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Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:54 pm EDT

Tweaking Tebow, for his own good?

Spring is springing in Gainesville -- flowers are blooming, hordes of tiny running backs are breaking the sound barrier, wayward defensive tackles are violating probation and, wait, the Tebow Child is taking snaps from under center? Le gasp!

One thing new for Tebow is he will be working under center some this spring instead of lining up in the shotgun every play.

"We're working on some under-center packages," he said. "We're trying to implement a little of that into our game plan."

This is Mel Kiper's doing, of course; Urban Meyer admitted as much on Wednesday. The head coach's first instructions to new quarterbacks coach Scot Loeffler were "Don't screw him up," and really, this hardly qualifies -- as Meyer points out, Chris Leak operated from under center frequently during the Gators' 2006 championship run (and look at him now!), and as Mike Leach pointed out last week, teaching a competent quarterback to work occasionally from center -- whatever trouble beleaguered, impatient, insomniac pro coaches seem to have with it -- isn't splitting the atom. If the practical effect on Florida's offense is more than zero, I'll be stunned. And anyway, they can just stop doing it.

Still: If I was a college coach paid millions to win college games with one of the great college players of his era at my disposal, whose wild success has come exclusively under a certain condition -- i.e. the shotgun -- I wouldn't consider changing it (I wouldn't let him grow a beard, either). And that brings us to the question of the day: Are college coaches obligated, or should they be, to make minor adjustments on behalf of their players' pro prospects? Or, inasmuch as those prospects potentially effect recruiting, are they already in the coaches' interest?

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  1. John G
    1. Posted by John G Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:43 pm EDT

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    They aren't obligated, but if they want players with NFL dreams to come on down, then they should as much as is practical. I think you're wrong that that sort of play calling won't hurt the Gators, though--it makes running from the QB spot more difficult, and will mess a little with all the reverses and fakes Meyer uses. Of course, you also have to focus on footwork rather than looking downfield, etc. And it'll take away that very potent Tebow fake where he pretends to run forward then straightens up. Also no jump passes. Of course, as you say, they can always just stop.
  2. HB
    2. Posted by HB Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    tebow, tobow, tebow... overrated.
  3. Hambone
    3. Posted by Hambone Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm EDT

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    Tebow came back, even though there will be stiffer competition from QBs in the draft next year. He can do this much to return the favor.
  4. charles t
    4. Posted by charles t Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:22 pm EDT

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    A lot of Gator fans thought they should have gone under center a little more the last two years. I think it will help the offense be a little more unpredictable. Don't look for it more than probably 6 to 10 plays a game.
  5. Todd L
    5. Posted by Todd L Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    this is also a move that they might be trying to boost the non-tebow running game. last year it was nice to limit tebows runs while they had percy harvin who could run from the slot as well but someone will need to pick up the slack. running moody, demps and rainey from the i might provide the extra yards the coaches are looking for. and if its successful tebow can throw an actual play action pass. not just his self fake step forward and duck.
  6. roger s
    6. Posted by roger s Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:49 pm EDT

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    HB......How are the bucks doin? Win a big game one time then you can make any overrated reference that you want. As for Tebow and the Gators working from under center.... I think it could be a good thing. If Moody comes into form as the every down type of back that he was for a short time at USC, I think it would be better for him to take some handoffs out of the "I" rather than a zone read type of handoff. With that being said,one would think taking handoffs out of the gun is better for the speedy Demps and Rainey. I agree with Charles, in that I don't think we should expect to see this a lot, but its an option that Meyer and his staff can work with.
  7. STRANGLE HOLD
    7. Posted by STRANGLE HOLD Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    I am waiting for LB to take Tebows head of his shoulders or break his back this guy is totally overated
  8. Joshgator
    8. Posted by Joshgator Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    rick b... That was the same sentiments expressed by Tide and Sooner fans before the game...and Tebow barrelled through them like they were 11 wet sheets of paper. You don't "take Tebow's head off his shoulders" or "break his back"...that's what he does to opposing defenses. You are an idiot for thinking that your team would fare any better! LMAO at your ludicrous assertions..Hahahaha!
  9. trystero
    9. Posted by trystero Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    Coaches help players' draft prospects out of self insterest.
    If a coach shows that he will do whateer it take to prepare them for the NFL and improve their draft position, the coach will have more success signing NFL quality recruits. Doing this(and making a show of it) helps Meyer and the Gators, maybe more tha it helps Tebow. Recruits are impressed by coaches and colleges that send players to the pros and the visibility of having former players stand out in the NFL is essential to recruiting. The best recruiting tool schools get is when the starting NFL players say what school they went to at the beginning of games.
    And here is a big one: Lane Kiffin, Mark Richt, Nick Saban and other coaches are telling the top QB prospects that they will not get drafted in the first round out of Florida, no matter how successful they are. Meyer needs Tebow to go in the first round (or to have Alex Smith not be a bust). If this will help shut up those guys worrying about shotgun vs under center, that is a good thing.
  10. PhilipL
    10. Posted by PhilipL Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:00 pm EDT

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    I don't get the Tebow haters... I seriously don't. Here you have a guy who helps poor people over the off season, who has a very high GPA in a career that is not "sports management", a guy who has proven his worth as a football player time and time again... And still he gets not respect from some.
    Just explain it to me... please.
    I might not like that Bradford won the Heisman last year, but I have the utmost respect for the guy. He led an almost unstoppable offense that broke records with the numbers they put up. Same with McCoy, The guy is an incredible athlete. It seriously doesn't matter that big 12 defenses were horrible last year because he, as a player is very good.
    Once Tebow is gone, Florida won't have a QB of that caliber. Don't get me wrong, Brantley throws a beautiful spiral and has potential of being great... but a player like Tebow comes once in a lifetime. Think Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky. Tebow has that "it" factor, and no matter how much you hate on him, you have to take notice of his accomplishments... 2 national championship, 1 Heisman as a true sophomore, second person ever to win the Maxwell award twice, Manning award winner, Wuerffel Trophy winner, Davey O'Brien Awaard Winner.... Basically, name any award or accolade that a college QB could win and he has... at least once.
    And it's not like he's won them because the people voting were swayed by biased opinions, but he's won them for breaking records and making new ones that weren't even thought of before he came along... Who ever thought that someone would throw and run more than 20/20 TD's in a single season? He tied the record for most TD's ran during a season by a qb... A record only matched by one other player. When it's all said an done, it is not going to be the individual awards or prices that will corroborate his worth, but the greater combination of all awards and prices he would have won. How many players in all of college football history would have had as many as him?
    If you aren't going to respect him as a person, or him as a tough football player who runs over every single player that stands before him... Respect him for the respect you hold for the awards and the other players who have won them. Would you disrespect any players from the team you follow if they won the Heisman? What if they won you a national championship or two? Don't hate... This is his last year after all.
    Who knows how he'll do when he goes pro... he might be amazing, he might be a disappointment, but know this... he is the most accomplished college football player you'll ever see.
  11. just4funsies
    11. Posted by just4funsies Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Overrated?? You guys need to get off the SAUCE... Tebow has done EVERYTHING that could be expected of a college football player, instead of just TALKING about it like so many others, including us... And he's a good enough PERSON that he deserves his props, even if he couldn't play football at all. Grow up, people.
  12. Haley B
    12. Posted by Haley B Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:55 pm EST

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    alot of people say tebow is overrated and i dont see how there is no QB ever ill say it again ever wit his stats he is a damn good football player the best i seen in a long time over his college carrer he broke record after record so i dont wanna hear he is overrated
  13. Glenn
    13. Posted by Glenn Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:58 pm EST

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    To the author of this article: it's "affect' not "effect" in the sentence "Or, inasmuch as those prospects potentially effect recruiting, are they already in the coaches' interest?" P.S. - If you're looking for a freelance editor, I'm available.

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