Final pre-bowl coaches’ poll to be open ballot

I don't care how many people come to the game. The way Utah absolutely dismantled Bama last year after running the table should be enough data. EVERYONE knows that in retrospect that Utah should have played for it (and by the way they did Bama...might have won) Or maybe the way, Boise beat Oklahoma a few years back. Either way, the old way of thinking, that a non-big6 school can't play with the others in BCS confs, has been erased.

How come nobody wants to play Boise??????? I can't speak for TCU, though they are having a great year. But what about Houston? Minus a loss to UTEP (where they laid the biggest egg ever), they would be this years "BCS buster" (I hate that phrase)! I am cougar fan, but I also know that without that 1 loss, UH would be probably ahead of Cinci in the BCS standings. They beat Okie St. AND TECH. Not to mention a pretty good Miss St. team out of the "all powerful SEC". Gimme a break... Do a playoffs and you all will be surprised.

The only people that don't want to see one is all you Texas, Florida, Bama, USC fans (just to name a few). I'd let it ride on Boise, TCU, or UH against those guys in a playoff. And to someone who said that those teams couldn't win 4 games in a playoff against those teams...they wouldn't have to. In theory, a feasible playoff/post-season would only consist of eight teams.

TWO OF THE CURRENT TOP EIGHT TEAMS ARE NON BIG6 TEAMS!!!

Cinci JUST joined the Big East (who along with the ACC should NOT get auto-berths) a few years back from C-USA (UH'S conf.) I mean come on!!!! Cinci, Miami, Geogia Tech????? LMAO!!!! I tell you what... If I had to pick from those three teams AGAINST Boise, TCU, UH? You know who I'm taking, and so would most people who know football. Those schools could easliy win a couple of big games to play for it all. Don't be mad at me, cause at the end of the day, it could be Boise vs. TCU for the hardware if they did that!

Boring small markets? Yes. Small conf and enrollment? Yes. Bad and BORING football? Heck no! If you can watch a dead-a** Big Ten game (and they ARE the dryest games ever to watch), then you'll love that matchup.

JUST FYI: UH beat 3 teams from big conferences, and OK ST. was ranked HIGHLY, picked by some to upset TX and win the Big 12 North. At the end of the day, it's put up or shut up. If you're so big and bad, then let's put it on the field!!! All the talk about who you played and who they played has worn thin. There is more parIty in college football now than ever before. So as the game progresses, so should how we determine a TRUE champion.

Div 1 college football (now call FBS division) is the ONLY LEVEL OF ANY SPORT (H.S., College, or Professional) THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PLAYOFF!!!! HOW CAN THAT STILL BE????

Because "tradition" is robbing us year after year from true athletic accomplishment. It's robbing the fans, the schools, and more importantly the coaches and players who are out there laying it on the line. I am a former college player, and it's insulting to hear that the reason that we can't find out who the real #1 is because of how many fans you bring?? THat is disgusting, and I don't care about the money issues. If money is so important, then give some to the players, 'cause God knows they don't get sh*t!!!!!

Small schools: keep grindin' and pissin' people off by winning and beating the big boys.
Big schools: until you're ready to put up or shut up...just SHUT UP!!!

AND WILL SOMEONE PLEASE STOP B*TCH*NG UP AND GIVE BOISE A GAME FOR 2011?!?!?!
...all the d*mn yappin but no one wants to play. How pathetic...

Tony and Jennifer should go out to dinner. Where theres millions to made -- corruption will follow and we uphold this system with our devout belief in our teams and their traditions. They actually cater to us, look at it from that perspective and realize this truth. Notre Dame goes 10 and 2 and they get a bid uncontested. (Boise would romp them) The Mountain West is full of men but no one wants to watch these schools, no one cares so The BCS does what it is designed to do and thats not give us a real champ but make more money. Pathetic, but im at work on Saturday because of the same thing so who are we to finger point and name call (sarcasm) Tony and Jennifer need to get their roast on--for real.

okcfan12, I agree with your denunciation of BCS system. I want playoffs. You should not want playoffs, because Boise State and TCU can not plausibly win four consecutive games against outstanding teams in a playoff of 16 teams, after playing horrible teams all season.

I agree with your declaration that Big East should have lost its automatic berth. I agree that Penn State and Ohio State are perennially overrated.

okcfan12 claimed "WHo can defend this system? it's an absolute insult to such great paying fans". You are partially correct. Bowls exist to earn profit. "Paying fans" do not want to spend cash to see lowly teams from abysmal conferences pretending that they belong in legitimate bowls. A reporter asked TCU's coach this week why TCU can't fill its stadium. He lied "We've had bad weather". TCU can't sell out its stadium, even when it is ranked in top 10. It couldn't sell out it stadium when it hosted the Fort Worth Bowl two consecutive years, which is why that bowl is defunct. Boise State played in one of those Fort Worth Bowls. Neither TCU nor Boise State had enough "paying fans" to fill TCU's small stadium. The first game which TCU sold out this decade was when Texas Tech played there, because Tech's fans purchased more tickets. Bowls in huge stadiums do not want teams like TCU to play in them, because they have few "paying fans".

Kyoshojoe claimed "I have a question for you: how can a team in an inferior conference, that can only get "inferior" players, ever reach elite status? With that infantile circular logic, a BSU, TCU, Utah would NEVER get better." Your believing that Boise State and TCU reached "elite status" is indefensible. Boise State would not have a winning record if it played in Big 12 South and had to play Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and a few other ranked teams every year. "Elite" teams do not barely defeat pipsqueaks, which Boise State has done many times this year. TCU's only claim of validity this year is that it defeated 25th ranked BYU. Wow.

First L and okcfan12 complained that Texas and Florida play "patsies" in non conference. The difference is that Texas and Florida play strong teams in conference. Boise State and TCU play "patsies" in conference. And, Boise State scheduled 1-AA teams. How do they notice the "'patsies" on other teams' schedules, but not on Boise State's schedule?

My favorite team, Texas Tech, must play five ranked teams on the road this year, including three which were or are ranked in top 10. Tech has the fourth most productive offense in America, despite playing many strong teams. Yet, it is 6-3 and not ranked, because voters rank teams like Utah who have not had to play one ranked team. Tell me that Boise State should be in a BCS bowl after it plays five ranked teams on the road in one season.

okcfan12, I agree with your denunciation of BCS system. I want playoffs. You should not want playoffs, because Boise State and TCU can not plausibly win four consecutive games against outstanding teams in a playoff of 16 teams, after playing horrible teams all season.

I agree with your declaration that Big East should have lost its automatic berth. I agree that Penn State and Ohio State are perennially overrated.

okcfan12 claimed "WHo can defend this system? it's an absolute insult to such great paying fans". You are partially correct. Bowls exist to earn profit. "Paying fans" do not want to spend cash to see lowly teams from abysmal conferences pretending that they belong in legitimate bowls. A reporter asked TCU's coach this week why TCU can't fill its stadium. He lied "We've had bad weather". TCU can't sell out its stadium, even when it is ranked in top 10. It couldn't sell out it stadium when it hosted the Fort Worth Bowl two consecutive years, which is why that bowl is defunct. Boise State played in one of those Fort Worth Bowls. Neither TCU nor Boise State had enough "paying fans" to fill TCU's small stadium. The first game which TCU sold out this decade was when Texas Tech played there, because Tech's fans purchased more tickets. Bowls in huge stadiums do not want teams like TCU to play in them, because they have few "paying fans".

Kyoshojoe claimed "I have a question for you: how can a team in an inferior conference, that can only get "inferior" players, ever reach elite status? With that infantile circular logic, a BSU, TCU, Utah would NEVER get better." His believing that Boise State and TCU reached "elite status" is indefensible. Boise State would not have a winning record if it played in Big 12 South and had to play Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and a few other ranked teams every year. "Elite" teams do not barely defeat pipsqueaks, which Boise State has done many times this year. TCU's only claim of validity this year is that it defeated 25th ranked BYU. Wow.

First L and okcfan12 complained that Texas and Florida play "patsies" in non conference. The difference is that Texas and Florida play strong teams in conference. Boise State and TCU play "patsies" in conference. And, Boise State scheduled 1-AA teams. How do they notice the "'patsies" on other teams' schedules, but not on Boise State's schedule?

My favorite team, Texas Tech, must play five ranked teams on the road this year, including three which were or are ranked in top 10. Tech has the fourth most productive offense in America, despite playing many strong teams. Yet, it is 6-3 and not ranked, because voters rank teams like Utah who have not had to play one ranked team. Tell me that Boise State should be in a BCS bowl after it plays five ranked teams on the road in one season.

i wonder which sec team will get a free pass to the bcs game this year. by that i mean the sec is always going to be hyped up more than any other conference. don't believe me? auburn, sc, ole miss (once a top 10 - are you kidding me?!), and georgia have been ranked and aren't anymore.

also, who has lsu actually beaten this year who is any good? granted, their only loss (so far) has been to florida (where they only managed 3 points!). so, florida has also only beaten one decent team (lsu), where they managed to score only 13 points. the only team alabama has really played is va tech, which isn't even ranked in the top 20 anymore!

wow, what a great system. 1-aa can do playoffs, but 1-a can't?! what a bunch of crap; the bcs title is a joke and an insult to every honest cfb fan.

I enjoy the football-related comments but some of the other stuff could probably be better suited for a chat room. I am tired of the SEC being proclaimed the toughest conference in the BCS while other conferences are penalized for playing nonconference schedules that include BCS quality teams. Our feathered friends in Eugene scheduled Boise State at the beginning of the season and OSU scheduled Cincinnati soon after while the SEC (with the exception of LSU who scheduled the UW) is safely nested in their soft schedules.

I am willing to give the BCS one more chance to make a real improvement which would be to implement a system (with teeth) for ranking strength of schedules to support BCS rankings. Who knows, it may actually improve ESPN programming at the beginning of the season with teams scheduling better quality teams without the fear of it being held against them for the rest of the season. To the veteran, thank you for your service.

Lets see.

1) 2 of the top 3 Teams are SEC.

2) 2 of the Top teams barely look impressive in wins against weak opponents, etc.. Florida and Ark State.

3) SEC Officials get suspended for cheating, influencing, helping Florida and Alabama, along with LSU and other SEC teams, win games with mysterious calls, at the end of games. This to put "such great saviors such as Tebow, our football lord and savior" in position to win, when he couldn't do it the first 3 1/2 quarters.

Other complaints, quit hyping Tebow, McCoy, and anyone else from day 1, about the Heisman. Does anyone truely think that the BIG MONEY COLLEGES AREN'T GOING TO ATTEMPT TO BUY THE TROPHY FOR THEIR MAN????

Here is a suggestion, before College football starts sliding into the baseball/ basket ball realm of "obvious favoritism" and before it tarnishes (which it is starting to do) and ruins the college football mystique.

Playoffs, let the players play, and at the end of the season, "choose player (no matter what league) in college football and KEEP THE OBVIOUS, WEEKLY FAVORITISM, OUT OF ALL COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Again, it is a great game now but CONTINUED OBVIOUS FAVORITSM WILL EVENTUALLY RUIN 100 YEARS OF GREATNESS IF THEY KEEP HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION.

Also, teams don't play anyone good? Well Playoffs and realize that there are thousands of players in college. Not everyone can BUY their way to a big school. Everyone claims that TEBOW, for example, is the best QB in college.

Yet, put any other good quarterback in the offense they have (with the O-Line, good defense, and easy opponents they have) and see if anyone else can do the same?

My first choice comes from a team I actually despise, and that is USC's Barkley, or Michigans Fortier, Oregons QB M--- name slips me at this moment, Cinncinatis Peak, or Boise States QB, for instance).

Put them in those systems and lets see just how Godly and perfect McCoy, Tebow, etc.. are.

Who cares about the polls? it's time for everyone to understand that the biggest injustice of all is the BCS system!!!! Florida is ranked No. 1 despite playing weak non-conference teams. Florida hasn’t played a non-conference game outside the state of Florida since the BCS was created and had only two outside Gainesville in the past five seasons. The only major non-conference team on the long-term schedule is fading Florida State. The Gators will play South Florida in 2010 and 2015, but other than that, it’s straight sisters of the poor. The non-conference is meaningless to the Gators’ title hopes … unless they lose. So why risk it? “I don’t plan on changing the way we schedule,” Meyer said last summer.

Imagine the fairness of this scenario... BSU beat Oregon in week 1. Both teams may go on and win out the season. Oregon is guaranteed a BCS berth, while BSU's fate is left in the hands of a terribly flawed system that is quite possibly a violation of Federal Sherman Anti-trust Laws, and may get passed over for TCU. How do you feel about that? Stop debating it and let it be settled on the field.

Who cares if Florida beats up on these patsies and win 2-3 tough SEC games? Even if they lose one, they’ll most likely play for the title anyway due to the flaws in the system. This isn’t scheduling cowardice on Meyer's part, it’s what passes for BCS intelligence. If you’re a big-name program, it’s foolish to prove yourself outside of the mandated league games. A monster showdown might be fun to play in, but it isn’t proportionately rewarded by either the voters or the computers. All it does is open you up to a loss, an injury or an emotional letdown. You’re best served staying home and playing patsies.

LET"S GET THIS SETTLED ON THE FIELD!

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TO: Jennifer Tyler #26,
OKCFAN12 was too nice. You're exhibiting the good ole boys mentality. The "If it happened in the past, it's the right way". I guess segregation should be brought back? Maybe the Brits should rule the US?

I have a question for you: how can a team in an inferior conference, that can only get "inferior" players, ever reach elite status? With that infantile circular logic, a BSU, TCU, Utah would NEVER get better.

I see in your future a great career in the current anti-trust field.

Look past your nose and you might actually see the real world of corruption.

Bcs sucks

By troy

We need a playoff. Until then, it is just a mythical championship. Why is everyone so afraid of a playoff?

Let's settle this on the field instead of getting frustrated in chat rooms.

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I Agree!

okcfan12- Just so you are properly informed, Texas was originally supposed to play Texas Tech today instead of UCF. There was a scheduling issue, so the games were swapped. To say they scheduled this game on this day for style points in case they beat OU is quite a stretch and simply not true.

You also may not feel like UT is any better than OU, but the recent results on the field speak for themselves. Remember, UT has beaten OU with Bradford, Gresham, and a dominant O-line suiting up for the Sooners, what more do you need to see?

We need a playoff. Until then, it is just a mythical championship. Why is everyone so afraid of a playoff?

Let's settle this on the field instead of getting frustrated in chat rooms.

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Jennifer- u bring up many valid points. but nothing can mask the sheer corruption the NCAA exhibits by retaining this system. the system is designed to put 6 conferences head high over the others - usually those 6 have been the best - although when the desertion of the big east occured - and u saw what teams remained - shouldn't they have lose their automatic BCS bid? Last year - the Mountain West was likely better than at least 2 of the Big 6 Six conferences. we didn't even get to see the 7 vs. 10 late season matchup of Utah vs. TCU - instead ESPN spoonfed us a meaningless game of struggling ACC teams (as they have AGAIN this year).

There is the irony. ESPN has become part of the problem - and yet they have the monopoly over the ops and news eminating from college football. They have become shameless defenders of the system. And no one can argue them - they are not the NCAA - they are a TV network. But they have immense lobbying power.

I can only say to your assertion of Boise St. - since you are already surfing yahoo sports - go read Dan Wetzel's present column about Boise St. And tell me - who are the cowards? really? Is it right that Florida and Texas cupcake their way to a BCS title game? There are frauds all throughout the the present BCS top 10. Texas was lucky to escape OU - Texas is no better than OU. But OU actually had the balls to play a real non conference schedule - while Texas scheduled Central Florida to gain mid season style points in case they won their 1 competitive game (OU). People defend Florida with the idea the SEC is high and mighty - are they really that high and mighty this year? NO!!!

The Big 10 is bad AGAIN this year. Iowa is the biggest fraud in the nation. Ohio St. and Penn St. far from impressive - they are only ranked because like others they play no real non conference schedule (at least OSU did play USC)

The Big 12 is down from last year. still pretty good. but the Big 12 north is the worst pice of a conference in the nation. I think the Sun Belt could challenge in the Big 12 North (maybe not the sun belt - but definitely the MAC for sure)

ACC is pitiful. Hye but they do get TV time (thank u espn)

The suprise conferences that are up this year are the Pac 10 - and believe it or not - the Big East.

I personally think that if 2 of the current top 3 in the BCS lose. SEC title game loser - and maybe Texas somewhere - who knows. But if 2 of the top 3 fall.......I FIRMLY believe Cincinnati should be in the National Title game. Have any of you watched them this year? They are the one undefeated who has been impressive. They slaughtered Rutgers and USF on the road - and hey as it turns out - those teams aren't as bad as considered pre-season. They lost a QB that was a possible Davey O'Brian candidate - and yet their backup comes in and they don't even skip a beat. That team is the real deal. TCU and Boise - tough luck for them - no one will play them. mark that down - your precious big 6 teams don't have the balls to play tcu or boise. Iowa is a fraud. The big 10 sucked last year and yet got 2 teams in BCS games. Boise should have went over Ohio St. But didn't and we all know why.........$$$$$$$. WHo can defend this system? it's an absolute insult to such great paying fans - to such a great sport.

On a side not - instead of tinkering with health care (tinker with that in a couple years when they actually get the RIGHT plan - not just a slightly better plan) - I really wish out government would step and stop the Bull Crap System. Because that is what it is. Who and how can this system be defended. The bowl games are even a joke - they don't select teams based upon good matchups - they select them based upon how well they "travel" and how much exposure they will get. The BCS status quo is intended to give small conferences a tiny piece of the pie - not to truly do justice - but just to give the appearance of justice. The BCS system is designed to give 80% of the pie to the big 6 conferences - so the bottom conferencec can not improve - and thus get sacrificed to the BIg 6. Utah, TCU, Boise- have all defied this. We should raise incredible amounts of pressure upon this status quo.

Hey I like the scoring methods. although both thr harris poll and coaches poll are insane. neither are properly qualified - but the should still use BCS methods - just give us a 16 team playoff. with all conf. winners in no matter what. and teams would fight likehell for the 1 spot - prob schedule great teams in non conf. so they could have marquee wins - all so they could be ranked no.1 and get to play the sun belt conference winner. seriously - wetzel or one of them showed how to 16 team playoff last year - and was awesome. It looked like it would be so much fun. But sure enough - int he next year or 2 - we'll be seeing 4 or 5 blimps at football games at like we did last year at texas games.

this system is a joke. stop protecting the lucrative greed - and give us something that is truly REAL. like college basketball does.

Tony C, that sand blowing in your eyes prompted you to forget that a lunatic voted to ranked Texas first last year, the day after it was defeated by Texas Tech. That liar should have been exposed and ejected from his voting position. Media and you did not care about his being a pathological liar.

Trevor hallucinated "HE BCS IS A MONOPOLY, HAS NO SCIENCE BEHIND IT, AND IS ALL ABOUT RAPING THE SMALL SCHOOLS FOR MONEY! I" How is BCS raping little Boise State while outrageously ranking it 5th in America, despite its barely defeating many horrible teams? No one rapes "small schools" for money. One reason they are excluded from valid bowls is that no one wants to watch teams from Podunk play. Low ratings impel decreased advertising revenue.

Mike snarled "POLLS ARE BS (BCS=Bull Crap System). We all know that polls don't mean anything. It's merely a systematic way of keeping the smaller conferences from sharing the $$$$$ EQUALLY". He is accidentally correct. Polls which rank abysmal Boise State 5th in America are corrupt. Invalid teams like Boise State always were excluded from major bowls before BCS existed. Why are nitwits whimpering about BCS? Excluding teams like Boise State always has been reality.

kgmuschara cognitively commented "BCS conferences deserve the big games because they have better teams, athletes, and ALOT harder schedules." Boise State's recruiting class is ranked 80th out of 119 teams. Its athletes are inferior, which is why it barely defeats atrocious teams. It does not deserve to be in prestigious bowls.

Wow Mike I couldn;t believe your comment. We are still living in a non socialist society. Everything doesn't have to be "Equal." Just face it, the BCS conferences deserve the big games because they have better teams, athletes, and ALOT harder schedules. Don't be like our stupid president and try to take from the big fishes and give to the little fish. Boise st., Cinci, and so on hasnt deserved anything except a decent bowl bid. The BCS is only for the big boys!

POLLS ARE BS (BCS=Bull Crap System). We all know that polls don't mean anything. It's merely a systematic way of keeping the smaller conferences from sharing the $$$$$ EQUALLY. That is the operative word here, EQUALLY. If this was a sex (male & female) issue instead of a conference issue, there would be MAJOR lawsuit happening. Title 9 would be everywhere. Furthermore, things have changed since the 70's; after Boise State Beat Oklahoma in a bowl, I think it's fairly obvious that every conference WINNER is strong enough to compete (not always win, and maybe not usually win, but at least compete to possibly win) against a USC, Florida, Texas. I guess that's the same as a smaller Basketball program in the NCAA Tournament (of 64) winning a few games against bigger named schools. The "Cinderella stories" happen EVERY YEAR in the Basketball tournament.

Unfortunately, the only thing that will break this greed driven system is the justice department. No other entity wants to break it. Because everybody is making a fortune off of it, except the schools of the 5 conferences (that's about 50 universities). They and every college football fan is getting ripped.

You are sitting here arguing about why coaches rank teams higher/lower to screw one another... gues what? THE BCS IS A MONOPOLY, HAS NO SCIENCE BEHIND IT, AND IS ALL ABOUT RAPING THE SMALL SCHOOLS FOR MONEY! I am a Texas fan, and even I know that! Take the top 16 teams and let them fight it out.

Well, it's 0545 in Baghdad.........gotta do some paperwork before I get off work. You wouldn't believe how much they pay me to sit here and talk to you guys all night..............glad I don't pay taxes! God bless America and as always.................HOOK 'EM!!!

post 20----There's no reason to have to pay for it in America..........girls there are too easy and give it away.HOOK'EM!!!

Well, Tony C, sounds like your women have some part of the word "hook" in their description.

LOL

Jen---That would be a good one if I was married. I get bored easily and constantly need new women to entertain me. Unfortunately, most turn out to be as dumb as you sound.........trying to use big words. I currently have 4 girlfriends that I visit with when I come home. One for each of my Corvettes.hahaha. I am in Iraq right now(no not military) so when I come home I cannot be tied down. Only a fool would get married..............HOOK 'EM!!!

Herbert imbecilically proclaimed regarding Texas Tech's defeat of Texas "TEXAS let them win". That means that Texas Tech let Texas win this year, according to your brilliant logic.

Tony C, we can ascertain that your wife is not one of the hookers used to entice recruits to commit to Texas, considering that she is the opposite of viagra.

Paul F-----Hell yeah they do! They are in on it with us! How do you think we have the #1 ranked recruiting class this year? One big orgy on Nat. signing day! All the NCAA brass come to town......it's tradition man.................HOOK'EM!!!