Big 12 offenses sputter without star QBs

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NORMAN, Okla. (AP)—Colt McCoy remembers the Year of the Quarterback in the Big 12 last season. It’s no mystery to him why the league’s offenses haven’t been able to keep up the blistering scoring pace this year.

“Graham and Chase graduated and Sam got hurt,” McCoy said, outlining the star quarterbacks lost from last season’s record run of scoring.

Texas Tech’s Graham Harrell and Missouri’s Chase Daniel finished their careers as the most productive players in terms of total offense in the 14 seasons of the Big 12. Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford took home the Heisman Trophy after throwing for 50 touchdowns last season and he missed most of this year with a shoulder injury.

With only McCoy back from the foursome that placed among the top five vote-getters in the Heisman balloting—Bradford, McCoy, Harrell and Tech receiver Michael Crabtree—the shootouts are kind of back to normal in the Big 12.

“Every year is going to be different. It’s not normal to have a year like last year,” said McCoy, whose Longhorns rank second in the nation in scoring. “I think we had four or five guys we were talking about the Heisman every week, all in the Big 12. That’s rare in any conference.”

After last season, when teams scored a Big 12-record 35.6 points per game, production is down by 6.2 points per team per game this year.

Nine of the league’s 12 teams have seen their scoring averages fall, and eight of those have dipped by at least 4 points.

No team has had a bigger drop-off than Oklahoma, which set an NCAA record with 716 points last season and has seen its scoring average go down by 17.8 points per game. The Sooners lost not only Bradford but tight end Jermaine Gresham, a second-team All-American who’s second in school history with 26 touchdown catches, to injuries while four offensive linemen and three top receivers moved on.

The no-huddle offense that averaged 51.1 points last season has been bogged down by poor execution by inexperienced players.

“Last year, you had some more talented players playing. With Bradford and Gresham and those guys, you’re probably—in our world—scoring a few more points,” offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson said.

“With graduation, we lost some good guys. I’m sure that’s a little bit a part of it. … Other than turnovers, I think our lack of production has been with the increased number of penalties we seem to have that get us in first-and-20 and 15 more than I remember in years past.”

Missouri and Kansas State have also seen their production slow by double digits after losing star quarterbacks. The Tigers are scoring 13.3 fewer points per game without Daniel and 2008 Biletnikoff Award finalist Jeremy Maclin, while K-State is off last year’s pace by 10.1 points per game without first-round NFL draft pick Josh Freeman.

Nebraska (9.2), Oklahoma State (7.7) and Texas Tech (5.9) are also scoring about a touchdown less per game.

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel also suggested that defenses are adapting to stop spread offenses since they are so common now. Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy agreed.

“Throughout the country, I think defenses are starting to catch up with what offenses had (after) a pretty good run for four or five years,” Gundy said. “Last year was somewhat different because there was tremendous quarterback play in this league, and there’s still good quarterback play—but there was tremendous quarterback play in this league.

“If you follow the game really close, you’ll see that teams that are having success and winning games—in most cases—have good quarterbacks that have experience and can make plays.”

Kansas coach Mark Mangino, whose Jayhawks are scoring 4 fewer points per game through some struggles by quarterback Todd Reesing, said he started noticing adjustments to the spread midway through last season.

“More and more teams in our conference are slowly but surely fading out of the spread offense,” said Mangino, who brought the spread to Kansas from Oklahoma just as Mike Leach took it to Texas Tech.

“I think it goes back to the old adage that coaches want to run the ball, control the clock and play great defense. What did Woody Hayes say? ‘When you throw the ball, a lot of bad things can happen.”’

More so now that defensive gurus in the league are loading up on speed.

At Oklahoma State, Andre Sexton moved from safety to a position called “star” where he’s essentially a linebacker that’s expected to also cover wide receivers when needed. Oklahoma and Kansas State also have former defensive backs playing linebacker, while Texas A&M has a former receiver at the position.

Missouri and Kansas simply use nickel coverage as their base defense.

“I think defenses are starting to convert more safeties down, to put them at outside linebacker so they can match the speed when they try to spread you out (and) just have guys that are used to making those plays in open space,” Sexton said.

“That’s what we did a couple years ago, and it’s been working out good for us.”

The only Big 12 teams to buck the trend are A&M, Baylor and Colorado. The Aggies have easily the biggest improvement, scoring 8 points more per game. The Bears and Buffaloes are less than 2 points over their 2008 average, despite Baylor losing quarterback Robert Griffin III for the season and Colorado switching between Tyler Hansen and Cody Hawkins.

Both still rank in the bottom third of the league in scoring.

“I won’t be surprised if in a year or two a couple teams pull out the wishbone, and I’m not saying that jokingly, either,” Mangino said. “It’s like old clothes. Hold on to ‘em, they’ll come back in style. Don’t throw them away.”

AP Sports Writers Jim Vertuno in Austin, Texas, Pat Graham in Denver, John Marshall in Kansas City, Mo., and Eric Olson in Lincoln, Neb., contributed to this report.

Updated Nov 19, 5:25 pm EST
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    Holden Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:48 am PST Report Abuse
    Iam23,
    My arguement is not that the SEC is the best and everyone else sucks but nothing pisses me off more than hearing that the SEC is overrated. Like i said, since the BCS has been around SEC schools have won the Title double plus one more than any other conference. (5- SEC, 2- Big 12 etc...) That was my argument. Now, are there other good conferences? Absolutely. And does the SEC have the best team in the country every year. No way. But competition is tough in the SEC (and i'm not saying that it isn't tough in other places too)

    This season for example..Take South Carolina ... They were ranked when Bama played them. But they aren't ranked anymore. They lost to 3 top 25 teams (including #1 and #2 in the nation.) But they did beat a #4 ranked Ole Miss 4 games into the year. Ole Miss now has 3 losses (all to SEC teams including a #2 ranked Bama plus they have LSU to play tomorrow who is also in the top 10 with only 2 losses (again to the #1 and #2 in the nation) Arkansas has 4 losses (all to SEC teams but 3 of those to ranked teams including #1 and #2) Do you get the SEC a little better now??

    It's a tough conference to play in.
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:30 am PST Report Abuse
    There is no "best conference" this year. But in the end, the SEC will be racking up yet another BCS trophy! Best conference or not.
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    Dawgmeat Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:24 am PST Report Abuse
    iamma ....... youre wasting your time. i learned long ago to not bother with SEC homers ..... they are the most irrational people in the country. logic does not apply to them, neither does consistency. SEC fans will use an argument one season to prove the SEC is the best ..... and use the VERY SAME argument the following year to prove another conference sucks. SEC fans cant admit their conference is not the best every single year ..... they are programmed from birth that their dicks will shrink if they ever admit that. i have no problem what so ever giving the SEC credit for the seasons i feel it was the best ..... like last year for instance ....... but it takes a truly ignorant person to claim the SEC is the best conference this season. i wont even say who i think is the best conference until after the season is over, still too much football left to be played ..... but one thing i know for sure is .... it isnt the Sun Belt Conference .... and it isnt the SEC.
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:21 am PST Report Abuse
    You west coasters seem to all have the same problem.....pissing yourselves!
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    Dawgmeat Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:17 am PST Report Abuse
    hahaha ..... stop dude ..... im pissing all over myself over here. the SEC is pro style football now ????? i misjudged you Delta .... i THOUGHT you were a somewhat rational fan. now its clear you are nothing more than a delusional SEC homer.

    think whatever you want to think ..... wear an SEC shirt, look at yourself in the mirror and wax your carrot. the rest of the nation sees the SEC for what it is though this season .... a conference that has 2 good teams and 10 garbage teams.
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:12 am PST Report Abuse
    The SEC is having an off year. Hell, so is every other conference. Maybe it's the parody in CFB today!

    SEC football = Pro style football. Deal with it.
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    Dawgmeat Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:03 am PST Report Abuse
    Delta .... lol ...... comical !!!!!! this is without a shadow of a doubt the worst season the SEC has had as a whole in probably 15-20 years ..... and you claim it is still "head and shoulders above the rest of the nation". VERY funny ...... delusional SEC make me laugh. they cant even admit when their conference is CLEARLY having a down year.
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    John B Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:43 am PST Report Abuse
    Since when did we start allowing dumb ass chicks on here...hell I get on here to get away from them...
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    James Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:34 am PST Report Abuse
    Delta - Great argument, not logically based, overly biased, and means nothing. That is very reflective of most SEC arguments.
    HOOK'EM
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    Duwayne Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:08 am PST Report Abuse
    Reading all these comments about who is #1 who should be, as well as which conference is the best is entertaining. The fact is that even after the national championship game is played we still won't know who is #1 and who isn't. We need to keep in mind that college football is a sport to entertain and to raise revenue for colleges. In that respect those who command the spotlight will always be tops whether they are actually the best or not.
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:05 am PST Report Abuse
    Roll 'em!
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 09:04 am PST Report Abuse
    The SEC's O-line and D-line play is what makes the SEC head and shoulders above the rest of the conferences! Deal with it.
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    herbert e Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:12 am PST Report Abuse
    #17 that only applies to the sec right sorry ass offenses makes for great defenses
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    James Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:10 am PST Report Abuse
    Holden, good, you have every right to get pissed as well. But, the only mantra SEC people know is "strength of schedule", which is ridiculous because SEC teams don't play tough OOC schedule either. And to argue about the recent NC success isn't a good argument because it only says you had the best team in the country in your conference. That is not reflective of the other teams who play in the SEC as well. It would be like saying the PAC 10 was the best conference in 2004, or the Big 12 being the best in 2005. Now, would you like to agree that the mighty SEC was beneath those two conferences? If so, then I'd be happy to say the SEC has been the best the past two years. If not, then you have effectively cancelled your own argument. Because other than NC's, there is no other way to gauge how strong a conference is, unless they were to play head-to-head games with another conference.
    HOOK'EM
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    herbert e Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:09 am PST Report Abuse
    holden the gaytors got to play in the nc game after losing to an unranked team at home.lsu lost 2 games one the conference championship and got to play in it so the sec sucked its way into the nc game.TEXAS was upset by #6 team in the nation on the road. sec is overated and get to play in every nc game no matter how or how many they lose.if you get to play every year you have a good chance of winning every year so shut the f$#k up. the sec sux and swallows. HOOK EM HORNS
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    Holden Fri Nov 20, 2009 08:00 am PST Report Abuse
    Iam23,

    I get pissed off because it's retarded for people to say the SEC is overrated. It's like saying the Yankees suck. You can @#$% all you want (and i HATE the yankees and their fans) but look at the numbers, they speak for themselves.

    Tony C,

    With all due respect you've only played 2 real teams this year. Louisiana-Monroe, UTEP, Baylor, Wyoming.... i think their might be a better reason behind your numbers... both offensively and defensively
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 07:20 am PST Report Abuse
    Roll 'em
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    James Fri Nov 20, 2009 07:15 am PST Report Abuse
    Tony C - I feel your pain. No one gets under my skin more on these sites than a SEC fan. Its ok to get pissed, im sick and tired of all the PC people here who want peace and harmony. A great man once said "Only angry people win football games." - Darrell Royal. Maybe our fans should be angry as well, if you follow UT football very closely, you will notice that when the fans are pissed and angry, and have a high level of intensity, the team performs better as well.
    HOOK'EM
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    Chocolady57 Fri Nov 20, 2009 07:05 am PST Report Abuse
    Everyone needs to calm down....season is winding down, now. It doesn't matter who is better than who and what offense is better than the other or defense.......the BCS will determine who is going to the NC.....doesn't matter what anyone thinks about that....just whoever ends up #1 and #2......everyone else can whine and cry just they do every year.....no matter what, it has been a crazy year for a lot of teams that were supposed to be good and supposed to be bad.....love college football.....love my team!!!!!
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    Delta Fri Nov 20, 2009 06:52 am PST Report Abuse
    Let me guess, the Big 12 offenses without their star QB's struggle because the Big 12 defenses are so freaking awesome?! Gimme a break!
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    Holden Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:59 am PST Report Abuse
    Long trans,
    What kept Texas out of the Championship game last year? Oh that's right yall got upset during the regular season. Oops...you @#$%ed that up.

    Florida didn't kick Bama's ass last year.. did you even watch the game? It was a grinder all the way through and Bama was winning up until the last 9 minutes of the 4th quarter. We got beat by the team that beat Oklahoma for the title from that "overrated" conference. Lol and to clear Utah up I can tell you tell that every Bama fan i know was let down that we had to play Utah. I had never even seen a Utah game all season long. Bama didn't show up to play and we got upset. If you wanna talk @#$% about that fine but the fact is that Bama only lost to Florida one more point than Oklahoma did in the title game.

    Florida isn't the team they were last year and Bama is a better team this year so we'll just see...
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    Holden Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:48 am PST Report Abuse
    SEC overrated?
    Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the SEC taken home the National Championship 3 years in a row? 5 times in 11 years of the BCS?? More than any other conference. (5-0 when SEC school plays for the Title)

    FYI 6 years in a row more SEC players have gone 1st round in the NFL draft than any other conference...

    Losers will always hate the winners.
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    Holden Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:29 am PST Report Abuse
    Army of Darkness,

    Those damn Utah Utes are just kicking ass this year, huh? Irrelevant much?

    109 points given up all season long, Only 3 TD's given up in the last 5 games. #2 defense in the NATION (behind Florida) 10-0 record, RB Mark Ingram holds current top spot in the Heisman race.... but oh yeah Alabama is so overrated.
    Roll Tide Roll!! PS nobody gives a @#$% about Utah or the Mountain West...EVER
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    Army of Darkness Thu Nov 19, 2009 09:29 pm PST Report Abuse
    #1 Robert. I can't wait until a Mountain West team destroys you again. Just like what happened last year. Roll tide? Please. The SEC is so overrated. Their offenses are horrible, but because it is the "SEC" that is only attributed to good defense. Yeah... right. Way to stop Utah last year with your bad@$$ defense dipsh!t. Bama fans are so ignorant. No wonder everyone hates your @$$
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    LongTrans Thu Nov 19, 2009 06:03 pm PST Report Abuse
    @ 1: Doesn't matter. FL will kick your a$$ again just like last year because your offense sucks. And you better hope you don't get TCU in a bowl because they will REALLY kick your a$$. Maybe ya'll will get someone like Utah. OOOPS! Hope I didn't give you a flashback Bobby. Keep under estimating Texas. Everyone always does. Even the mighty USC '05 can't miss team. Hook 'Em.

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