by player errors or by misconceptions of coaching, or lack of thereof?
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    Navy Veteran Wed Nov 11, 2009 07:48 am PST Report Abuse
    I don't know if they would ever give a Hiesman to a Military man any more. The NCAA has their favorites, and do everything, as everyone has seen, to keep those teams at the top of the polls. Notice that they shot down extended video replay..because they don't want everyone to see all the games given to these teams who have really lost and shouldn't be undefeated or have 1 loss. If it weren't for the officiating, alabama, texas and florida would have lost those games. They were given those wins and the NCAA knows it.
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    Navy Veteran Wed Nov 11, 2009 07:43 am PST Report Abuse
    As a NAVY VETERAN, I want to say that the Navy has an awesome team and even though I live in Michigan, I always root for the Navy Team..it's in my blood !! I think that their losses were by their own mistakes, next year , look for them to be even better. I will always be proud of all the military teams. I think that they can hold there own against anyone !!! U.S.N. forever !!!
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    LW Mon Nov 09, 2009 02:16 pm PST Report Abuse
    The big headline on Sunday was that Navy upset 19th ranked Notre Dame.

    Now I don't mean to seem like I'm bashing Notre Dame, but I'm surprised, and a bit disappointed, that so many sports writers seemed shocked that the Midshipmen beat the Irish. Sure, I know the history of this rivalry, but the facts are that Notre Dame football is not the same dominant program it was in decades past, and Navy, although constrained by Ivy League admissions and academic standards and the recruiting challenges unique to the service academies, has an excellent football team and an impressive football program.

    Let's review. Navy has lost only three games this season, all to very good teams:

    - The first loss was a near upset of #6 ranked Ohio State which is currently ranked ranked #10 and is 8-2 on the season.
    - The second loss was a competitive game against then unranked Pitt; Pitt is currently ranked #6 and is 8-1 on the season.
    - The third was by three points to the best Temple football team we've seen in 20 years. The Owls are currently leading their conference and are at #35 and climbing in the AP poll.

    Navy beat solid teams with winning records from Air Force (now bowl eligible, congrats Falcons) and SMU. Navy also soundly defeated the same LA Tech team that gave #5 Boise State a competitive game and Navy beat the Wake Forest team that nearly upset #7 Georgia Tech.

    Navy is currently third in the nation in rushing yards per game and in the hunt for its sixth consecutive national rushing title. They are the least penalized team in NCAAF. Ricky Dobbs leads the nation in overall rushing points scored (102) and rushing TDs (17) plus he has four passing TDs for a total of 21 TDs despite a two game hiatus due to an injury.

    Speaking of which, when will we hear Dobbs' name mentioned as a Heisman contender? Notre Dame has two top Heisman contenders: Jimmy Clausen who has 20 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD for a total of 21 (same as Dobbs), and Golden Tate who has 10 receiving TDs. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that at the end of the season Dobbs will have more TDs that Clausen and Tate combined. And, unfortunately, I'd be willing to bet that Dobbs still won't be listed in the top 20 on any of the major Heisman watch lists.

    I think most sports writers and commentators now recognize that ND simply has not fielded a top 20 program this year. But as much as they over-valued the over-hyped ND program, they are making the opposite mistake of under-valuing a very good Navy team. While Navy has crawled to #30 in the AP poll, Rivals.com still lists Navy down at #37 behind, you guessed it, ND at #34. How about a little respect? Navy might never again have a top 10 team, but this team has the potential to end their season in the top 20. And despite facing an opponent with star players with first round draft potential like Clausen and Tate, Navy's team of under-sized and under-appreciated citizen-soldiers played with enough heart to deserve a little more respect than many have given them.

    I guess in the final analysis the men and women at Annapolis, West Point and the Air Force Academy, understand that they won't be playing for a school reknowned for churning out professional athletes. Rather, they aspire to be different kind of professional. Nor do they volunteer to serve their country with the hope of attaining the fleeting glory of a top 25 ranking. Rather, they devote their lives and willingly put themselves in Harm's Way for something much more meaningful, and through their lives of service and sacrifice, hopefully much more lasting.

    Go Navy!
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    Anthony H Mon Nov 09, 2009 01:58 pm PST Report Abuse
    Here's a tough pick. Which team is more overrated: USC or ND? Hmmmmmm.
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    Robert P Mon Nov 09, 2009 09:50 am PST Report Abuse
    All the Notre Dame haters and Notre Dame lovers are missing the point...IT'S NAVY'S Spectacular Victory....that's the story here. Way to go Middies! They've got a pretty good football team. It is fun to watch a bunch of overachievers go out week in and week out and demonstrate that they can be competitive in Division I.
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    BC Mon Nov 09, 2009 06:03 am PST Report Abuse
    Didn't Holtz say this team was going to be in the National Championship.....someone must have slipped some loco weed in his Geritol.
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    Dawgmeat Sun Nov 08, 2009 09:09 pm PST Report Abuse
    Bryce ......... holy cow dude ..... check yourself.

    Google me ????
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    Bryce Harte Sun Nov 08, 2009 08:24 pm PST Report Abuse
    liberals_ar_sissies: Great handle. Michigan is an excellent academic school. No argument here. It ranks near the top in all categories. But UM's graduation rate for their athletes? Where does it rank in comparison to Notre Dame?

    Now about Notre Dame's standing offensively and defensively. First of all, when you consider a team's standing either offensively or defensively, you can't take into account their opponent's standing in those categories. Why? Because your team contributed to the opponent's standing. What you have to consider in the equation to determine the worth of a team's offense or defense is this one factor: Is your team's average higher or lower than the opponent's average in the opposite category. In other words, did Notre Dame run up more yards on a team than the average of the other teams who played the same opponent. If Notre Dame's yardage against them higher than the average of the other teams, then Notre Dame contributed greatly to that team being a poor defensive team.

    Not to take anything away from Case Keenum, but the competition he has played against is hardly better than to the competition Jimmy Clausen has faced. Of Houston's four non-conference opponents, the only one ranked is Oklahoma State, and their defense is porous at best. Texas Tech plays shootout football. Mississippi State is a low end SEC team. And Northwestern State is a D-1AA team in Louisiana. And C-USA? Not a BCS conference. Not even as good as the WAC or the Mountain West for that matter.

    Even though your football argument is weak at best, I still like your handle.
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    Bryce Harte Sun Nov 08, 2009 08:07 pm PST Report Abuse
    427 Shelby: If you and any other people on here are here to discuss college football, then discuss college football. Laughing at a team that loses or raving because your team won isn't discussing college football. It's just jackasses braying in the wind. Discussing college football is saying things like Navy played some great defense at just the right times and they were steady as a rock on offense, while Notre Dame made a game of it despite their poor play at critical times. That is discussing the game. Guffawing in type because Notre Dame lost is simply childish.

    This is the biggest problem I have with all those who do this chiding of Notre Dame when they lose. In fact, I have this same problem with the Oregon fans who shot their mouths off when their guys hammered USC, and I really hate USC. It's not right to rub anybody's nose in the mud after a game like that. I didn't post any remarks after that game, and I didn't post any when Purdue beat Ohio State or when Nebraska, Miami, or Texas beat Oklahoma. I don't do this because I know how it feels to be on the losing side, and all of you should remember that, too.

    And one of you called me a poor sport? You buttheads still need to look in the mirror.

    I chose my pseudonym for one reason. I hoped western readers would connect the surname to Bret Harte and think I was related. Can't blame me for wanting to capitalize on a good thing.

    Finally, when someone challenges my knowledge, my achievements, or my integrity, I will stand up for myself, and if you don't like it or think I'm wrong for doing that, then kiss my rosy red butt. Before August 20, it was mostly lily white, but that was the day I had a tumor removed from that area and since then it's been rosy red and raw. So I'm just a little irritable much of the time. Fencing with you buttheads on here makes me forget about the pain for a while, so maybe I should thank you guys for that much.

    No matter what you guys say, Notre Dame will still be one of the finest universities in the country with a proud tradition in football, have it's own network television contract, and continue to be supported by the largest fan base in the country.
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    Liberals are whiny sissie ... Sun Nov 08, 2009 07:38 pm PST Report Abuse
    Icantmakeuthink, ND has one of the best offensive teams, not the best but one of the top 20. Top 10 in yards but 37th in points per game. They have only played one team with a decent defense. Other than USC, they have played some of the worst defensive teams in the country.

    ND's defense is in the bottom third. Clausen is on of the top 10 but is not the best. He's a joke for the Heisman . He is over 100 yds per game behind Keenum and Houston plays tougher competition.

    face it, ND is over rated, very good offense with a horrible defense.

    I'm a Michigan man and hardly jealous of ND's academic reputation, so good luck with your theory on academics.
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    Ralph Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:51 pm PST Report Abuse
    You are dead on it theshutterguy.The fact that he said he wouldn't change how he coaches shows his ignorance and his arrogance.Not only have they played only one rank team.Only 3 teams they have played are in the top-half of their conference.6-3 just doesn't cut it in my book.
    bryce.I never said I hate Notre Dame.I love the Irish.Its Weis that I can't stand.After five years I think he has done a poor job.Sure they are putting up great passing numbers.Hell you could have got Mouse Davis at an eight of the price to have a good offense. Notre dame has never been good when it has had poor running games.Three of the worst rushing years in school history is on Charlie's watch.You make all the excuse for him that you want but I'm tried of hearing them
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    Wise old dude Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:36 pm PST Report Abuse
    BTW, any of you who are familiar with the CIC can add a post here. Didn't think so.
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    FLakers Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:31 pm PST Report Abuse
    435- My team is whoever is playing ND on a given Saturday.
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    Wise old dude Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:31 pm PST Report Abuse
    I was responding specifically to comments made that ND was "among the Ivy League". Simply not true. I most certainly did not say it wasn't a good school. I also cited only graduate school rankings.

    All of what I cited was completely true, and it wasn't written as a marketing document. Keep in mind also that the cut and paste you did constitutes copyright infringement.
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    emilsnake Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:30 pm PST Report Abuse
    I wonder what that senile old fart, Lou Holtz has to say now. He's such a friggin' ND homo. I can't believe the network let's him go off with his totally unfounded predictions.

    I'm sure glad Clausen chose to attend ND over SC.....

    I think the camera shot yesterday of Weis slobbering all over himself pretty much says it all. Poor guy. If his brain was as big as his a$$, he'd rule the world.
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    Michael Sun Nov 08, 2009 05:17 pm PST Report Abuse
    Exactly. By the way, Mark Twain is my pseudo name, go ahead and google it. You will see all the books I have written...
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    tomas Sun Nov 08, 2009 04:30 pm PST Report Abuse
    I named myself after a Western writer and I talk too much to strangers about things that don't matter.
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    Pk Sun Nov 08, 2009 03:29 pm PST Report Abuse
    what I want to know is how Notre Dame ever had a chance at a BCS bowl....? They are the biggest joke--well apart from Ohio State. They deserve a no-name bowl game, just like every other 7-5 team. They don't have an impressive win yet. It's about time we got out of the "ND is the greatest" realm. Until they are, they will be tagged with the most over-rated team in history.
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    427 Shelby Sun Nov 08, 2009 03:23 pm PST Report Abuse
    Bryce. I am afraid our argument has strayed dramatically from its origins. I beleive this site is for football. However, I will make one final comment. You should be proud of your accomplishments. Being published is not easy. And, if you really wrote 35 books, hey that's great. The fact that you are not an alum of Notre Dame is also an important point. You are a "local" and proud of your team. However, I don't get the acedemic push you are throwing out there if you didn' t go there. Who cares? We were talking football anyway. Secondly, no, I have not been published. I am not a writer by profession. And, no, I have a degree, but didn't look at it as any kind of great accomplishment. Just another step in life. No big deal. Also, I don't post on these sites to list my personal accomplishments. I am on here to discuss college football. A sport I enjoy watching. I haven't played, coached or written about it, I just enjoy watching. I think you miss the point of all this (your team is going to get picked on when they lose). Get over it. Who knows, maybe you sold some western fiction today.
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    Michael Sun Nov 08, 2009 03:21 pm PST Report Abuse
    Shelby

    Please don't respond to btyce harte. The guy is an imposter...Easy to see..
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    Bryce Harte Sun Nov 08, 2009 02:51 pm PST Report Abuse
    427 Shelby: How many books have you had published? Here's a little stat for you. The chances of being published by a New York publishing house are greater than becoming a professional athlete. My first book was published at the age of 32. In fact, I had three books published that year. Do you have any idea what an achievement that is? Probably not because you're probably some guy with a degree who thinks graduating from college an incredible achievement. I've met lots of you buttheads who can't think outside the box and who couldn't begin to think of doing half of what I've done in my life so far without a degree of any kind except one from the School of Hard Knox where I graduated magna cum laude probably before you were born. Everything I've accomplished so far in my life I've done without the benefit of a college degree or a wealthy family. I've done it because of the love the most wonderful woman this earth, my wife of 35 years. Unlike my first wife, my soul-mate has believed in me since Day One. Bet you can't say that. By the way, getting a western published is tougher these days than getting a mystery published. And if you check it out thoroughly, there were 10 titles in the CREED Series, and all 10 were written by me. Very few authors can make that claim.
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    Bryce Harte Sun Nov 08, 2009 02:35 pm PST Report Abuse
    Mike D: I'm a high school dropout who joined the navy and got my GED there. I have less than three years of formal college and none of it at Notre Dame. I was born in South Bend and grew up an Irish fan. I write books, newspaper and magazine articles, and edit other people's books for them. My real name can be found in the bibliographies of other sportsbooks writers books. Street smarts? What would you know about street smarts, a guy with clients? Are you a broker, a lawyer, a bookie or a pimp? Google me, wise a$$. I dare you.
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    __A_YAHOO_USER__ Sun Nov 08, 2009 02:26 pm PST Report Abuse
    Oh Oh, somebody's a big fibber:

    [ Wise old dude
    429. Posted by Wise old dude Sun Nov 8 4:37pm EST
    Bryce Hart,
    ND does not rank among the Ivy League. It's not even the top school in Indiana in any graduate concentrations. Business? Both Purdue and IU rank higher. Law? IU ranks higher. Purdue has no law school. Engineering? Yea right.

    ND has a weak reputation in academic circles, and in fact would have joined the Big Ten several years ago but its academics and research were not adequate to be a member of the CIC. Had nothing to do with sports. ]

    Kevin D
    436. Posted by Kevin D Sun Nov 8 5:10pm EST
    Wise old Dude:
    Got something I just copy and pasted about Notre Dame, sounds like a pretty damn good school if you ask me:

    In 2009-2010, Notre Dame ranked 20th overall among "national universities" in the United States in U.S. News & World Report's best colleges.[94] U.S. News and World Report also lists Notre Dame Law School as 22nd overall, and the Gourman Report, which is published by The Princeton Review, ranks the Law School at 18th.[76] BusinessWeek ranks Mendoza College of Business undergraduate school as 2nd overall.[95] It ranks the MBA program as 20th overall. Additionally, The Washington Monthly ranked the university 13th nationally in its 2006 edition.[96] BusinessWeek also ranked the undergraduate business program as 2nd nationally.[97] The Philosophical Gourmet Report ranked Notre Dame's graduate philosophy program as 13th nationally,[98] while ARCHITECT Magazine, ranked the undergraduate architecture program as 12th nationally.[99] Additionally, the study abroad program ranks sixth in highest participation percentage in the nation, with 57.6% of students choosing to study abroad in 17 countries.[100] According to payscale.com, undergraduate alumni of University of Notre Dame have a mid-career median salary $121,000, making it the 8th highest among colleges and universities in the United States. The median starting salary of $55,300 ranked 41st in the same peer group.[101]

    Your response, "wise old dude?" Define why "ND has a weak reputation in academic circles." Bwahahahahaha.

    Never mind, I'm sure it would strain your "old" brain cells.

    Amazing how many fools are jealous of EVERY ASPECT of Notre Dame. Just make sh!t up as they go along.. Where do you all come from??? Hahahaha..
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    427 Shelby Sun Nov 08, 2009 02:25 pm PST Report Abuse
    OK,. so I Googled Bryce Harte butthead. Whether that is you is a different argument altogether. Looks like westerns published in the early 1990's. Light reading. Probably 200 pages or so.Nothing academic or Pulitzer-like. Am I supposed to be impressed? Hardly. Knowing that was sixteen years ago you are not the youngster I suspected writing this diatribe of misinformation. Another reason I am disappointed. Now I suspect you are just a crazy old man living in the past. What a shame Go Knute Rockne..

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