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When I was writing about Florida's chances of repeating as mythical champs, it struck me just how similar the Gators were to the last two uber-talented teams who opened the following season No. 1 and seemed destined to repeat: Miami in 2002 and USC in 2005. Like Florida, both teams:

• Returned a senior Heisman contender in his third year as a starter at quarterback.
 • Were subsequently exceptional (and balanced) on offense, finishing in the top six nationally in total yards and scoring.
 • Were ludicrously talented: Miami sent eight players up in the '03 draft (four in the first round), and USC had 11 players taken in the '06 draft (five in the first two rounds, all on offense).
 • Went wire-to-wire on top of both major polls entering the bowl game.

And, of course, both lost classics as relatively substantial favorites (Miami -11 over Ohio State, USC -7 over Texas) in the final game.

The superficial similarities between this year's Gators and the '05 Trojans are really startling -- both are coming off championship wins over Oklahoma in Miami and have no competition whatsoever as the preseason favorite -- down to their Heisman-winning, golden boy quarterbacks taking it easy in the classroom. There's also the "greatest ever?" hype that incensed so many fans ahead of the '06 Rose Bowl, and that looms ominously over the horizon if Florida gets out of Baton Rouge unscathed on Oct. 10. The parallels are hardly lost on Pete Carroll, given the task of throwing cold water on the Washington Times' "Tebow greatest?" story on Tuesday:

"Look, I think Tim Tebow is fabulous, but it seems like just yesterday we were having exactly the same discussion about Matt Leinart and along comes Texas and Vince Young. It can all change in the blink of an eye, so I think we have to let it all play out before we evaluate careers."

I'll sign on to that bit of hindsight/foresight, especially if it means we get a game as enthralling as the '03 Fiesta or '06 Rose bowls this January.

Another interesting corollary between '02 Miami and '05 USC: Both had to come from behind for a literally last-second win over a rival in October (Miami survived an upset bid from Florida State on the "Wide Left" kick; USC has the Bush Push at Notre Dame), and both were somewhat exposed in too-close-for-comfort shootouts late in the season against outmanned Virginia Tech and Fresno State, respectively, widely ignored signs of their eventual demise. Just worth keeping in mind if LSU or Georgia takes the Gators to the brink.

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  1. kass0809@...
    1. Posted by kass0809@... Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:16 pm EDT

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    'and both were somewhat exposed in too-close-for-comfort shootouts late in the season against outmanned Virginia Tech and Fresno State, respectively, widely ignored signs of their eventual demise."
    I remember after the USC v Fresno game watching PTI, and Tony Kornheiser actually said that Fresno is one of the top 5 teams in CF since they kept it close in a shootout with USC. Fresno then finished the season by losing its next 3 games. Honestly, I don't think that the national sports media (predominately northeast Ivy League types, aka, privileged elitists) really understand college football, thus we are subject to such absurdities such as the USC hysteria in 2005. In addition, I think that Pac 10 is screwed with its new commish.
  2. Mike
    2. Posted by Mike Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:51 pm EDT

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    Miami got jobbed in the Fiesta against Ohio St. The stands were empty, and both teams were in the air on the way back to school when that pass interference flag was thrown.
  3. cm
    3. Posted by cm Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:23 pm EDT

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    amen #2, amen.
  4. Zachary K
    4. Posted by Zachary K Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:28 pm EDT

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    @kass0809: BOOOOOOOOOO for using that hack "predominately northeast Ivy League types, aka, privileged elitists" line.
    Kornheiser went to Binghampton University. Wilbon (and Stewart Mandel, and Brent Musberger, and dozens of others) went to Northwestern. The clowns on Around the Horn went to BAYLOR/Southern Illinois, OHIO UNIVERSITY, TENNESSEE, Fordham, BOSTON COLLEGE, New Hampshire, TEXAS, and, as mentioned, NORTHWESTERN.
    Pat Forde went to MIZZOU. Erin Andrews went to FLORIDA. Corso=FSU. Nessler=Minnesota-Mankato. Mark May=PITT.
    The reason you got inundated with USC love in '05 is because that's what people wanted to hear. Basically, it was the retard general public that was the problem. If it was really up to "elitists", you'd probably get half-decent programming.
  5. Kev Oh
    5. Posted by Kev Oh Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:15 pm EDT

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    Agree with Zach:
    The media is only a reflection of what society wants to hear. It's too bad that, for the most part, we're idiots who love reality TV, sex scandals, and human interest pieces on Tebow
  6. Jim T
    6. Posted by Jim T Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:15 pm EDT

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    Damn I'm tired of the "Miami wuz robbed" crap.
    OSU had Miami beat until THEY were "robbed" on a terrible call. Give the Buckeyes the clear catch for a first down at the end of the 4th quarter - IN SPITE of the interference by Miami - and they run out the clock and win the game in regulation.
  7. Jim T
    7. Posted by Jim T Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:25 pm EDT

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    Here you go:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq5vxW0wwSQ&feature=PlayList&p=F8AE7258EC3E2B17&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=17
    Roughing the QB, pass interference, catch inbounds = incomplete pass, 4th down punt.
  8. Jim T
    8. Posted by Jim T Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:34 pm EDT

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    On the actual subject, Florida seems to have something neither of those other "Greatest Teams Ever" had: a stellar defense.
    We won't really know until the season plays out, of course, but UF's REAL strength this year is on the defensive side, not the offense. Tebow is proven, and the OL looks solid, but our WR corp is thin and unproven and our RBs under Meyer have never set the world on fire. On defense however, we have the best secondary and arguably the best DL and LB groups as well. On paper our defense is head and shoulders above the rest of Div 1. Now they just have to perform to their potential.
  9. timjames99
    9. Posted by timjames99 Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Yeah I am curious about a breakdown of the defense of those other two teams. Florida returns all starters from a championship game that held the most prolific offense of the decade to 14 points. I could easily see their offense fumbling around and impotent in a game or two this year, but unless something bizarre happens you'd think the defense would give them a chance to succeed. You never know, though. Texas or whomever else could dial up a gameplan to make them look silly.
  10. whomever
    10. Posted by whomever Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    Seems like an interesting read...
    http://goatpub.blogspot.com/
  11. Nicholas M
    11. Posted by Nicholas M Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    As much as I hate to ever agree with Pete Carroll, why don't we wait until the All-Powerful-Can-Do-No-Wrong-And-Is-Perfect-In-Every-Respect Te-Blow has finished his career to put him up on a pedestal as the greatest ever?
    Ugh, I need a shower now.
  12. just4funsies
    12. Posted by just4funsies Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:20 pm EDT

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    Look, all the conjecture and speculation are just that. Florida will either do it, or they won't. And the matter will be decided on the field, not preseason on this or any other blog. Matt, do you get paid by the line?
    The season's here, so let's just sit back and watch. That is, after all, what we're SUPPOSED to do, isn't it?
  13. CuseFanInSoCal
    13. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:20 pm EDT

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    #8 - 2002 Miami didn't have a stellar defense? Huh?
  14. Captain D
    14. Posted by Captain D Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:14 pm EDT

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    Sean Taylor, Jon Vilma, DJ Williams, Antrel Rolle, Vince Wilfork, Kelly Jennings....yea good point Jim T, Miami didnt have a stellar defense in 2002
  15. Jim T
    15. Posted by Jim T Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:11 am EDT

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    #13 & 14 - I don't think that word means what you think it means.
    2002 Miami had a good to very good defense. But they were only the #22 scoring defense (OSU allowed SIX fewer points per game) and were #8 in yards allowed per game. They gave up over 300 yards rushing (!!) to VT.
    2009 Florida might end up with similar stats, but if so they will have considerably underperformed compared to expectations/potential - and they would have proven to have NOT been a "stellar" defense.
  16. Dave R
    16. Posted by Dave R Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:27 pm EDT

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    jimt, watched your video and it doesn't compare to a botched call that the obviously gave the game away.

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