Statement from FSU following 11/15 NCAA hearing

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Florida State University Statement Following Nov. 15 Hearing Before the NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee

Today, Attorney William (Bill) E. Williams presented Florida State University’s appeal before the NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee in Indianapolis.

Florida State University will not comment at this time, except to restate what has already been said several times publicly. That is, we worked every step of the way with the NCAA staff on this case, and we had an understanding that if we did everything as they said, all player eligibility matters would be resolved. The documentation of that understanding can be seen at a glance in the attached “Chain Reaction of Unprecedented Steps in Florida State’s NCAA Case.”

The fact of the matter is that there was an across-the-board agreement between the NCAA and Florida State on student-athlete eligibility, and student-athletes gave up their academic due process rights in accepting the plan.

We complied fully with this plan. We never played any ineligible players.

Updated Nov 15, 11:17 am EST
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  1. just me
    5. Posted by just me Sun Nov 15 11:11pm EST

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    My real problem with this is if "Wins" re negated then what is happening is they are being turned into losses--this is plain idiotic lets make this argument less personal:

    School "A" has won a game against school "B"

    now that win is being negated and by doing so you are saying that school "B" is in actuality the winner

    This simply does not make sense because you are rewarding a school that doesn't deserve rewarding.

    The only way I can even somewhat justify negating wins would be if you can prove that the school knew about the infraction and tried to cover it up.

    Punish the athletes not the institution!
  2. TuCkFeBoW
    4. Posted by TuCkFeBoW Sun Nov 15 8:52pm EST

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    I cannot believe this is still going on...every F'ing school in the nation has class cheating going on,good god look at Corrine Brown from uf!!! How she got a masters degree is beyond me.
  3. <i>cstubby45</i>
    3. Posted by cstubby45 Sun Nov 15 8:07pm EST

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    Philerrup- fair question. I could have said 'alleged cheaters' but thats not me. If none of the athletes played illegally, there would be no appeals, as there were today.

    Unfortunately, this issue will linger as long as the FSU President continues to fight for Bowden. Otherwise this issue becomes moot and gone in a couple of years. As long as the school protects those athletes names, no one will ever know.

    I could have called these athletes something besides cheaters but lets get real. They knew what they were doing was wrong, and they knew they were getting college credit for classes they didn't do work in. I call that cheating.
  4. philerrup
    2. Posted by philerrup Sun Nov 15 7:06pm EST

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    cstubby---if any of the -(as u call them cheaters)didn't play,then no rules were broken. i don't know---DO YOU?!
  5. <i>cstubby45</i>
    1. Posted by cstubby45 Sun Nov 15 5:04pm EST

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    Same ole BS. So how many fans out there actually understand what this lawyer is saying? Is he saying all ~75 athletes gave up their academic rights in allowing FSU to negotiate with the NCAA?
    Not even sure they could 'read' the agreement.

    "The fact of the matter is that there was an across-the-board agreement between the NCAA and Florida State on student-athlete eligibility, and student-athletes gave up their academic due process rights in accepting the plan."

    This is the problem. FSU, even after finding out about the cheating, maintains that they shouldn't be penalized by forfeiting games that cheaters played in. There is an NCAA rule that states a school must forfeit these games. Instead FSU lawyers only want to adhere to rules 1-9 and not 10-12. Can you plea bargain with players?

    If an entire team cheated academically and were caught, should their wins count? Probably NOT.
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