(5) Ohio State (1-1) at Toledo (1-1)

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Ohio State came close, but a sixth straight defeat against a Top 5 team last weekend dealt a critical early blow to its national championship hopes.

Its status as the preeminent program in its own state, though, has never been in doubt.

The 11th-ranked Buckeyes look to bounce back from a heartbreaking loss to Southern California on Saturday afternoon in Cleveland, where high-scoring Toledo would love to hand Ohio State its first loss to an intrastate rival in 88 years.

Jim Tressel built a reputation for winning big games during his first six seasons in Columbus, going 4-2 against Top 5 opponents and knocking off top-ranked Miami in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl to give the program its first national championship in 32 years.

The Buckeyes (1-1) haven’t had much luck against the nation’s elite since, beginning with a 41-14 loss to then-No. 2 Florida in the 2007 BCS championship game. They dropped their next four games against top-five teams heading into Saturday night’s home showdown with No. 3 USC.

Despite an early Terrelle Pryor interception that led to a Trojans touchdown, Ohio State dominated for the next three and a half quarters. But clinging to a five-point lead in the fourth, the Buckeyes let USC go 86 yards in 14 plays for the go-ahead score in a devastating 18-15 loss.

“We should have beat ‘em. Point blank, we should have beat them,” said Pryor, who completed 11 of 25 passes for 177 yards. “We should have beat them by two or three touchdowns, easy, man. The ball just fell the wrong way.”

Despite Pryor’s struggles and a running game that gained 2.9 yards per carry, the Buckeyes got a mostly outstanding effort from their defense. A week after giving up 342 yards to unranked Navy, Ohio State held the high-powered Trojans to 231 yards until the final drive.

“We can look back and say that we’re not so bad,” linebacker Brian Rolle said. “You hear a lot of talk about ‘Ohio State this’ and ‘They don’t stand a chance.’ But as you can see on the scoreboard, we weren’t too far behind.”

The Buckeyes haven’t been behind often when they’ve faced teams from Ohio, winning 29 straight since a 7-6 loss to Oberlin College in 1921.

Ohio State is 25-1 against teams from the Mid-American Conference, but Tressel’s team may have a few reasons to worry. Ohio, another MAC member, led the Buckeyes 7-6 at halftime on Sept. 6, 2008 - their most recent game against another Ohio school - before Ohio State rallied for an unconvincing 26-14 win.

Toledo (1-1) is some 20 miles closer to Cleveland than is Columbus, and is technically the home team for Saturday’s game. That, however, won’t keep Cleveland Browns Stadium from being a pro-Ohio State crowd in the Buckeyes’ first game along the shores of Lake Erie since a 34-3 win over Northwestern in 1991.

Ohio State’s concern should be a Rockets’ offense that’s scored 85 points in its first two games behind Aaron Opelt. The senior quarterback is third in the nation with 742 passing yards and has thrown seven touchdowns passes. Four of those came last Friday against Colorado in a 54-38 win.

“I think right now Aaron is running the offense very well,” first-year Toledo coach Tim Beckman said of Opelt, who is the nation’s individual leader in total offense (437.0 yards per game). “Aaron had a tremendous preseason and has had a tremendous first three weeks of the regular season. He is a good, good football player. He’s bought into the system and is a good leader.”

The Rockets are 5-6 in their last 11 games against the Big Ten, and Opelt was 33 for 50 for 257 yards on Oct. 11 in Ann Arbor as Toledo topped Michigan 13-10.

The Rockets’ defense held the Wolverines to 290 yards that day, and will likely need a similar performance to compete with Ohio State. Toledo is 110th in the nation in total defense, allowing an average of 493.0 yards, and is tied for 115th in scoring defense at 45.0 points per game.

Ohio State won the only other meeting in the series, 49-0, in Columbus in 1998.

Updated Sep 15, 10:43 pm EDT
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    Dana Sun Sep 20, 2009 03:51 pm PDT Report Abuse
    No, I worked in a field hospital and on the aircraft that carried wounded civilians and combatants. I now work for a field air ambulance service in Northern California. We receive the same medical training as a Delta. We do not however enter combat. The Deltas were in our class in medic school. That is all I meant and you took it way out of context. BTW, I am not the chick that, "Always has to have the last word."
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    Patrick Sun Sep 20, 2009 03:32 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Tony,

    I assume you are an alum, since you said "We," too many buckeye fans who dropped out of school at 16 and have an "O" flag outside the single wide say "We" all the time.

    Er, Miami was not in the ACC at the time of the Fiesta Bowl...As for "Beat," well, if you call playing a guy ten times as in-eligible as Reggie Bush and paying off Ref Terry Porter to make a non-existent pass interference call 12 seconds after the OSU receiver bobbled the ball, well you are in the vast minority...On tape, Dan Fouts kept saying BAD CALL, BAD CALL.

    Unlike monolithic Ohio, Florida has many good teams, so don't assume we root for all of them. I am not a Gator fan, but since you brought it up, yes after weeks of hearing how OSU was going to win, bucknuts booking all the rooms and taking all the tickets since Florida only got in late and resting up all their players...OSU got destroyed. Then the excuse was they had too long a lay-off (brought back again after LSU throttled them). Florida is playing easy schools...Just like OSU playing perennial powers Navy, Toledo, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota and New Mexico State.

    Why does OSU drop in the AP after beating Toledo? OSU is a joke in the rest of the country...Get outside of your state and realize the football center of the universe is not Ohio. Texas, Florida, or California maybe, but Ohio? Heck, OSU is the second best team in the state after Cincy.
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    Kerry H Sun Sep 20, 2009 02:37 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Dana, you stated "assault anyone, carry a illegal firearm or commit violent crimes. I do not believe Pete Carroll would permit that on his team. There is accountability at USC" NO NO NO!! Justice arrested for a felony assualt with a deadly weapon. Herschel Dennis sexual assual!! Erick Wright sexual assualt!! Rucker sexual assualt in 2002 and spousal battery in 2005!! Maualuga arrested for battery and he stated they own the police he will not got in trouble. Carroll did nothing to him. Mark Sanchez arrested for sexual assualt!! Byrd was arrested for assualt. Carroll lets it go just like others! If you remeber correctly when Troy Smith got in trouble he was suspended for the Bowl game plus 3 games the next year. If they are a star at USC look the other way. OSU you get benched or suspended. But it is sad that so MANY colleges look the other way when it comes to crimes and they get the courts to look the other way.
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    Kerry H Sun Sep 20, 2009 02:31 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Dana, you stated "assault anyone, carry a illegal firearm or commit violent crimes. I do not believe Pete Carroll would permit that on his team. There is accountability at USC" NO NO NO!! Justice arrested for a felony assualt with a deadly weapon. Herschel Dennis sexual assual!! Erick Wright sexual assualt!! Rucker sexual assualt in 2002 and spousal battery in 2005!! Maualuga arrested for battery and he stated they own the police he will not got in trouble. Carroll did nothing to him. Mark Sanchez arrested for sexual assualt!! Byrd was arrested for assualt. Carroll lets it go just like others! If you remeber correctly when Troy Smith got in trouble he was suspended for the Bowl game plus 3 games the next year. If they are a star at USC look the other way. OSU you get benched or suspended. But it is sad that so MANY colleges look the other way when it comes to crimes and they get the courts to look the other way.
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    Kerry H Sun Sep 20, 2009 02:27 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Dana, you stated "assault anyone, carry a illegal firearm or commit violent crimes. I do not believe Pete Carroll would permit that on his team. There is accountability at USC" NO NO NO!! Justice arrested for a felony assualt with a deadly weapon. Herschel Dennis sexual assual!! Erick Wright sexual assualt!! Rucker sexual assualt in 2002 and spousal battery in 2005!! Maualuga arrested for battery and he stated they own the police he will not got in trouble. Carroll did nothing to him. Mark Sanchez arrested for sexual assualt!! Byrd was arrested for assualt. Carroll lets it go just like others! If you remeber correctly when Troy Smith got in trouble he was suspended for the Bowl game plus 3 games the next year. If they are a star at USC look the other way. OSU you get benched or suspended. But it is sad that so MANY colleges look the other way when it comes to crimes and they get the courts to look the other way.
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    Kerry H Sun Sep 20, 2009 02:26 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Dana, you stated "assault anyone, carry a illegal firearm or commit violent crimes. I do not believe Pete Carroll would permit that on his team. There is accountability at USC" NO NO NO!! Justice arrested for a felony assualt with a deadly weapon. Herschel Dennis sexual assual!! Erick Wright sexual assualt!! Rucker sexual assualt in 2002 and spousal battery in 2005!! Maualuga arrested for battery and he stated they own the police he will not got in trouble. Carroll did nothing to him. Mark Sanchez arrested for sexual assualt!! Byrd was arrested for assualt. Carroll lets it go just like others! If you remeber correctly when Troy Smith got in trouble he was suspended for the Bowl game plus 3 games the next year. If they are a star at USC look the other way. OSU you get benched or suspended. But it is sad that so MANY colleges look the other way when it comes to crimes and they get the courts to look the other way.
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    tonywf Sun Sep 20, 2009 01:33 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Yeah, Patrick, we're about as impressed as Florida beating a couple of high school teams before barely beating Tennessee, or the manner in which that powerhouse ACC hasn't won anything since, well, since before we beat Miami. Or USC losing to a team that didn't win a game last year (pulling another Stanford, like they do every year, and then having one of their cronies like Mark May taking to the air waves and whining about how everyone doesn't respect the Pac-10). And hey, Dana, speaking of criminality, all my best to Bowden and his backers down in Florida State. They only have about four times as many NCAA infractions in the last decade as the Big 10 has (as an entire conference), and is in the act of losing several of his victories in the record books.
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    A Yahoo! User Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:11 pm PDT Report Abuse
    How in the hell can you drop from 11 to 13 in the AP poll, after you stomp your opponent 38 to 0.
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    Christopher Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:56 am PDT Report Abuse
    @Dana:

    I realize that women are allowed to work in field hospitals. Got it. But you claimed that you were "a 18 Delta on the ground". Impossible. Working in a field hospital is one thing, but saying that you were an 18D during the Gulf War is a load of BS. Don't try to make yourself sound all hardcore. I've been to Iraq twice and seen what women do there. They do an amazing job in the aid station/hospital environment.

    But none of them claim to be 18D's that are going outside the wire, doing what an 18D would do. I suggest you watch how you word things next time, as you sound like a damn fool and have a lot of my Army buddies (including me) laughing our butts off at your asinine statement. Don't come on here puffing your chest unless you can clarify things right the first time, instead of trying to make yourself sound like a bad azz.

    Oh yeah, one more thing....Go Bucks! A loss to USC or no loss this season, at least we don't get our butts handed to us every year by an unranked nobody.
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    Dana Sun Sep 20, 2009 09:05 am PDT Report Abuse
    USC definetly favored Reggie Bush. Reggie however did not assault anyone, carry a illegal firearm or commit violent crimes. I do not believe Pete Carroll would permit that on his team. There is accountability at USC.
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    Dana Sun Sep 20, 2009 09:02 am PDT Report Abuse
    Women are permitted to work in field hospitals and mobile clinics wise guy.
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    Patrick Sun Sep 20, 2009 08:49 am PDT Report Abuse
    How much do Big Ten schools pay their MAC enablers? Obviously, some checks don't clear (NIU/Purdue, or is this to throw off suspicion?) but in most every case, the MAC school will seemingly lose the will to win in the 4th Qtr. Toledo's "sacrifice" takes the cake, though:

    - Give up a home game so you have to go down the road where your opponent's fans are 85% of the crowd. Gee, your student - athletes now only have 5 games they don't have to get on a bus or plane to go and get booed, along with planning their schedules w/profs, etc. Nice support.

    - Ooh, you did schedule a BCS opponent the week before at home...and you won! Look at realistically. In most years, Colorado would not have been so spent and would have throttled Toledo. Still, Colorado had the athletes to pound you for four quarters. Do you really think after a game like that your team is ready to go down the road and take on another BCS team in a hostile stadium (no matter how many Toledo banners you put up). Do you care about your student-athletes?

    - What do you do with that OSU payday? Buy a new boat for the lake using your increased salary? Again, is it worth it to your student-athletes?

    - Coach "Knees" Beckman, glad you were there for your mentor "The Vest." Rich Rod cried when someone stated that he didn't care about his players...what are you going to do after serving them up on a silver platter? You said "OSU doesn't normally do such things" in describing the arrangement. Gee, you expect people to believe that you got one over on OSU with the sweetheart deal to your buddy Jim? Yeah, Tressel promised you the world and you played the good boy.. Just remember, an OSU QB who pronounced his name the same way played that game too...look where it got him.

    Navy got beat by Pitt, USC ("Moral Victory") by Washington...The Buckeyes are hanging their hats on a home win against a "delivered" Toledo? Wow, I'm impressed!
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    GeorgeB Sun Sep 20, 2009 05:53 am PDT Report Abuse
    Great Victory over Toledo, Buckeyes!! Hope you do as well next week against--who is it again?? Vermont Barber College??
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    Speedy Sun Sep 20, 2009 02:57 am PDT Report Abuse
    Dana - You point fingers at OSU and their violations. Do you not think that other universities are as guilty? College football is a big business to these universities these days with a BSC bid bringing in millions of dollars. If you think that USC did not give benefits to Reggie Bush and family then you're nuts. I will not say OSU has been innocent (hell I think they hung Clarret out to dry) but I believe every other major university is just as guilty.
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    Kerry H Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:34 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Bucksrul34--- Toledo averages giving up 45 actually but they average scoring 34.5 and we kept them scoring at all. Yes, we are not the greatest and we will not be in the National Hunt. I think you will see the team continue to grow. Next week against Illinois, I think will be a thorn in our side!! But I will always cheer for the Buckeyes no matter how bad they are and jump on another bandwagon!! That is a true fan!!
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    Kerry H Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:14 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I am not trying to say OSU is the best team in the NCAA. All I am saying is that, USC sucks!! OSU lost to them but pushed them all over the field. They are both good teams but not great. I cannot believe what Dana says anymore but who cares she is just like USC full of bull and more thugs!! Yeah, I am a veteran, too. I was in Operation Desert Storm as a Marine and I was stationed in Kuwait when I was in the Air Force as a Satcom/Wideband Tech. I was over there when OSU won the National Championship. Who cares? I support OSU and always will. They have proven to be a class act and they report violations as they know they happen. Schillicter was a long time ago BTW!! Do we need to mention O.J. USC sweeps everything under the rug!! I believe the F.B.I has been to USC 3 times since Carroll. DANG!! 1 to 3 USC wins again!!
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    Christopher Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:09 pm PDT Report Abuse
    @Dana:

    Again, with all the constant Buckeye bashing you are dishing out, can you set a minute aside to please explain to me how you were an 18D when the U.S. Army doesn't allow women to go to SFAS or even to be attached to SF unit's when they deployed and/or out on patrol during war? Last time I checked, females are not allowed to fight on the front-lines. I'll be waiting for your explanantion, oh wise one...
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    Kerry H Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:04 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Well 20 is not too bad compared to other schools. She mentioned rules violations too. Check USC since Carroll has been there since he has been there 28 violations or arrests and 2 this year. Griffen being one of them. The one she was talking about robbery he was a former player and he was the one that lied. He is in jail because of it. THUG U looks to the West or maybe South, Florida has had 24 arrests in the last 4 years and Georgia 30. Dang 20 in 9 years NOT BAD. Last time OSU won on National TV Nov. 22, 2008 42-7. Last bowl game won Notre Dame 34-20. OSU is actually 18-22 in bowl games get your facts straight!!! OSU since Tressel against ranked opponents 22-10 against unranked 40-4. USC cheats and everyone knows it like Bush for just one.
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    Dana D Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:44 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I have to agree here with Dana in one way. Becauce you name is Dana doesnt make you a girl. Im a Dana who is a guy. Other than that ....I disagree with everything else. Although your stats Im sure are correct as far as crimes or acts by the Buckeye players have committed, they are one sided. The Buckeys lead the Big 10 in Academic All-Americans and have almost every year Tressel has been there. You being a former Green Beret, Im sure understand guys do things like that, they play a violent game and get in trouble. Im serving my 22nd year in our fine Army and totally understand the lifestyle. You cant compare the two but, you just dont leave things on the field. Espically young men who are the kings of campus. So 20 blotter reports in a 4-5 year span. Not to bad. You have to wiegh the bad with the good. The Buckeyes may have some off the field problems, but there are pleanty of good things that go on there too. Again, you living the Army life before have to know you never show up with a problem with out a solution and information to show both sides.
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    Christopher Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:36 pm PDT Report Abuse
    @Dana:

    If you are in fact a female and you were in the military at one point, why would you say that you were an 18D? Do you know what that is? That is SF (Special Forces) in the U.S. Army. Only MALES are allowed to be 18D's, along with Infantry and Rangers as well. If you are a male, then I apologize. But don't come on here and flex your chest like you were a bad azz 18 Series in the Gulf War if you are in fact of the female gender. I am in the Army right now. You look like a damn fool to us knowledable military folk...
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    bucksrul34 Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:14 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Onc e again people hate us and i know why . our fans say our d is great but its not. we beat a horrible navy team. an usc team with no o and a toledo team that gives up 44 a game. we do not know if our d is good or not.
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    Dana Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:01 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Todd, you're just a mean little boy. BTW, most of my college education ( I'm a paramedic ) was paid for by the fact that I am a veteran of Operation Desert Storm. I was a 18 Delta on the ground. Girls are not stupid. Go away.
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    bucksrul34 Sat Sep 19, 2009 09:55 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Osu fans i told you navy was terrible so quit making excuses for our performance against them.
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    bucksrul34 Sat Sep 19, 2009 09:52 pm PDT Report Abuse
    We got pryor but would rather have harris.
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    bucksrul34 Sat Sep 19, 2009 09:50 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I wish we had miami off coordinator. they look awesome and with fsu drilling byu how good is miami ? they are all freshamen and sophs.

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