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Kyle Whittingham last Friday and then Mack Brown last night, in his wonderful display of showmanship, both declared to gleeful fans that they planned to vote their teams No. 1 on their Coaches' Poll ballots at the end of the week. Hooray for protest and bluster, but otherwise, those votes are completely meaningless.

You probably already know that coaches voting in the USA Today poll are "obligated" to vote the winner of the BCS Championship game No. 1. But then, three coaches broke ranks to vote USC No. 1 over LSU in 2003, didn't they? So what happens in the extremely unlikely event that enough coaches broke ranks in favor of, say, Utah?

"Nothing would happen," according to Grant Teaff, ex-Baylor coach and now executive director of the American Football Coaches Association, which organizes and administers the poll. "We don't vote on No. 1."

Teaff told me coaches can cast a "symbolic" vote for anyone they want, but the poll's fundamental role in the process is to select participants before the nominal title game, not a champion after the game -- the BCS champion is automatically the champion, whether the votes come through in its favor or not: "They will automatically be No. 1 in our poll ... We will vote nos. 2 through 25."

Coaches Brown and Whittingham's simultaneously righteous and self-serving symbolism will be duly noted for posterity. If they want actual hardware that says "National Champion" on it in place of mere self-satisfaction for a season well-played, though, there's only one target: the Associated Press poll. AP voters Brett McMurphy of the Tampa Tribune and the Raleigh News & Observer's J.P. Giglio both write today that they've been bombarded with e-mails from Utah fans pleading the Utes' case for No. 1 in the media poll. The bad news for the Utes: McMurphy and Giglio are two of the four voters who ranked Utah fifth, its highest position on any ballot, and neither one sounds inclined to bite on a jump all the way to No. 1.

Polls or no, the Longhorns and Utes can always just buy rings, hoist banners and call themselves champions. Real championships are won in the heart, anyway, right?

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  1. 4.0 Point Stance
    1. Posted by 4.0 Point Stance Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:55 pm EDT

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    Just ask Alabama fans how easy is it to claim a national championship, even if nobody votes for you.
  2. Gbdup
    2. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    hey Utah get out of the mid majors if you want to be considered for a national championship or schedule games against big conference schools and if they dont accept your matches then site that later on in the year that the good teams wont play them. I know Matt Wetzel agrees with the attorney general in Utah but I cannot with the system the way it is currently. the only way i would agree with the attorney general is that if he is able to implement a playoff system or get another game to be played this year. but if the attorney general is just looking for a share of the national championship or money, then he is bunk. They should play in the pac 10. I cannot accept a team from conference USA or the mountain conference going to a national championship unless they do like davidson basketball does and schedule games against legit big conference teams. The pac 10 is off the hook after their bowl game showing but even though they have proved to be better than they are, year after year after year after year USC will have a cake walk into the natl championship if things stay how they are because on paper they are schdeuled to win every pac 10 game for the next 20 years by a blow out. what teams should do is play eachother so that they dont beetch about it later. its utahs fault for not scheduling reg season games with big 12 sec pac 10 teams.
  3. Chris S
    3. Posted by Chris S Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    Can everyone quit whining. Everyone claims they want to change the BCS and then propose only a modification to the thing. Until the NCAA actually has a championship all the propesed changes are just a bastardization of the BCS which in itself was a Bastardization of the previous system. The AP names the champion and awards them a trophy. If I wanted to name a champion and had money I could name a champion. The NCAA makes a lot of money from the polls without having to organize anything. why would you change. I could make more money but then I would have to do all the heavy lifting. No way. Until that happens all you are doing is tweaking a bad system. it looks prettier but is still a bad system
  4. DavemanUT
    4. Posted by DavemanUT Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    If TCU had a kicker that didn't miss 2 easy field goals, then we have no argument. Bama went in deflated, and Utah went in with something to prove. Let's talk about a body of work. Utah squeeked by Michigan. The OSU stomped them. OSU Beavers shocked the world against USC, Utah squeeked by them. Does anyone think that Utah could match up with USC?? Penn State, even?? Ohio State played a great game, with a great young talent at QB. They would beat, no wait, obliterate the Utes. Great story, just like Boise State beating OU in the Fiesta a couple of years ago. Did BSU whine about being snubbed for a national championship?? No, and as a matter of fact, Boise State could beat Utah as well. Remember what the Broncos did to Oregon this year??
  5. Gbdup
    5. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    byu was horrible this year. who did they beat that you are giving them credit for? they are a prime example of a team hiding behind a curtain and utah played them so they can hide with them. The mountain league is a joke, they play against idaho and montana all year long then expect something. byu is horrible sucks sucks sucks so bad this season!!!! please matt wetzel BYU SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOOOO bad open your eyes! and TCU who did they play??? they got killed by any decent team, and sketchy boise state doesnt count either. the only decent game utah played in the reg season is against oregon state and please oregon state is the worst decent game a team can play out there... you deserve a national championship for beating oregon state????????/
  6. Gbdup
    6. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    let me guess you were about to vote in ball state too... what is wrong with you!
  7. Gbdup
    7. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    the bcs doesnt do it to them they do it to themselves. i guarentee if they played good games the bcs would love em.
  8. M B
    8. Posted by M B Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm EDT

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    If a frog had wings...............
  9. Gbdup
    9. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    if utah played a good schedule then yes they deserve a national championship. play good teams and the rest will take care of itself. play bad teams and know that youre playing for 3rd place. its as simple as that. when utahs schedule comes out next year, if they beat up on good teams i will be the 1st to give them all the accolades and so will everyone else. we just dont want to get decived by these small conference teams its not fair to the big programs butting heads week in week out. if utah has a good schedule next year we will smile upon them and give them the utmost respect. if utah has the same crap schedule and then cries national championship we will scream FRAUD!
  10. M B
    10. Posted by M B Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm EDT

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    If if if if
  11. ewp
    11. Posted by ewp Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    There is absolutely no reason to make the winner of the BCS better than 4th in the nation. National champs is completely ridiculous. Utah's claim is unimpeachable. If they had lost, USC and Texas would still be the best teams in the country. How OU got there after their loss to a much better Texas may well be because they were thought to be an easier opponent for Florida. Never forget that the SEC has the greatest influence in the Bull Crap Series.
  12. Ute in DC
    12. Posted by Ute in DC Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:34 pm EDT

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    Utah does play a good schedule. The MWC is a quality conference. MWC teams have gone 6-2 against the Pac-10 this year and 2-0 against the SEC. Overall the MWC is 10-5 versus teams from BCS conferences. It's not Utah's fault that you haven't bothered to watch them or been following them.
  13. Gbdup
    13. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    utah is scared. just like miami's coach with dealing with marve. they scared. dont want to play anyone dont want to have marve within 1000 miles of the hurricaines or in the same conference. why do so many coaches go for chicken shiz schedules? it only backfires on them because that way they never had a chance to begin with. they are playing for 2nd place and to keep their job or get bumped up to a new 1 cos they want to have a good win loss career record. totally unamerican.
  14. shubago
    14. Posted by shubago Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    All I gotta say is, we gotta follow the immortal words of Jim Mora...... PLAYOFFS??!?!?
    this guy is a bit of a wack job, but he does make a few points: http://drivewaysitups.com/?p=230
  15. Chitownhawkeye
    15. Posted by Chitownhawkeye Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:00 pm EDT

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    Everybody is talking about the "if"s of a team making it to the championship game, but that's missing the point.
    The real issue here, even though it's completely minor, is why coaches are ranking teams? It's the ultimate in conflict of interest to have a coach ranking other teams, much less their own team. Throw in the fact that coaches are the least prepared to vote because they don't have the time to watch teams that they will not be playing and the whole situation is absurd. Get rid of the coaches poll.
  16. Too much fantasy
    16. Posted by Too much fantasy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    I have a simple solution.
    Congress should not allow the winner of the BCS "title game" to be called "national champions". Just like if you won the Fiesta Bowl this year, you can claim yourselves as "Fiesta Bowl Champs", but if you win the BCS Title game, that's all you can claim...that you're the "BCS Champs"
    Many people may not know this, but the NCAA does not recognize the BCS or the AP poll as a way to crown a national champion in Div 1 Football. In fact, there is no such thing as a NCAA national championship for Division I football. They do crown Division II & III champions because they have a playoff system. Did you ever notice that national championship teams in every other sport are awarded the exact same wooden trophy with the gold NCAA logo on it...but it has never been awarded in Div 1 football...
    SOOOO...congress...or the NCAA should step in and outlaw the phrase "National Champions" until a playoff is instituted.
  17. allhailcale
    17. Posted by allhailcale Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:58 pm EDT

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    the subtext in this article came through loud and clear doc. i guess you're one of the few who perhaps think that the bcs title game is actually going to provide fans with an undisputed national champion...
  18. Duane F
    18. Posted by Duane F Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:00 pm EDT

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    when are they going to take vages out of the equation and let the players play I cannot belive that the odds makers don't have a finger in the pie. watch the calls by the refs. and then look at the point spread and see that where ever the most money is bet that is how the spread is set. you my win the game but you lost your bet because of the spread.
  19. Bill K.
    19. Posted by Bill K. Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    the whole thing just makes me annoyed. i enjoy watching the bowl games for some quality football, like the fiesta bowl last night - a great game, but in the end, it's anybody's guess as to who the "best" team in the country is. why is it that we try to figure out who the BEST team is, rather than a champion. a champion is a team that wins some sort of post-season tournament, or completes some sort of goal in the regular season (a conference champion). at the end of the college football season, all we are left with, usually, are a few really good teams and no way of differentiating between them other than some polls of people who didn't even see all the teams play, and computers who see none of the teams play. so, i'm left in frustration at the end of this season, as i can't say who would win in a tournament of florida, oklahoma, texas, utah, and usc. who knows who the best team is, unless they can prove it on the field. it makes a mockery of the whole season of work.
  20. Robert B
    20. Posted by Robert B Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:46 pm EDT

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    Texas fans are still dreaming. You bearly beat a weak OSU team who had 2 losses. YOU lost to a Texas Tech team who got killed by OU. Just face it YOUR not a top 5 team! Nobody is going to vote you #1. after that sorry bowl game! here's my pick. OU#1 USC #2 florida#3 Utah# 4 anyteam but Texas!!!!!!
  21. sooners24/7
    21. Posted by sooners24/7 Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:58 pm EDT

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    man29 it is great to talk to you again, buddy. I can always count on you to show me what big cry babies texas fans really are. I told you early in the season how it would all work out and guess what I was right. So, you Mack Brown, and McCoy, just set back and cry all you want, make up as many excuses as you can, and say what you want about every other team that is better than Texas, if it makes your small mind feel better. The fact is OU is there and Texas is not. Fake punt, 45-35, 4 loses in bowl games, we are still in the NC Game and you get to deal with all that forever, because it will never change the facts Buddy.
  22. Kristen M
    22. Posted by Kristen M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Maybe if Utah actually played anybody worth beating, with the exception of maybe 3 teams, then maybe their undefeated season would have been a little more impressive. Quit whining and get yourselves a real conference to play in.
  23. sooners24/7
    23. Posted by sooners24/7 Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:58 pm EDT

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    have a great day man29 and I'm sure I'll here from you next time I'm bored enough to blog. Get a life there is a real world out there. Calm down and make a few friends. see next year at cotton bowl. Or if you want you can come to Norman and look at the new Trophy we will be bring back from Florida.
  24. Rick
    24. Posted by Rick Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    I think that to determine a champion and who plays in the title game they should use head to head competition strength of schedule and so on just like they do in the NFL. When these young men get to the NFL it won;t matter if you score 100 points a game if your head to head competition is not up to par. That is a stupid way to rank football anyway. So some team can go out and run the score up every game. The only thing that should count in football is wins and losses and who you lost to. Style points only count in girls gymnastics and swimming not in football. That being said, if Oklahoma wins the BCS title game this year then Texas should be number one because they beat OU by ten points during the regular season. Think about it. 45-35.
  25. JS
    25. Posted by JS Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:28 pm EDT

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    I guess Utah could go to court to claim a piece of the prize--which I think would be a very popular lawsuit for all true college football fans----regardless, best season against more ranked teams than ANY program still clinging to #1, and best performance in their bowl game. Easy #1 for anyone who knows ANYTHING about college football outside their own conference stratosphere.

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