Moore leads No. Boise St. over Bowling Green 49-14

Steve - i am not at all resentful toward small programs...there's nothing to resent...I just dislike the attention those programs receive because they play patsies all year...they may, just may play one big game a year...how hard is it to play your best and catch a great team on low b/c they're playing a lowly program? great programs have tradition, great coaching, incredible players and loyal and wise fans. loyalty can only go so far with a crap program like boise or utah or other small time programs.

hmmm, what would the nation rather see, michigan playing anyone or boise/utah/any other small school...pretty easy answer to that...

small time programs breed small time minds.

okay since Bob r. admits he went to Michigan, lets look at their awesome record against
Non-BCS schools recently.

2007:
34-32 LOSS to Appalachian State (A division 1-AA program) in a home game? Impressive.
32-22 win versus Eastern Michigan (not exactly a blowout)

2008:
28-23 LOSS to Utah (Who also whipped Alabama in the Sugar Bowl)
16-6 win versus Miami of Ohio (another snoozer).
13-10 LOSS to Toledo in another home game? Even more Impressive.

I understand bob r's anger and resentment towards the smaller Non-BCS schools now.
Look what they've done to his precious Michigan Wolverine's football program.

oh and let's talk about money, according to the Street & Smith's SportsBusiness Journal, the top revenue producing schools are as follows:

1. University of Texas $72.95 million
2. University of Georgia $67.05 million
3. University of Florida $66.1 million
4. Ohio State University $65.16 million
5. Notre Dame University $59.77 million
6. Auburn University $59.67 millions
7. University of Michigan $57.46 million
8. Penn State University $53.76 million
9. University of Alabama $57.37 million
10. Louisiana State University $52.68 million

hmmm, don't see Boise, Utah or Texas Tech....must be a conspiracy against the mid majors...better have Congress investigate it.

i won't even get into the Heisman winners...can't recall one from Boise nor Utah nor Texas Tech...so yes, these schools deserve recognition because they produce lots of money and Heisman trophy winners...oh wait, these schools don't do that...hence, their oblivion and need for foolish fans like yourselves having to defend your alleged program.

poor poor people so delusional...you get so upset about ripping your school...i'm starting to understand the Napoleon complex very vividly..my views are rather simple....mid majors are just that...mid majors...they don't deserve to be on the big stage with the big boys...the Big Time programs have more money, tradition, prestige...need i go on. seriously, nationwide, who would want to see boise or Utah play their conference game versus an SEC (Florida v. LSU) matchup or Big Ten match up (Michign v. Ohio State)...not too many. Need i pull out the Neilsens to prove this point? don't need to, it's a rhetorical question.

I have serious issues with a mediocre team that goes undefeated in conference play and plays/beats patsies during non-conference play and b*tch and moan that they don't get to play in the national championship (eg Utah, hence my dislike of Utah). Again, these schools couldn't hold the jocks of players in the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, etc. ...

jeffree hope you're drinking the hard stuff because you're whacked. there's parity among the major schools and within their conferences, but certainly not the smaller schools...that adage that any team can be beat on any given saturday is true only when applied to the Big Time programs...look at the stats...since the 1960s, the national champions have come from a pool of less than 20 schools...and all except the fluke year of 1984 came from the Big Conferences...championships are what counts...don't give a hoot if a small school beats a Big Time program during the regular season...that's just a fluke.

notre dame is in its own category...12 national titles, the most of any program puts it in its own category. Army once was a powerhouse in the 30s-40s but haven't done squat. my squabble is with these new mid majors, eg Boise and Utah. i have no problems with programs that have some sort of tradition.

fyi - i went to michigan for undergrad and northwestern for grad school, although i have nothing against the wildcats, i'm a wolverine. also, far from 40, jeffree, actually 10 years younger. nice try though, better stop drinking the zimas and start drinking the real stuff.

I think that bob r, sleeps with a picture of roy kramer by his bedside. It's the only conclusion I can come up with. Nothing makes any sense. Imagine that just like the BCS doesn't make sense. I see a pattern here

Shall I continue? And those are just WAC teams against he *Elite Conference* members I've listed.

I've been drinking, don't let me get started on the MWC, MAC, Conference USA, and others against the *elitists* now. HAHAHA!

Have a nice day, pal!! Mike Leach says Hi via twitter.

Hey, Bobby r, who are you a fan of anyways? I bet Texas Tech has a winning record against them, lol.

Ppl, this is a strange man with a STRANGE obsession with mid majors or non traditional power .schools. He's even trolled the Utah/Louisville blog. Poor fella!!!

You are a fool if you don't think there is no parity in NCAA football. Crawl out from the cave you've been stuck under since the 90s, I assume? What , you think the 4 Horsemen still reside in South Bend, IN? How about the Tom Osbourne led 'Huskers? Soryy, buddy, it may grieve you, but times have changed. The gap is a lot closer than you would like to think.

Still talking about the "have nots" never ever will catch up? I picture Bobby being over 40 yrs, form the South, maybe a SEC team fan stuck in mediocrity (South Carolina, Kentucky or whoever), while everyone else (mid major powers, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Oregon, Virginia Tech, and other non "traditions") pass them up , feels left behind or maybe a racist in the past? Someone that doesn't like CHANGE,? you know, one of those guys that freaked out when all of a sudden in the new century, there has been an abundance of African America QBs in the NFL "oh, they could/should never play that position in a higher level of competition". lol
OK, bubba, we gotcha!! You continue to be a babblin buffoon.

WHy don't you also list the # of MNC that DUKE, Vanderbilt, USF, Baylor, West Virginia, Texas Tech ( I know, I'm sorry I have to include my own team there), Washington State, Louisville, UCONN, Iowa State, Iowa, Kansas State, and a whole bunch more BCS/BCS conference schools have. Answer: 0.
Albeit, some of them are new to D-IA as well, only difference is own you BCS blind eyes, they are superior based on BCS affiliation.

At least you were opened up enough to include Army(so called non BCS program) on the list, but you get the point.

Some interesting facts: WAC

Alabama lost to La Tech the last 2 times since 1997. (although La Tech was Independent at the time)
Alabama is 2-1 vs Hawaii this decade, one of those victories was a VERY close game.
Bama lost to UCF, Northern Illinois this decade.

From the MWC : Bottom feeder scrub Wyoming beat Ole Miss twice, UCLA, Virginia, and Tennessee the past 6 years. But let's not talk about the MWC. everyone knows that they are good. and I'm just starting off with the bottom MWC. If I work my way up to the top of the MWC(TCU, BYU, UTAh, Colorado State, Air Force). lol That would really end the argument.

Arizona is 0-2 against Fresno State.
Cal is 0-2 against Fresno State
Cincy is 1-1 against Hawaii including a come from behind win last season.
Colorado is 1-1 this decade against Fresno state, Colorado won a sqeaker in 1998.
UConn lost to UTAH frickin STate (poor WAC program) a few years ago.
Duke has no history against the WAC or MWC teams....good thing, I would have killed you there. lol
San Diego State (back then a WAC team) beat Florida State twice and is 2-0 against the Seminoles. Well, everyone beat the Seminoles back then.
Florida State, Miami, and Virginia Tech were considered mid majors in those times and nobody thought they would ever be a power, well, look what happen since. DOHHH!!!!

Georgia Tech is 0-2 against Fresno State this decade and lifetime....huh?!?!!?
Illinois is 1-1 this decade against San Jose State this decade.....WHAT??!?! Also lost to Hawaii a decade ago.
Indiana lost to Utah twice this decade...wait they are in the MWC...nevermind.

Kansas State was 1-1 against Utah Frickin State in the 90s. Oh, but play Kansas state against them now you say.............Okay 0-2 this decade against Fresno State, lost to Marshall(Conference USA) this decade...lost a thriller a few weeks ago to Louisiana Lafayette!!!! Somewhere in the middle of all this KSU has won a BXII title and played a few other BXII title games the past decade.

Can't find anything on Maryland (won a few MNC in the good ole days) but they did lose to Middle tennessee state...2 YEARS in a row!!!! Like Oregon lost to Boise State 2 YEARS in a ROW!!!!!!! I guess they were "Lucky" like Middle Tenn State.

Michigan State 0-1 against La Tech this decade.
Michigan State 1-1 against Hawaii this decade.

Meeeneesotta 0-1 Hawaii, lost in the late 90s.
Minnesota 1-1 against San Diego State in the 90s. Early 90s, You know before the scholarship limitations took place.

Mississippi State lost the last 2 meetings against La Tech 2008 and 1996.
NC State owns a beautiful 0-2 record against Wyoming.
Northwestern is 1-1 against Nevada and 1-1 against Hawaii this decade.

Notre Dame Crushed Nevada this season, crushed Hawaii last season in a bowl game. The Irish played Hawaii twice in the 90s and came out shaking, squeezing out both game in the last seconds.

Oklahoma? Well, Boise State.
Oklahoma lost to both Tulsa, TCU, and San Diego State in the late 90s. When they were ALL WAC teams. NNNOOO, say it aint so.
TCU beat them again a few years later, this time they were a MWC team.

Oklahoma State is 1-1 against La Tech this decade. ....huh, really?

Oregon lost the last 3 meeting to Hawaii in the 90s.
Oregon 0-2 against Boise State.....your favorite.

Oregon State is 2-2 this decade against Boise State.
Oregon State is 3-5 against Fresno State since the 90s, 1-2 this decade.

Pittsburgh 0-1 against Hawaii. 1-3 their last 3 meeting to MWC teams (BYU, TCU and Utah). 0-2 against Air force kicks and giggles even though that was back in the 70s.

Purdue is 0-1 against Hawaii this decade.
Rutgers is 0-1 against Fresno State this decade.

USF is 1-3 lifetime against the MWC (San Diego State, TCu, Utah) all this decade
.
Southern Cal is very successful against current WAC teams, only 1 loss...to Fresno State in the 90s. but lost a few times to MWC teams recently.

Stanford lost to San Jose State 4 times the past 10 years.

Syracuse doesn't have much of a history with the WAC, but played a MWC team as recent as 2006 (6 point win over Wyoming)...before that 2002.........blown out by BYU.

UCLA lost the last 2 meeting to Fresno State...this decade.

Too bad Vanderbilt doesn't play WAC teams...would have really killed you there. However, they did play TCU 4 times (1995,1997,1998,2003) ....1-3 against against TCU....lone victory in 1997.

Virginia 0-1 against Fresno State this decade.

Wake forest has not played a WAC team , but played MWC teams...........lost to Air Force and TCU the past 10 years. 0-2 record.

Washington 1-1 against Fresno State this decade, 1-2 lifetime against Hawaii(0-1 this decade), and 0-1 against lovely Nevada...not UNLV , but Nevada this decade.

Washington State AKA Wazzu!!!! 0-2 this decade against powerhouse Hawaii ....2-3 lifetime for those who are counting..........lost back to back games against Idaho...not Boise State....but Idaho in the late 90s. before staring a winning streak against them.

Wisconsin has been shizniting bricks against Fresno State only lost to them once, but all 4 meetings the past 10 years have been pretty, pretty close.

Check your facts, Bubba , before you blurt out crap.

Keep trolling fella, we know you love the attention. We just don't feel like playing today. Go home and take your ball with you. We'll let you know when it's time to play. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Good Bye, strange obsession, babblin buffoon.

Oh yea, Mike Leach says Hi. He'll send ya a twitter soon. Wreck 'em!!

Wow bob r were do you get all of your insight and vast knowledge. I realize there is nothing I can say or do to change your mind. Some people in this world are so far beyond narrow mindedness. I'm not here to change your mind either. That would be like teaching a new born to piss in the toilet. I would like to know were your hatred for any team beyond the blessed BCS comes from. What team are you rooting for? Where did you graduate from? Hey, myself along with all the BSU fans would love to see our team move out of this conference. I know when they entered Div I 10 yrs ago, they knew they were starting near the bottom. I believe they have shown they are ready to move up. So lets get them out of this crap conference and move them on up. Let see how they do in a bigger and better conference. That way we can get allotted the same amount of scholarships that the majors do. It makes a difference when you can go out and buy a football team with full rides vs. having 98% of its student athletes paying for there own way. I say take all the scholarships away. We know that will never happen. When know that the completely flawed BCS system is not going anyway anytime soon. So when the BCS conferences open up there stadiums to the inferior schools, well never know. And by the way, BSU has had a little bit of success in having players go pro. 12 players in the last 6 years. One being Ryan Claddy, who went first round, But don't tell me, they all got lucky. And same with our coach, he got lucky when he won the The Paul 'Bear' Bryant Award. Isn't that award meant for a real coach. I am a fan of BSU. Both my wife and I earned our degrees from this school. We are both very proud of our school and its success. I don't know why you have a hatred for any non BCS school. I don't know why you feel the need to trash it and its teams and fans. But it is your right.

oh...and the flip side to this discussion is that if Boise was in a real conference, eg, Big Ten, they'd finish no better than 10th or 11th (even bad teams get lucky once a year...hence boise beating oklahoma)...if they were in the SEC, boise probably wouldn't win a conference game...they don't have the athletes, coaching or program to compete with the Big Boys consistently. Once a year...maybe, twice, probabaly not...three times against a major...absolutely no way...IMPOSSIBLE.

let me clarify...any last place or close to last place team in any of the majors would win, rather easily, the crap conference that Boise is in. I don't put any credence in your coaches argument because, once again, it goes to schedule. That, in and of itself, is a huge argument. Again you downplay it because Boise doesn't play anyone. A highly ranked high school team can go into boise's conference and go undefeated...it doesn't take much. Therefore, when the coaches vote, of course they'll have to move up a team, like boise, that may have 1 or no lossses, but played patsies. who you play makes the team who they are...crap schedule like boise = crap team like boise. just face it, boise never has been nor will be a major player in college football.

can't wait til they lose this season and then your school will go back into oblivion where it belongs.

better off rooting for a real team...hmmmm out west you've got USC, Cal was good until last week...you're still in school, you'll learn the follies of your ways.

Face it, Boise is a mid major on a decent streak and will always be a mid major.

Thank you bob r for proving my point, YOUR words are "Put a Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or an SEC school in that conference and they, too, would be guaranteed 10-11 win seasons and would produce the same result that this mediocre program has produced." I will take that is we are equal. And thank you for avoiding the fact that the Coaches all seem to think Boise state is a #5 team. They (coaches) have no @#$% clue on what they are doing. Nor did I ever say that there were scared to play, I said they are rejecting to play. Whether they are scared or not I have no clue. But look at USC, they played San Jose State and killed them. They are in this mediocre confrence, but they refuse to play Boise state. WHY !!! Why play a team in a @#$% conference , that hasn't won more then 10 games in what 15yrs, Your right its about money, Boise state open up against Virginia Tech next season, And will Pay $1.5 million for us to come play. So when you can offer up something better then a weak schedule as the reason and its a controlled reason, a reason controlled by BCS confrences, then lets talk. The only way any of us college football fans and fans of our teams are going to see who is the best, Then change the schedules, get rid of this WEAK SCHEDULE bull@#$% cuz its all you got to use. Any team can be beat,

Fah Fah...you're absolutely right, you're IQ has fallen...well below zero. Your whole argument ignores the fact that Boise is a crap school playing in a mediocre conference. Most of their games are against inferior opponents, hence, their virtually certainty of having 7-8 wins. Add in the patsies they play and all of a sudden, Boise has 10-11 wins.. Put a Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or an SEC school in that conference and they, too, would be guaranteed 10-11 win seasons and would produce the same result that this mediocre program has produced. As far as the BCS teams being scared of Boise, you're so full of it...it's all about money so in determining a non-coference schedule, the Big Time schools will naturally play whatever match up garners more money. Besides, strength of schedule has significant weighting in the BCS determination so the days of the Big Time schools scheduling patsies like Boise does, are over.

I hardly think that any Big Time school would be afraid of a crap school that plays on a crap field with their crap fans.

Must be something in the spuds you're eating, Fah Fah.

Wow after reading all of these postings I feel like I have lost IQ points. You have to be kidding me with all of this crap about how teams are inferior because of the conference or lack of history and tradition. Give me a break. Boise state has been in Division I football for 10yrs, count them on all of your fingers. The fact that since entering Division I football in 1999 (hence the 10 yrs), they have been ranked in every year since 2002. That right there should be and embarrassment to all the REAL schools and their TRADITIONS. That some crap team from spud land with their gay field can keep on being ranked. What really gets me is when you look at the coaches polls and they rank boise state at #5 I think that says something. If i were a coach from a BCS confrence and I ranked them at #5 and i had to play them. You better believe that I would prep my team to be playing a #5 ranked team. For all those that believe that Boise state is inferior and is only were they are because of their weak schedule, Please do us a favor and call The guys that plan the schedule and ask them how many GODLY BCS Conference teams reject offers to play against Boise State, either home or away. When you find out how many chicken @#$% teams are out there, then please post back and give us a count. So until then, this crap teams and its crap fans with its crap traditions well continue to win on its gay field and at the end of each year, that same crap team will continue to take 15 million dollars away for the BCS.

Jeffree you're an idiot for several reasons: first, you're a texas tech fan and lemme guess you love your moronic coach; second, i cut my list randomly to illustrate moron that almost all the national championships have gone to major schools and major programs...you're a fool if you believe that there's parity in college football...the majors have, are and will continue to dominate and Boise, Utah and other paltry schools like that will never, ever win a national championship, unless they create one specifically for the mid-majors.

as far as superiority, i'm only stating the facts...no mid-major deserves or will win a national championship because they have inferior talent, programs, conferences and fans.

Hey Bob r, where's TCU's 2 NC, SMU 1 NC, BYU 1 NC, and Princetons handful of NC on that list you babbling idiot? Afraid to list the mid-majors/ lesser div programs?

BTW, Boise St became D-IA in the late 1990s and won a few D-IAA titles prior. I'm no fan of Boise St, either. Texas Tech fan actually, but I respect other good football programs.

Afraid the talent level is starting even out in the landscape of college football and the "have nots" are catching up?

GTFO here with your "superiority" complex.

Proof is in the pudding you foolish Boise State fans. Here the teams with the most national championships since 1900, conspicuously absent, your crap team Boise State...stats don't lie people.

Notre Dame 12
Alabama 11
USC 10
Michigan 7
Oklahoma 7
Minnesota 6
Pittsburgh 6
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Ohio State 5
Army 4
Georgia Tech 4
Illinois 4
Tennessee 4
Texas 4
California 3
Florida 3
LSU 3
Michigan St 3
FSU 2
Georgia 2
Maryland 2
Penn State 2
Texas A&M 2

when will boise state fans realize their team is crap and their players are crap...who would want to play in Idaho and who would want to play in a mid-major conference...Amanda... i do know what it takes to play in a divistion I program, unlike you, I go to a real divistion I program in the Big Ten, one with tradition, history and real players...you know the ones that actually win something called the Heisman....hmmmm when was the last time a Boise State player won the Heisman...oh wait, never...oh when was the last time Boise won a national championship...oh wait, never. Why? Because their crap and their players are less than stellar athletes...how many pro players from Boise are there? I'm betting none to one or two. So please keep your blind faith to yourselves and start cheering on a real team, from a real program, from a real state...I realize you losers have nothing but potatoes and a gay looking field, but that's your sicknesses you have to deal with...my condolences to all you idiots that support a team that will never, ever receive national recognition.

Boise State would CRUSH Ohio State!! the only reasons the broncos have Tulsa, Bowling Green and the other weak nonconference teams on their schedule is b/c the strong BCS schools refuse to play Boise during the regular season!!

I AGREE 100% THOSE BIG TIME TEAMS DO NOT WANT TO SCHEDULE BOISE BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT A HOME AND HOME CUZ THEY ARE AFRAID OF GOING INTO THE BLUE AND BEING EMBARRASED LIKE SO CALLED BIG TIME OREGON DID. SO DEAL WITH IT YOU SO CALLED BIG TIME PROGRAM FANS YOUR ALL THREATEND BY WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO YOUR PROGRAM IN A GAME KEEP HIDING BEHIND THAT MONIKER THAT BOISE WOULDNT MATCH UP WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY WOULD.

Boise State would CRUSH Ohio State!! the only reasons the broncos have Tulsa, Bowling Green and the other weak nonconference teams on their schedule is b/c the strong BCS schools refuse to play Boise during the regular season!!

I AGREE 100% THOSE BIG TIME TEAMS DO NOT WANT TO SCHEDULE BOISE BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT A HOME AND HOME CUZ THEY ARE AFRAID OF GOING INTO THE BLUE AND BEING EMBARRASED LIKE SO CALLED BIG TIME OREGON DID. SO DEAL WITH IT YOU SO CALLED BIG TIME PROGRAM FANS YOUR ALL THREATEND BY WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO YOUR PROGRAM IN A GAME KEEP HIDING BEHIND THAT MONIKER THAT BOISE WOULDNT MATCH UP WITH THEM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY WOULD.

BOISE STATE is twice the team cal florida state an oklahoma are.