Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:54 pm EST
At some point during Stanford's 55-21 rout over USC Saturday -- possibly around the time Stanford players were mocking the Trojans' "Fight On" motto for television cameras, or when the Cardinal were lining up to shamelessly run up the score with a two-point conversion following a touchdown that made the score 48-21 in the fourth quarter -- the Big Question shifted from "Is something really wrong with USC?" to "What is wrong with USC?" Off the eye-opening pounding the Trojans endured at Oregon on Halloween, they've suddenly been dealt the two of the most lopsided losses in decades in a three-week span, and with them have lost any realistic hope of capturing their eight straight Pac-10 championship. That quickly SC, has fallen from its usual perch as a Rose Bowl frontrunner and lurking national title contender and found itself on the fast track to the Sun or Las Vegas bowls.
And it could be worse, actually: If SC hadn't survived close call against Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oregon State and Arizona State, it would be staring at the first losing record of Pete Carroll's tenure as head coach. To the extent they're still a respectable, poll-worthy outfit at 7-3 on the season, it's much closer to the lower end of that scale than it's been since Carroll's first season in L.A., in 2001 -- which was at least more competitive in its losses than this team has been, despite that team finishing just 6-6.
To answer that question, "What's wrong with USC?", there are plenty of potential answers, all of them readily apparent before the season. The Trojans are a) Starting a true freshman quarterback, Matt Barkley, whose struggles have only intensified as the year drags on; b) Revamping the defense with eight new starters, all in place of NFL draft picks that made up one of the most dominating units in recent memory last year; c) Working with new, first-time coordinators on both sides of the ball; and d) Dealing with key injuries all over the field, most notably in the offensive backfield and receiving corps. All of the potential pitfalls of the preseason have come to pass in one of the most spectacular one-month implosions of the last decade.
Clearly, the one excuse that will never fly at the deepest, most consistently blue-chip-stocked recruiting machine in America is "lack of talent," Maybe Florida, Texas, Alabama or another of the miniscule handful of national recruiting powerhouses can reasonably hope to match up with USC athletically, but certainly no other member of the Pac-10 can, and certainly not Stanford, which has regularly languished in the bottom half of the league in recruiting rankings for years. USC obviously is not losing by five touchdowns at home, to anyone, because it doesn't have the players.
No wonder, then, that USC partisans responded with such vitriol to the official school blog's assertion that the team expressed a "never-say-die attitude and unwillingness to relent" even as the Cardinal were on a 27-0 run in the fourth quarter. The implications of the Trojans being run out of their own stadium by a team that hasn't been to a bowl game since 2001 despite a full effort on the field were too much for the L.A. Times' T.J. Simers, too, who couldn't quite believe Carroll's suggestion after the game that one of the most humiliating blowouts in school history had anything whatsoever to do with talent:
"We played hard," [Carroll] says, the Trojans apparently giving everything they had but obviously not belonging in the same class as a group of future engineers and astronauts from Stanford. "We were trying hard."
Doesn't USC have the better athletes? I ask.
"That's obviously not the case," Carroll says.
Are you saying Stanford has better athletes than USC? I ask.
"It sure looked like it today," Carroll says, as shocking an admission as I can recall from Carroll.
"It's been coming and I think it's been kind of clear as you watch film of our conference," Carroll says. "There ain't no doubt [the gap has closed in the Pacific 10 Conference]."
Frankly, the implication that "this is a tough league" might explain 34-point pounding, from a coach whose mantra is "Always Compete," amounts to denial on the order of Bobby Bowden forgetting the score of his own team's game last week. And Carroll is not an octogenarian on his farewell tour. Either his young but exceptionally capable team was poorly prepared or it kissed its edge goodbye when the ball started rolling downhill late, just as it did at Oregon two weeks ago, and neither reflects well on Carroll, his staff or this team.
From that perspective, the really interesting aspect of the "end of the dynasty" for the rest of the season (besides the convoluted drama at the top of the Pac-10 standings in the wake of USC's absence) is tracking just how well USC responds to the threat of full-blown mediocrity. The Trojans haven't lost two games in a row since '01 -- before Saturday, they hadn't lost more than two games in an entire season since '01 -- and are still young and obviously talented enough to close out this season on a strong run that leaves them with 10 wins and sets them up as the Pac-10 frontrunner again next year. By that point, maybe the growing pains will have hardened this year's pups into the usual SC pit bulls.
Until then, we won't know how deep the obvious cracks that have emerged this season really run, or whether they can just be painted over like they were never there by another seven-year run of uninterrupted dominance. But even if their immediate fate is obviously shot where the usual spoils of conference titles and BCS bowls are concerned, we can still learn a lot about the future of this great program by how it carries itself with nothing at stake but the logo on the side of the helmet. The response against UCLA, Arizona and whoever the Trojans get in their second-tier bowl game will set the tone for 2010, which may be the year that determines whether SC will move back in front of the pack or fall back for good.
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Should USC be ranked? Well, if other schools stepped up then no...but guess what? 3 losses isn't bad since programs like Oklahoma have 4. Clemson has 3 losses, if they're ranked, I'm fine with USC being in the 20-25 portion.
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But it IS fun to see USC get trounced time and time again. Arizona and UCLA each have as good a shot as they'll ever get against this nicest bunch of 5-star recruits you'd ever meet!
But make no mistake. Pete Carroll will not tolerate this losing for very long. He'll start younger 5-star recruits instead of the lazy starters currently in place. He'll recruit hard come this off-season, and he'll get the same guys he always gets: the ones he wants. He'll get the Stafon Johnsons and Joe McKnights of the world, while Stanford gets the Toby Gerharts. It's just that when everything's not clicking, the Toby Gerharts will indeed run over you.
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About the media and USC, it does get ridiculous when a mere 3 weeks ago, writers like Gene Wojciechowski were claiming that USC looked like "a pro team" during Maisel's podcast. Such hyperbolic comments were/are so absurd then and obviously now to those of us who watch way more college football that we should. As a hot knife through butter, you can see right through his shtick and tell he has barely seen any cf this year (or he is that clueless on how to evaluate team ability) in that the one game he does watch, he is "awestruck". That is why the USC hate is there, it has been the perfect scapegoat for lazy writers for years.
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Before we get a playoff, we need to change the way we rank teams, namely, we need to get rid of the coaches poll, and make the AP writers more accountable for their ballots. Because even if we get a playoff, the teams will be determined by the flawed rankings.
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Come on now, lets be honest. Go back an look at the games which you say SC ran up the score and you will see it was with second and third stingers in the game...usually coming in at the middle of the third. SC has more class than to go for 2 in the 4th up by 4 touchdowns...with first stringers in. Although SC lost I thought it was a good game and thought Stanford played solid...that was till that classless display in the 4th and I lost all respect for them.
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You lost respect for Stanford after them going for 2? $10 says you never had any respect for Stanford to begin with and you thought SC would stomp this team.
How about USC playing some defense? Don't they know how to tackle? If not, maybe Petey should have waived the white flag midway thorugh the 4th and just end the game.
I applaud Stanford for doing what they are supposed to be doing. Playing football. SC somehow forgot why they were on the field.
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Listen, I get it...the USC haters are out in force, loving every minute of it. Fine. But Matt asks good questions here and all people can comment on is where USC is ranked. Who cares. If you can't make it to a BCS game, it doesn't matter...
As Matt states, we won't know if this is just a blip on the radar until next year. Obviously there are issues at QB, and the defense is not up to par (as a Trojan, I'm the first to admit that Taylor Mays is the most overrated player in the country). It will be interesting to see how the Trojans come out in their last 2 games, and how a season like this motivates them for next year.
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You just lost $10. On another post I said that Stanford would be a tough game and their QB/RB duo was no joke. I've also been a fan of the Pac10 for 20 years now. So where do I collect?
@ Tom
My sentiments exactly....
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I think the Pac-10 just got better and is catching up with USC.
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As for LSU being rated so high... they lost two games; to the #1 and #2 teams in the nation. And the observation that LSU was "beaten convincingly by Alabama" qualifies you to be a sports "expert" (I’m sure you would have reversed that interception call wouldn't you?).
This decade’s championship race:
LSU = two championships on the field
Florida = two championships on the field
USC = .500 on the field and one beauty pageant victory
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TOTALLY agree with you.
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And it was on TV, on a sports program to boot.
Maybe they should fire the people like that who are THAT far out of touch with reality.
It's so obvious that many people will believe it, if they hear it on tv.
I'm also sick of hearing about 5 star recruits.
How good you are in high school isn't always the same as how good you are in college, and then the same for the next level..
Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick.
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That's what's wrong with USC.
The reason why no one is asking what's wrong with LSU, is they lost to #1, and #3, and the defense is one of the best there is.
(13 points by Florida was the fewest scored since Meyer became coach.)
So... nothing wrong with the LSU defense... They obviously aren't the same team without the starting QB.
Most teams aren't.
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