Miles, Saban voice support for SEC officials

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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP)—Les Miles decided not to test the SEC’s new get-tough policy regarding coaches criticizing officials.

The LSU coach said Monday he spoke with Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive and coordinator of officials Rogers Redding about a near-interception by Patrick Peterson late in the Tigers’ 24-15 loss to Alabama. Officials ruled Peterson caught the ball out of bounds and replay officials did not overturn the call, though video showed the LSU defensive back might have had a foot down in bounds.

LSU asked the league to review the call and Miles said he was satisfied with the response he received.

“I know these officials are trying,” he said during his weekly news conference in Baton Rouge, La. “They are doing everything they can to get it right. The final score is the final score. The officials are working hard to get it right. If I felt differently, I would say so.”

But then he’d have to take out his checkbook. The SEC fined Florida coach Urban Meyer $30,000 last week for saying referees missed a late hit against Georgia on quarterback Tim Tebow, making him the first coach punished under the league’s new policy of skipping public reprimands and going straight to fines or suspension.

The questionable call in the LSU game was the latest in a series of high-profile ones that have left SEC fans, and at times coaches, grumbling.

Peterson stepped in front of Greg McElroy’s pass and might have gotten his left foot down in bounds—maybe both feet—but was ruled out with 5:54 left and LSU trailing 21-15. Replay official Gerald Hodges determined there wasn’t the required “indisputed video evidence” to overturn the call.

“I know I was in,” Peterson said after the game. “The officials said the pass was incomplete because I was out of bounds. There is nothing you can do now.”

SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said the league would not comment on the call.

“The standard procedure for us has been that the school turns in a list of plays and we look at those plays and give them back a review of those plays,” Bloom said. “That’s what we’re doing.”

Miles did not join Meyer, Arkansas’ Bobby Petrino, Tennessee’s Lane Kiffin and Mississippi State’s Dan Mullen in publicly criticizing the officials. Petrino, Kiffin and Mullen were all reprimanded within a week and soon after the SEC decided to make the punishment for knocking officials more severe.

Miles said he was convinced Slive and Redding looked at the play “long and hard.” So did he.

“I know the officials could not see the play,” the coach said. “They were in great position. One official could not see the play because he couldn’t see through the back of Patrick Peterson. The only other official who could see the play, was on the other boundary.

“He couldn’t see through one of our players. So, it goes to replay. If it’s not irrefutable, there’s no reversal. The replay man is given instruction to defend and defer to the call on the field.”

Alabama coach Nick Saban lashed out at the critics, not the officials.

“If I was an official and I was making what I made officiating because I love the game and I love doing it, and I was getting criticized by the media— including our announcers on TV—like these guys are getting criticized, I’d step back and say, ‘I think I’ll go to the lake this weekend. You can have this,”’ Saban said. “That’s what I’d do.

He also noted that LSU would still have had to drive nearly 70 yards with both quarterback Jordan Jefferson and tailback Charles Scott out with injuries, against one of the nation’s top defenses.

“If it was an interception, that doesn’t mean they win the game,” Saban said. “It was hard for me to tell on our film. I don’t watch the TV stuff. I can’t tell you or give you an opinion one way or the other.”

The SEC publicly suspended a crew that called two personal foul penalties in separate games that were not supported by video evidence.

One of the calls came in the Arkansas-Florida game and aided a Gators’ touchdown drive late in their 23-20 victory.

Kiffin complained about the officials after a 12-10 loss at Alabama and Mullen did the same after a replay review went Florida’s way during his team’s 29-19 loss to the Gators.

Alabama and Florida are undefeated and will meet in the SEC championship game. If they stay unbeaten, the game in Atlanta will also be for a spot in the national title game.

Kentucky defensive lineman Corey Peters, who has faced both teams, doesn’t buy into talk that Florida and Alabama are getting a hand from the league.

“I think Florida’s a great football team,” Peters said. “I don’t think they need any help. Officials can’t put the ball in the end zone. They can’t put points on the board.”

Alabama’s McElroy said he also didn’t think the Tide and Gators had gotten preferential treatment.

“There’s been as many calls against us as there has been for us,” McElroy said.

As far as Peterson’s play, he said he hadn’t watched a replay.

“The SEC officials, they’re very professional in their job, they take their job very seriously and 99 percent of the time they’re going to get the call right,” McElroy said.

Vanderbilt coach Bobby Johnson left the officials alone, but questioned whether coaches should get fined for voicing an opinion.

“(Meyer) said in his opinion he thought it was the wrong call,” Johnson said. “I think everybody can have an opinion.

“I think we ought to have the opportunity to say I disagree with a call and not be fined. You can’t say, `Well I think he did it on purpose or I think it’s a conspiracy or whatever.’ But if I think it was a bad call, I ought to be able to say it was a bad call. But I guess I can’t.”

AP Sports Writers Teresa Walker in Nashville, Tenn., and Jeff McMurray in Lexington, Ky., contributed to this report.

Updated Nov 9, 6:09 pm EST
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Head to Head - Week 10

Team Total Yds Pass Yds Rush Yds First Downs 3rdD% Pen./Yds Turnovers Time of Poss.
LSU 253 158 95 13 35.7% 8/43 1 27:08
Alabama 452 276 176 24 28.6% 4/20 1 32:52

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  1. Csquared
    1061. Posted by Csquared Mon Nov 16 4:11am EST

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    I will end the Anti-Alabama threads once and for all.


    Games that matter
    Sat. Sept. 19 W 23-13 Tennessee 3:30 P.M. CBS
    Sat. Sept. 26 W 41-7 at Kentucky 6:00 P.M. espn2 (Lexington KY)
    Sat. Oct. 10 W 13-3 at LSU 8:00 P.M. CBS (Baton Rouge LA)
    Sat. Oct. 17 W 23-20 Arkansas 3:30 P.M. CBS (Homecoming hum.... thanks refs for the happy homecoming
    Sat. Oct. 24 W 29-19 at Mississippi State 7:30 P.M. ESPN (Starkville MS)
    Sat. Nov 14 W 24-14 at South Carolina (making any since here SC scored a whopping 6 points against Alabama.)

    09/26/09 vs. Arkansas * TV Tuscaloosa, Ala. W, 35-7
    10/03/09 at Kentucky * TV Lexington, Ky. W, 38-20
    10/24/09 vs. Tennessee * TV Tuscaloosa, Ala. W, 12-10
    11/07/09 vs. LSU * TV Tuscaloosa, Ala. W, 24-15
    11/16/09 at Mississippi State, Starkville, MS W31-3


    Regardless of points per game Alabama D has allowed less points than Florida.

    Defense wins championships!

    joshua z,

    Seriously, Alabama was suppose to be the best team last year, but what happened they lost to Florida, then got spanked by Utah.....Texas might not have played anyone, but when they do they always seem to find a way to win. You just hate Florida and Texas because they are favored over Alabama. I like Texas Florida Alabama Arkansas and Oregon. I dont like USC LSU or OSU. I am glad all three won but ultimately Florida or Alabama have to lose out of the NC. For the NCAA not to have another year like the past few, and talk about playoffs it will most likely be Florida and Texas for the NC. I do wish a playoff was set so the true NC is crowned. Oh and every big team plays cupcake teams for guarenteed victories yes Texas does but so does Alabama. Virginia Tech is in the ACC a joke to the SEC if Alabama would have lost it would have lost its credibility. Talk smack about Texas and Florida as much as you want, but your team Alabama is just as guilty of scheduling cupcake teams. Oh and the VT game was scheduled b4 VT was ranked....Think about it. All big teams choose to play small teams over other big teams. Texas is 5-0 in BCS Bowls with one NC over USC, Florida has 3 NC it the past 4 years. LSU has the other one. Alabama has lost to Utah last year. I ask again who has more credibility to play for NC to end the decade?

    I don't like Florida because of the numbers the BCS don't reflect the schedules period and Texas is cool with me. Greg Mc is from Texas so I love those guys, but lets be serious Mac Brown do not won't any part of Nick Saban trust me.

    Hook em more like get stuck.

    What is that guy watching on TV? That was last year friends things change vendettas get formed. But hey do not take my word for it keep watching Texas V Alabama NC Alabama over Texas by 17 points.

    Then Utah who??????
    Why because Texas have not been introduced to MT Cody. :0
  2. bamagrlntx1971
    1060. Posted by bamagrlntx1971 Sat Nov 14 6:18pm EST

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    Roll Tide!! What really makes Bama the best is they have the best, most devoted, dedicated fans...so in case you haven't heard it today....Roll Tide!! ......enough said....hahahah
  3. STAR POWER
    1059. Posted by STAR POWER Sat Nov 14 10:42am EST

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    Phil..............only inmates go off like you. so it makes me wonder what the IQ means in your world....... I got it ...............Inmate Queer.. you were someones bit*h in jail
    and now you are bound to take it out on someone else.. With your thought process ,your IQ can not be out of single digits. Stupidity is allowed in this country and you are bound and determined to prove it. You are lower that whale poop and that is at the bottom of the ocean, you would sure have to look up to see trailer trash.
    In your world, you would probably gain respect for your diatribe, lifer inmates are like that. Your computer time is probably up by now. go back to your cell..........
  4. Phil
    1058. Posted by Phil Fri Nov 13 10:07pm EST

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    Casie the welder. Your lucky I haven't me your wife / girlfriend yet. I would make her mine easy. I mean come on..you are a welder. LOL...a freakin welder. I own you in terms of intellect. there is no way your IQ is remotely close to mine. Then again, maybe your meatsleave is a toothless c u n t. My guess is that is exactly what she is. Nothing more than trailor park trash. Then again, sounds lime something I could abuse for awhile
  5. Phil
    1057. Posted by Phil Fri Nov 13 9:55pm EST

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    Casie you are a joke. What team do you think was disappointed last year. Obviously Utah was much more disappointed than Bama was last year as Utah should have played for a NC game. Bama lost in the SEC title game so they were lucky to be asked to a BCS game. Utah humiliated Bama even though they had nothing to play for. It was obvious that Utah was better than Bama and frankly anyone in the SEC. I am confused why you think the SEC is such a tough conference. They have proved to be nothing more than average. They have 3 ranked teams this year (6th best conference in terms of ranked teams top to bottom), they were 5-6 verse the ACC last year and they were 11-11 verse the top 7 conferences. You seem to be under the illusion that the SEC is really strong.

    If WVA is such an average team, tell me why they put up the most yards against Auburn all year. No one has come close. By your standards, if the game had any meaning, WVA would have beat Auburn by 30 points.

    You are such a hypocrite. You state that Bama would have beaten Utah if it was a NC game. How is that any different than me saying that TN and LSU would have beaten Bama if it wasn't for the refs. By your logic, If TN and LSU played Bama on a neutral field than both TN and LSU would have won.

    You can't come close to my IQ. You are a welder for Christs sake. You are nothing in my mind...NOTHING. You are a joke. If I saw you at any game, I would gut you like a fish. I would laugh as I spill your insides onto the grassy knoll. I would then take your wife and stick her in the azz with a hot poker. I would laught he whole time...LOL
  6. Casie C
    1056. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 8:44pm EST

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    bill: utah was pretty good last season, and its not that no bowl other than the title game is unimportant, just a bowl vs a non bcs opponent, who everyone expects you to beat with nothing to gain, while the non bcs team you are playing is in the biggest game in school history. if you win, everyone says, oh course you won, you were playing a non bcs team who was overrated. if you lose, everyone says you stink because you lost to a non bcs team who you should have beat. its almost a no win situation
  7. Bill N
    1055. Posted by Bill N Fri Nov 13 7:56pm EST

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    Amazing, Phil, how Alabama can only get inspired to win when it's only in the bowl for the NC. Guess they haven't been inspired in a while. All the other SEC teams kick butt usually, or at least play their hardest, in their bowl games. Alabama is special though; either the NC or they're gonna be uninterested and sulk. They just can't simply say that Utah was a pretty darn good team last season. I support the SEC, but Utah impressed me last year.
  8. Ricky
    1054. Posted by Ricky Fri Nov 13 5:34pm EST

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    if lsu would have been LEADING the game they wouldn't have to worry about the dam call.holla! and i've been reading comments from some soldiers in the sandbox---god bless and ya'll be careful so you can come back and watch the tide roll.BE SAFE AND KEEP YA HEAD ON A SWIVEL !!!!
  9. Casie C
    1053. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 5:06pm EST

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    oh, and cincy will lose coach kelly, and in a couple years be back to their old self, just like louisville after petrino left
  10. Casie C
    1052. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 4:45pm EST

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    phil; with Alabama's 2009 schedule to date, wv would be 5-4 or, with losses to va tech, arkansas, lsu, and either ole miss or tennessee. they already lost to auburn, turnovers or no turnovers, they lost.
  11. Casie C
    1051. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 4:37pm EST

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    phil: cincy will beat wv soundly! wv is an average team, and noel devine may not play, and if he does, he is not 100%!

    cincy-34
    wv-17
  12. Casie C
    1050. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 4:34pm EST

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    phil: ANY of these teams would have beat utah in a bcs title game last year: florida, oklahoma, usc, texas, Alabama. yes, in a title game, Bama would have beat them. florida was the best team last year hands down, they would have beat utah by 14-20 points. florida played 12 winning teams last year(beat 11) thats more than anyone, they played 11 bowl teams last year(beat 10)again, that is more than any other team, they beat two #1's, they embarrased most of their opponents, and their 1 loss was by 1 point to a team that finished in the top 15, and ole miss never lost a game by more than 7 last year, and all 4 of their losses were by a combined 18 points. ole miss easily beat #6 texas tech(who only lost once to oklahoma, and beat texas) in the cotton bowl. no other team was close to florida last year
  13. Casie C
    1049. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 4:28pm EST

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    phil: i know all about cincy, pike, caleros, gilyard, coach kelly, and i give them more respect than the others, but, the big east is weak, wv is an average team, south florida is average, rutgers is average, pitt is pretty good and before you go crowning cincy in the big east, i think pitt will beat them in 2 weeks. do not try to lecture me abouy college football, my knowledge of the game is far supirior to yours!
  14. Casie C
    1048. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 4:24pm EST

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    phil: never said i did not respect boise or utah, just that playing them in a bowl is meaningles to ANY team unless its a title game. i respect the fact that they, and tcu could as they say," beat anyone on a given day", but i do not care about what a team can do on a given day, i care about a season's worth of work. compared to the teams that play on the sec or pac-10, boise, utah , and tcu haven't earned it, i do not feel ANY of them could do better than 9-3 or10-2 with an sec schedule.
  15. Phil
    1047. Posted by Phil Fri Nov 13 4:03pm EST

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    WVA is not a powerhouse but they are better than most of the teams that Bama has played all year. Keep in mind that WVA totally gave the game to Auburn this year. They managed to have 6 turnovers (5 int and 1 fumble) and Auburn still needed to score two TDs in the 4th quarter to comeback and win that game, despite being outgained by WVA and having less 1st downs. It will be interesting to see if Cincinnati can contain the offense that racked up 509 yds against Auburn, the most against Auburn all year including their games against Miss, LSU, Arkansas, Kentucky, TN, and Miss St.
  16. Simon S
    1046. Posted by Simon S Fri Nov 13 3:51pm EST

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    We will learn a little bit about Cincinnati tonight when they take on West Virginia. Hardly a major power but they can play.
  17. Simon S
    1045. Posted by Simon S Fri Nov 13 3:51pm EST

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    We will learn a little bit about Cincinnati tonight when they take on West Virginia. Hardly a major power but they can play.
  18. Phil
    1044. Posted by Phil Fri Nov 13 2:55pm EST

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    5-6 verse the ACC last year...LOL
  19. Phil
    1043. Posted by Phil Fri Nov 13 2:53pm EST

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    Casie - You can't be respected unless you respect others. You blatantly called out Boise and Utah and indicated you didn't respect their team. Funny - I have a few friends that grew up in Utah and they were very dissappointed to have to play Alabama last year. They believed (and rightly so) that they were the best team in the nation and should have played Oklahoma for the national championship (instead of a team that lost to a non-ranked opponent). they were down right pissed to have to play a team as lowly as Alabama. It turns out they were right. They humiliated Bama and showed how vastly superior their team was. Frankly Bama didn't deserve to be on the same field with them. Until you give respect to these teams, it's hard to have any respect for the people like you...especially guys that are welders and such...I mean what do these tools know. I've heard ignorant Bama fans that think that Cincinnati sucks, just because they haven't been on the national scene for awhile. Anyone that knows anything about football knows the talent Cincinnati has and they have a QB that is better than every QB in the SC except maybe Tebow (Don't think so, go look at the draft prospects for 2010). They also have a wide receiver that is as good as anyone in the SEC (Ginyard), not to mention a stout defense. SEC fans are too ignorant to acknowledge and they will blanketly say, "Oh Cincy would finish neat the bottom of the SEC if they were in the SEC". This just shows the level of ignorance of the SEC fans. Need I remind you morons that the SEC was 5-6 verse the SEC last year and 11-11 verse the top 7 conferences. Please explain that
  20. Bill N
    1042. Posted by Bill N Fri Nov 13 2:26pm EST

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    casie c- LSU is one of those teams with 2 BCS championships and have also been very happy to play in the other "meaningless" bowls; some won , some lost
  21. Casie C
    1041. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 12:53pm EST

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    bill: and of those 6-8 team i would say that all of them, have had ups and downs! usc was garbage for all of the 90's before thie last 6 or 7 year run, florida was been consistant in that run from 1992-now, ohio st has been pretty good most if those years, lsu was average at best in the 90's and was 7-5 last year, texas and oklahoma have only been in dominant fashion for the last 6-8 years, florida st was real good until the recent, neraska and has been average as of the last several years. michigan and miami has been consistant until the last couple years.

    as you can see none of those teams, over the last 17 year stretch, have been head and shoulders ahead of Alabama in every season. only a couple of those teams have more than 1 national title in that 17 year span, so, as you can see, its not near as bad being a Bama fan the last 17 years, as it has been to be a fan of about 90% of the other schools out there!

    ROLL TIDE!
  22. Casie C
    1040. Posted by Casie C Fri Nov 13 12:39pm EST

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    bill: you say what has Bama done lately, and it must have been hard on Bama fans since 1992. no, actually is has not been too bad, i will say that since 1992, only about 6 or 8 teams in the nation have had more success in that time. since 1992 Alabama has had seven 10+ win seasons(and are on their way to # eight), been to 12 bowls and are on the way to #13(won 6 bowls), been to 5 sec title games(on the way to # 6), and has won 128 games(average 8 per year). thats not too bad, and Alabama will be better than that, competing for more bowls, sec and national titles for the forseeable future!
  23. STAR POWER
    1039. Posted by STAR POWER Fri Nov 13 12:14pm EST

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    Bill N--- thank you , thank you , thank you,...................you have just made my day!
    These two under-achieving teams are leading their respective conferences #1, uno, the top, so that means we have a lot of good things to look for , when they start playing to their potential. Again, thank you, it is great to get another perspective.

    I love America

    Roll Tide.......................................................just one at a time
  24. Bill N
    1038. Posted by Bill N Fri Nov 13 12:02pm EST

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    I love seeing that look on Saban's face when his team is losing; it's a kodak moment. Can't wait to see that look Dec 5th.
    Starpower-must be rough to be supporting 2 under-achieving teams, Alabama and Dallas. Maybe that will change this year; I doubt it though. Dallas has the Saints on their schedule.
  25. Bill N
    1037. Posted by Bill N Fri Nov 13 11:53am EST

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    casie c- I'm not trying to be derogatory, but that meaningless team (Utah) was undefeated last season and showed Alabama why they were undefeated. Statements like that do not make sense to people who support teams who are elated to be in bowl games anywhere. I have a lot of relatives in north Alabama, and it must have been really hard on you guys since '92. Everytime I talk to or see my relatives, I hear the same old rhetoric; 12 national championships, so many 10-win seasons,etc. I say what have you done lately. When your team represents the SEC in bowls, you should always try to show the dominance of the conference; not be disappointed about who you're playing. I don't buy that about last year's Sugar Bowl and not being inspired. Alabama just got dominated from the start to finish.
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