TCU stuck in BCS standings after big win

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NEW YORK (AP)—TCU’s big victory wasn’t enough for the Horned Frogs to make a move up the BCS standings.

TCU (10-0) on Sunday remained behind Florida, Alabama and Texas in the race to the national title game.

The Horned Frogs defeated Utah 55-28 on Saturday night in what figured to be the most difficult game left on their schedule. But they remained stuck in fourth place in Bowl Championship Series standings.

TCU, from the Mountain West Conference, last week became the first team from a league without an automatic BCS bid to break into the top five of the standings this late in a season.

If the Horned Frogs can beat Wyoming and New Mexico to finish a perfect regular season, they will earn their first BCS bid and cross off another achievement on the pyramid of goals coach Gary Patterson has on display for his team.

“If we win two games, we have an opportunity to color in a box higher than we’ve ever colored in in this program, to go to a BCS,” he said Sunday. “That’s about as far as I take it.”

Unless Alabama, Florida or Texas slip up, that’s about as far as TCU will be able to take it.

Florida has been in first since the standings were initially released last month. Alabama is second and Texas is third.

The Gators and Crimson Tide meet in the SEC championship on Dec. 5. If they can both reach that game undefeated, a spot in the BCS title game on Jan. 7 would be guaranteed to the winner.

If Texas can win its remaining two regular-season games and the Big 12 championship game, it’s a virtual lock to play for the national championship at the Rose Bowl.

Undefeated Cincinnati is in fifth place and unbeaten Boise State is sixth in the latest BCS standings.

Like the Horned Frogs, the Bearcats and Broncos need help from the teams in front of them in order to make a national title game appearance.

At least the Bearcats control their fate when it comes to getting into one of the other four big-money bowl games. If Cincinnati can beat Pittsburgh in the regular-season finale, it will earn the Big East’s automatic BCS berth for the second straight year.

Boise State from the Western Athletic Conference is in danger of being left out of the BCS after a perfect regular season for the second consecutive year.

Only one team from the conferences without automatic bids can earn an automatic bid by finishing in the top 12 of the final standings, and TCU is in line to earn that invite.

The Broncos are in position to be eligible for an at-large bid but no team from outside the six automatic-qualifying leagues has ever been an at-large selection.

Updated Nov 15, 9:50 pm EST
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  1. Texas Fan
    2197. Posted by Texas Fan Tue Nov 17 12:22pm EST

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    Dawgmeat..All of your ranting has only strengthened what I said about Texas. There are no FCS schools on the record. They played UL-M (6-4), Wyoming (5-5), UCF (6-4) who beat then #13 Houston this past weekend and UTEP (3-7). Their non conference opponents are 20-20 and all are FBS schools.
  2. WATSON
    2196. Posted by WATSON Tue Nov 17 2:09am EST

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    The latest SOS ratings for those of you who claim TCU hasn't played anyone tough. Their SOS is higher than Flordia, Alabama and Texas.

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1016513
  3. WATSON
    2195. Posted by WATSON Tue Nov 17 1:48am EST

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    The problem I have with the SEC is their in-bred schedules where few of the SEC schools ever play a tough non-conference team. Virtually all of their non-confrence games are against cupcake AA or B schools. Which is exactly why Flordia, although rated No. 1, actually has a weaker SOS than TCU and why Alabama has an even weaker SOS than either Flordia or TCU.

    TCU = 22nd. SOS

    Flordia = 27th. SOS
    Alabama = 34th. SOS
    LSC = 55th. SOS

    TCU's SOS is higher than any SEC team. Even Ohio State, Oregon and Oklahoma have tougher schrdules than highly over-rated Alamba.

    The point I'm making is how can anyone really judge how good a conference is that is in-bred, refusing to play tough non-conference teams? Sadly, the NCAA SOS is not part of the BCS formula. If it were, Flordia would be ranked 3th., Alabama ranked 4th., based on their SOS.
  4. Ryan
    2194. Posted by Ryan Mon Nov 16 9:48pm EST

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    It is unbelievable that teams like TCU are regarded as minority to big 6 conference teams. I mean Florida hasnt been that impressive. There best win was against a LSU team with only an ok season. TCU schedules tough non-conference teams like Clemson, while Alabama. is playing Chatanooga this week. I think that they might have been in the march madness tornament once. I didn't know Chatanooga had a football team until this week.
  5. Jeffree K
    2193. Posted by Jeffree K Mon Nov 16 9:07pm EST

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    Hey , tj .

    You sound just as genius as SEC fans.

    Keep up the great work.
  6. Tj
    2192. Posted by Tj Mon Nov 16 8:53pm EST

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    Why is it that BSU fans think their broncos are an elite team when they have one of the weakest conferences in college football ? WAC ; 5 of 9 teams with losing records far below .500 . You talk badly of the BCS conferences but PAC 10 ; only 3 teams under .500 with UCLA at .500 . The Big 10 ; 4 out of 11 teams under .500 , the SEC ; 2 of 12 below .500 with 1 at .500 , ACC ; 4 0f 12 below .500 with 2 at .500 , Big 12 ; 2 of 12 under .500 with 2 at .500 , Big East ; 3 of 9 under .500 ,

    MWC ; 4 of 9 under .500 with 1 at .500
    So the WAC and MWC are so strong .. Right
  7. Jeffree K
    2191. Posted by Jeffree K Mon Nov 16 8:35pm EST

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    Why do SEC fans even post on this blog? They are a bunch of inbred, redneck retards!!!

    I hope my Texas Tech Red Raiders match up with one of them this bowl season and get revenge from last years fluke loss to Ole Miss.

    Vanderbilt, Kentucky, MS St, S carolina??? Ooohhh, scary teams right there. What an overrated bunch of whiners.

    I hope TCU, Cincinnati ,and Boise St pairs up against Florida or Alabama in the BCS bowl game so they could could expose their fraudulent asses, without SEC officials in those games of coarse AT a neutral field. and yes TCU and BSU are legit teams. Shoot, Houston would beat these SEC teams, they already beat Miss State..............the @#$% of the SEC.

    While my red Raiders punk their mid level scrubs (Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, or whoever) in some no name bowl game.

    Wreck ' em Red Raiders!!
  8. Jennifer Tyler
    2190. Posted by Jennifer Tyler Mon Nov 16 6:49pm EST

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    LAND_SURVEYER_FRESNO_STATE , u_asian@yahoo.com, snarled in post 2111 "Jennifer Tyler, your an idiot, your facts just prove that teams like a TCU are better than your BIG 12 teams." Please learn the difference between "you're" and "your" before you call anyone else an "idiot". Even kindergarteners perceive the difference. No proof exists that TCU is better than Big 12 teams, because TCU played another sissy schedule, which includes no victories over teams who are ranked in top 15.

    James, stimpynose1@yahoo.com, astonishingly proclaimed at 257 a.m. Central Time in post 2109 "JT, There are currently zero Top 25 teams in the Big-12, while the Mountain West has 3." I do not believe that a person who pays attention to collegiate football could avoid discerning that Texas is in Big 12 and is ranked 2nd. Is James dishonest or just a typical ignorant Horned Frog? Why do Horned Frogs copiously lie online to make their team seem less pitiful? Furthermore, Oklahoma State is in Big 12 and is ranked 12th in BCS standings. Nebraska is in Big 12 and is ranked 24th by USA Today. I call for a moratorium on psychoneurotic lies by fans of TCU.
  9. Trailer
    2189. Posted by Trailer Mon Nov 16 6:03pm EST

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    #2188,

    Good point, but if you read those scores, you'll notice that BSU lost each of those games by less than a TD. One or two in-game adjustments, and you'll have different results. Considering that, I think Boise State has it in for anyone they play in this year's bowl game. They would certainly hang with TCU, and I'm sure they'll put Cincy away. Maybe not by much, but they'll do it.

    Peace and Chicken Grease
  10. Trailer
    2188. Posted by Trailer Mon Nov 16 5:57pm EST

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    OK I'm still befuddled.

    Bama and Florida play unranked teams (Florida struggled against unranked South Carolina). TCU hands it to #16 Utah, but stays 4th? Really?

    I'm so done with this system.

    Peace and Chicken Grease
  11. Michael M
    2187. Posted by Michael M Mon Nov 16 5:45pm EST

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    2187. Posted by atul s Mon Nov 16 5:39pm EST Report Abuse
    GT/Boise St would be a great game. I wish the BCS would stop the BCS tie ins
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    To be completely honest, since there is not - and probably will never be a D-I type playoff, I would just as soon go back to the way it was before the BCS and even before the Bowl Alliance that preceeded the BCS - back to the Bowl traditions. At least we got all the games finished on New Year's Day - I absolutely despise the week wait and all the NFL style "hype" that goes with the BCS Championship.
  12. Michael M
    2186. Posted by Michael M Mon Nov 16 5:43pm EST

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    2162. Posted by John S Mon Nov 16 12:20pm EST Report Abuse

    "Boise State would dismantle most of the teams ahead of it - certainly it would beat Cincinnati and TCU"
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    Last year's Poinsetta Bowl result - TCU 17 Boise State 16.

    Don't look now, but Boise state has lost 4 of it's last 5 bowl games.

    2004 Liberty - Louisville 44 Boise State 40
    2005 MPC Computers - Boston College 27 Boise State 21
    2006 Fiesta - Boise State 43 Oklahoma 42 (OT)
    2007 Hawai'i - East Carolina 41 Boise State 38
    2008 Poinsettia - TCU 17 Boise State 16
  13. atul s
    2185. Posted by atul s Mon Nov 16 5:39pm EST

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    GT/Boise St would be a great game. I wish the BCS would stop the BCS tie ins.
  14. Michael M
    2184. Posted by Michael M Mon Nov 16 5:34pm EST

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    2175. Posted by Barry L Mon Nov 16 1:40pm EST Report Abuse
    yeah, I seem to remember all this being said last year, how Alabama was going to beat Florida, everyone said Florida was going to get killed, hmm, didn't happen, then again said OK was just too strong and would crush Florida, again, didn't happen, let it play out, you know what they say about opions, everyone has one, and they all stink lol
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    Perhaps some 'Bama fans said that. But Florida was the favorite despite having a loss on their record. Actually, Florida should have played Utah and Alabama should have played Oklahoma. The Utes were unbeaten and humiliated Alabama in the Sugar. The Utes going against the former Utah coach, Urban Meyer, would have had a lot of appeal for he fans. This year, TCU is the MWC powerhouse. They may wind up with a similar dilemma, depending upon how the last couple of weeks pans out. I doubt Florida will lose their finale against FSU (but one can never completely judge old rivlaries). Alabama has to play Auburn - their dreaded rival - when they hook up you throw the season records out the window. Texas - they play A&M who has no knowledge of what "defense" means - then, probably Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship Game. I doubt the Huskers have it in them, but the game still has to be played on the field. The best scenario for TCU to get into the National Championship Game would be for Alabama to drop their game to Auburn, then proceed to beat Florida in the SEC Championship Game. That would pave the way for an old Southwest Conference rivalry game - TCU vs. Texas for all the marbles.
  15. Michael M
    2183. Posted by Michael M Mon Nov 16 5:26pm EST

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    2179. Posted by atul s Mon Nov 16 2:46pm EST Report Abuse
    I have a feeling the loser of the UF/Bama game is going to face TCU in the Sugar Bowl.

    So, with the USC, Iowa and Miami loss does Boise St. get the other automatic bid?
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    Boisie State should play Georgia Tech - that game would light up the scoreboard.
  16. jusssss
    2182. Posted by jusssss Mon Nov 16 5:10pm EST

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    Do you think Boise State should leave the WAC?
  17. <i>eu1007</i>
    2181. Posted by eu1007 Mon Nov 16 4:47pm EST

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    TCU Fans, man all I have to say is congrats on the success of your team this year!!!!

    I am a UT grad and support the Longhorns with all I can, but it has been awesome to watch the Horned Frogs stomp their competition this year!!!! Good Luck and Keep It Up!!!!

    Hook 'Em........Horned Frogs!!!!
  18. Tony C
    2180. Posted by Tony C Mon Nov 16 4:39pm EST

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    Robert post 2181-----I agree with everything you said, especially the part about Florida being down from last year. And the scores that you referred to lead me to believe that Bama will defeat Florida and face UT in the big one, and this a matchup I like very much! However, 20 wins is 20 wins and Florida should NOT drop until they are beaten. The order of the top 3 really doesn't matter.........as long as all 3 are still in top 3.............. HOOK'EM!!!
  19. Robert
    2179. Posted by Robert Mon Nov 16 4:21pm EST

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    Roy M: Good to see a fellow Longorn on here! I think you're right and I agree completely - the polls are not really polls but a continuation of the status quo. I mean look at USC - they are still ranked and they keep getting their butt handed to them!! I think most people on this board would agree that Florida is not playing the same caliber of football they were towards the end of last year. I'm not saying they aren't an excellent team (and they have a really solid defense) but they don't look like a #1 team to me at all. Obviously, I am a tad biased (Hey I'm a Texas grad - what else would you expect?) but at least I admit when my beloved Horns have not played solidly in the past. McCoy had an awful game against Oklahoma but unlike some others on here - I like to give the guy the benefit of the doubt when he's suffering from the flu and smacks his hand on another players helmet. Barry L I understand your point that Florida has a 20 game winning streak and so perhaps there is little justification for them to move down. However, when you sneak by Arkansas by 3, a 4-6 Mississippi State by 10, a very weak Tennessee by 10, just an ok South Carolina by 10, it really makes you wonder don't you think? Like you, I hope Texas and Florida get the chance to play each other so all this "talkin" will finally be decided but I tell you what - you better hope that Alabama's offense doesn't decide to show up against you guys!!
  20. <i>imtakindallaseveryweek</i>
    2178. Posted by imtakindallaseveryweek Mon Nov 16 3:27pm EST

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    atul s - read the last sentence of the article. there's only 1 automatic bid available for non-bcs conference schools. Boise St. (Boise is not a state) would have to politic their way into an at large bid
  21. atul s
    2177. Posted by atul s Mon Nov 16 2:46pm EST

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    I have a feeling the loser of the UF/Bama game is going to face TCU in the Sugar Bowl.

    So, with the USC, Iowa and Miami loss does Boise St. get the other automatic bid?
  22. Jeff K
    2176. Posted by Jeff K Mon Nov 16 2:24pm EST

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    I hate it.....I hate it....I hate it.

    If you can't play in the BCS championship what else is there?

    Hey, you get to play in a BCS bowl, it's not the national championship but since it's a bowl it matters. IT DOESN'T matter. The only difference between the Meineke Car Care bowl and the BCS bowls (with exception of the national championship of course) is the marketing dollars and the money for the schools.

    What a joke, D-I AA, D-II, D-III, NAIA around playoff time is pretty exciting. I like the idea of the top 8 having a playoff. Florida Vs. Pitt in the first round, that would be just amazing, name each game in the first round a bowl and so on. If that happened Texas would have to play Boise St. in the first round this year, doesn't that seem exciting to anyone???

    And one more thing, those who say the regular season is a "playoff" are bigger morons than the BCS committee. Last time I checked, if a team goes undefeated they usually make the championship game, enough said.
  23. anonymous
    2175. Posted by anonymous Mon Nov 16 1:46pm EST

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    Playoff.

    Post-season NCAAF is a joke. Watch the conference championship games, then tune into basketball instead. Maybe they will get the point.
  24. Dingus
    2174. Posted by Dingus Mon Nov 16 1:43pm EST

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    Congrats to the Horned Frogs! I also love that they're coach hasn't played the same "we get no respect" record that the other non-BCS (Utah/Boise/etc.) coaches chanted the past couple of seasons. They deserve all the pub and props they get for what they accomplish this season, and should have been given more for what they've done over the past 3-4 seasons.
  25. Barry L
    2173. Posted by Barry L Mon Nov 16 1:40pm EST

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    yeah, I seem to remember all this being said last year, how Alabama was going to beat Florida, everyone said Florida was going to get killed, hmm, didn't happen, then again said OK was just too strong and would crush Florida, again, didn't happen, let it play out, you know what they say about opions, everyone has one, and they all stink lol
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