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Alabama 27, LSU 21 (Overtime). There's no question the Tide come out of Death Valley worse for wear in a lot of ways. John Parker Wilson completed less than half his passes with an interception and no touchdowns; his best play of the day ended in a fumble and touchback for LSU in the first quarter. The Tigers gashed the Bama defense for 200 yards rushing despite Terrence Cody's return to the middle of the line. And if not for the extreme generosity of Jarrett Lee, again a one-man Christmas for the opposing secondary with four interceptions -- one setting up a touchdown, one returned directly for a touchdown, one taking likely points off the board in Bama territory, one in overtime; all on third down -- LSU's advantages on both lines would have probably put the Tigers over the top.

Ultimate relevance of any of that: zero, other than the part about Alabama winning. As I said earlier today, style points don't come into play in Baton Rouge, no matter how brutal Jarrett Lee is, or how vulnerable the run defense looked for the first time all year. All the Tide had to do was survive, which Penn State couldn't do at Iowa, and shoot itself full of whatever completely legal painkiller it needs to get through Mississippi State.

For readers who watched the game, imagine for a second how good LSU might be with a competent quarterback. Lee has consistently cost the Tigers throughout the year (Rashad Johnson's interception return this afternoon was the sixth to go for a touchdown against Lee since his first jaw-dropping gift to Auburn two months ago) and the running game is just brawny enough to succeed in spite of the passing troubles, even against a defense as stout as Alabama's. If Lee could find a way to not make three of four crippling throws every week, LSU might look almost as good as everyone expected the Tigers to when they ranked them in the top 10 to start the season. Right now, with a marquee win over South Carolina, they'll be a little lucky to be ranked at all on Sunday, and unlike the blowouts against Florida and Georgia, you can't put this one on the defense.

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  1. Joshua H
    1. Posted by Joshua H Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    'Bama should win out in November but I wouldn't place a dime against the Gators at this point. They are absolutely rolling. Hey Doc, who wins the Big XII South tie-breaker if we have a threesome at the top of the division at season's end?
  2. Tiffany
    2. Posted by Tiffany Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    Well, i agree with your blog. As a LSU fan all my life, i have never been so disappointed in this Jarrett Lee quarterback that Les Miles recruited who has cost the team so many games. Like you said there was Florida, Georgia, and Alabama that we could have won with a competent quarterback and there was South Carolina and Auburn that we almost lost. You would think Les would take Lee out period and put anybody else in to try them out can't be any worse. As far as the Alabama game, I really feel for Nick Saban. He is the reason we won two national championships not Les Miles. He brought LSU to where it was and recruited the best. Les just came in to what he had already made. And i don't feel like he really deserted LSU. He got a great offer with a NFL team to make more money and who can blame him for taking it any other coach would have. I personally think if Les continues to use Lee as quarterback then the athletic department should do whatever they can to try and recruit Nick to come back to LSU and put it back to being the way it was. Nick is a real coach he brought us up from the bottom and he has done the same for Alabama.
  3. baller13zg
    3. Posted by baller13zg Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:58 pm EDT

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    i'm SO glad there is the SEC championship game... who REALLY thinks alabama is a top 2 team in the country?
    Florida-LSU, blowout.
    Alabama-LSU, should've been LSU.
    let's get a REAL national championship game.
  4. TonyC
    4. Posted by TonyC Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Hats off to Nick Saban again as He guided Bama through lightning bolts in Tiger Stadium
    Saturday afternoon. Last year Miles sneaked by Bama 41-34 when Bama was a rag doll team.
    This year in Tiger stadium Saban kept the Crimson Tide focused for 4 solid quarters despite a lot
    of adversity and then proved in OT that the Tide was a notch better than Les Miles's coaching
    staff.
    Too me a lot has to be pinned on the coaching staff either for the winning positive side or the losing
    negative side.
    I've given Nick his due now lets review Les Miles a little. Yes He has a serious Quarterback situation.
    So serious that his RS Freshman QB Jarret Lee is destroying the term offense on this years team.
    My opinion is that the staff is operating with sunglasses during the games both night and day.
    I don't know how Jarret Lee can continue to take the mental punishment the coaching staff has allowed
    him to endure. Yes its the coaching staff's responsibility for where the Tigers are at this point.
    And with all the coaching blunders the 2008 LSU team almost pulled off an upset of number one Alabama.
    I was listening to some post game comments from Greg Bowser and His thoughts mirrored mine when He
    said the staff needs to sit Jarret Lee down for a while to collect himself and get to the point where He doesn't
    feel like He has to make a big offensive play every time He's in the game. I think Jarret is shell shocked at
    times in the games yet Coach Crowton continues to insert him in the game under the pretense that they
    don't have another QB. I won't elaborate on the backup QB situation as I don't know what the politics are
    here - one can just guess there is more than meets the eye.
    Lets go back to some LSU QB history. In 1994 LSU was playing Auburn and went into the fourth quarter with
    a lead on Auburn only to blow that game when QB Jamie Howard threw FIVE interceptions in the last quarter
    and THREE of those interceptions were of the PICK6 variety all coming in the fourth quarter.
    Blame coaching for that massive blunder. How can you let a student athlete remain in the game
    when He was clearly in a shell shock mode. Also, what kind of offensive coordinator would continue
    to put the ball in the air when your QB has lost his confidence and field vision. The 1994 coaching
    staff had dark sunglasses on in the fourth quarter and LSU booted this game by the score of 30-26
    It was one of those you don't want to remember games and this lost falls on the shoulders of the
    coaching staff in this instance. Tunnel vision!
  5. Clay
    5. Posted by Clay Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 pm EDT

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    I'm perplexed by people not giving the Tide their due. Sure, they haven't looked dominating every game, but going 10-0 in the SEC means something.
    Florida looks incredible, of course, but anyone who thinks they should be ranked ahead of Bama needs to get their head examined. The Gators have had some impressive wins, but they also wet the bed against Ole Miss. If they get left out of the national title game, they have no one but themselves to blame.
  6. SpartanDan
    6. Posted by SpartanDan Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 pm EDT

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    Clay: It means a lot more when the SEC isn't Florida, probably Bama, maybe kinda Georgia, and a heaping pile of mediocrity. I agree that Alabama should be ranked ahead of Florida at the moment, but Florida is going to absolutely clobber Bama in a few weeks.
  7. just4funsies
    7. Posted by just4funsies Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Whoa, Clay... The NC is (and should be) about who is the best team, not who has the best record, or else somebody like BYU or Boise State would win every year. Yeah, the Gators wet the bed against Ole Miss, but they are the best team in the country. They are making everybody they play look like chumps, and are on cruise control by halftime every week. As to the rankings, there will be more clarity (and more relevance) after the SEC Champ game in the ATL. Whoever wins that one, be it Gators or Red Tide, deserves a chance to win the title on the field in Miami.
  8. LD
    8. Posted by LD Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:01 pm EDT

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    Funny how all the comments about Bama's vulnerability and Florida's imminent destruction of said Bama echo Lamar Thomas' mouthy cane-influenced blather before the 1993 Sugar Bowl. Yep, keep 'em coming. We'll just keep winning and partying like it's 1992. Heh heh.
    Roll Tide.
  9. jhyatt
    9. Posted by jhyatt Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm EDT

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    sorry tiffany and matt, even with a competent qb i doubt lsu beats florida or georgia - maybe alabama. lsu was routed against florida and uga and while a better qb would have made it more competitive, they are just down compared to the other teams.
  10. jhyatt
    10. Posted by jhyatt Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm EDT

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    to clarify: the florida-georgia note was directed at tiffany, not matt. matt only intimated las might have beaten alabama with a better qb -- even he knows uf and uga were out of the question.
  11. judy c
    11. Posted by judy c Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    Alabama is No. 1. (they came from #24 preseason). Give them their due. Get over it. Who knows what will happen with Florida, that's why it is called a game.
  12. UmmHi
    12. Posted by UmmHi Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    Wow, talk about not giving bama their dues. They played they WHOLE game. who cares if LSU didnt have a solid qb thats no exuse. Bama gave it to them last year and nobody complained but this year Bama wins and it goes to the fact that LSU didnt have a qb? come on. Bama played the WHOLE game, bring back flynn, bring back that idiot who got kicked off, it wouldn thave mattered the fact is bama maybe had a better team but of course there not going to be recongized for that because LSU didnt have a solid qb. As for the SEC champsionship game, being a bama fan, florida has great players but keep in mind, florida runs a similar offense as Georiga and everybody remebers what bama did to them. Anyways if you want to say LSU is a nobody without a good qb, where would FL be without tebow, or harvin. SO no Florida isnt a dominant TEAM....Bama is playing as a group. When wilson sucked, the defense picked it up, when the deffense sucked, the running game picked it up. Bama is balanced, take out tebow who else does FL have?
  13. SpartanDan
    13. Posted by SpartanDan Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 pm EDT

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    The reason people aren't "giving Bama their due" is that Bama would have gotten destroyed by LSU if LSU's quarterback didn't repeatedly forget which team he was playing for, they scored as many points in regulation as Auburn did against LSU (and Auburn's offense is pure suck), and they needed overtime to beat a team that Florida and Georgia both annihilated.
    Alabama has looked dominant for a game and a half, at most. Florida has looked dominant for most of the season. Alabama deserves to be ranked higher because they haven't slipped up yet ... but when the two teams play in Atlanta, Florida will probably win and I'll be surprised if it's close.
  14. marcillac
    14. Posted by marcillac Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:06 pm EDT

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    SpartanDan:
    I would be slightly more generous to Bama but generally agree with the gist of your comment.
    I would add that the LSU defense, though very good, the best its been this year and certainly good enough to win was hardly dominant. The LSU offense, however, especially considering how highly regarded the Alabama defense is, did indeed look to be of championship worthy...or would have with even average QB play. Their running game was the more impressive for lack of credible passing threat (well their passing game was thretaening though not to the Bama).
  15. just4funsies
    15. Posted by just4funsies Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Geez "WhAtisUp", is THAT how teams are supposed to be ranked? By what MIGHT happen if they locked their two most talented and dominant players in a CLOSET and THEN played a game? The stupidity of your analysis is exceeded only by its irrelevance. Don't quit your day job...
  16. KFD07
    16. Posted by KFD07 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:46 pm EDT

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    Bama is done... they have been lucky to get this far. The should have lost twice now this season and will lose and lose big against Flordia at the end of the year. Don't let the fact that they are in the SEC fool you, they are in the weak half of the SEC!!!
  17. KFD07
    17. Posted by KFD07 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:46 pm EDT

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    Anyone who thinks Bama could score enough points against a Flordia or USC defense to win is absolutly crazy! Any anyone who thinks their offense could outscore a Texas Tech or Oklahoma offiense might even be crazier!
  18. Ryan B
    18. Posted by Ryan B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Alabama their dues? Who have they beaten that is any good? Maybe a georgia team that has 2 losses and should have lost a third saturday? Lsu isnt good without a QB than can throw the ball to his own players.
    The Sec isnt as dominating as people thought they would be. The big 12 south is a much better conference this year and if your saying how good Florida is with its hiccup against Old Miss USC has looked dominating on defense and pretty damn good too.
    Alabama is just not that good.
  19. TexasHorns
    19. Posted by TexasHorns Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    BAMA is a good team but last night confirmed they are not #1. This year in the Big 12 they would lose at least 3-5 games.
    1. Texas Tech.......by 21
    2. Texas.................by 17
    3. Oklahoma.........by 17
    4. Oklahoma St.....by 9
    5. Missouri.............by 7
    6. Kansas..............by 3
    Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech & Oklahoma State will play 4 teams in the top 10 before their bowl games.
    BAMA hasn't faced even ONE top 10 team yet and almost lost to #20 LSU yesterday.
    9-1 USC hasn't played anyone in the top 20 and won't until their bowl game & lost to unranked Oregon St.
    9-1 Penn State hasn't played anyone in the top 15 yet and lost yesterday to unranked IOWA.
    9-1 Florida hasn't played a top 10 team yet and won't until the SEC championship game.
    Utah, Boise, Ohio State - all would lose 5-6 games in the Big 12.
    The AP & BCS polls are WHACKED - Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech & Oklahoma State all play each other in the Big 12 South plus the rotating schedule of Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, Iowa State & Kansas State.
    BEST CASE - FLORIDA GOES 8-3 IN THE BIG12 SOUTH...BAMA GOES 7-4...USC GOES 7-4
  20. TexasHorns
    20. Posted by TexasHorns Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    WhatsUP - Be honest.....how many points do you think Texas Tech, Texas or Oklahoma would put up on BAMA DBs.....for that matter, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State. Have they seen 70% - 80% completions for 300 - 500 yards passing plus 100+ rushing.......can they score 42 on TEXAS TECH, TEXAS, OKLAHOMA?????
    BAMA will need 36 to keep up with FLORIDA......SEC WEST might win 1-2 games in the BIG 12 South.
  21. Jarrekk
    21. Posted by Jarrekk Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:28 pm EDT

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    Jealousy is never pretty. Complain all you want..talk smack all you want. It won't change that fact that Alabama is undefeated. So until Bama loses, GET OVER IT!
  22. just4funsies
    22. Posted by just4funsies Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    "It won't change that fact that Alabama is undefeated. So until Bama loses, GET OVER IT! "
    Yup. So are Utah, Boise State and Ball State. So, your point is...???
  23. Ryan B
    23. Posted by Ryan B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Lets face it you can complain and speculate about conferences being weak or strong but ultimately one will never know which team is best until a playoff happens. I think USC Florida or Bama would do just fine in the big 12 or sec. Florida and Usc have proven in the past they can compete and beat teams from the big 12 / Sec. Hell Boise State went and beat OU during the Fiesta Bowl a few years back too.
    A strong team is a strong team so until there is a playoff system we can just sit and speculate how good/bad teams are.
    So far OU has only played 1 tough game Texas and they lost. If you consider teams like USC and Bama weak then TCU is nothing special either. We will see how they stack against Tech and Oklahoma State.
    Oklahoma State has lost all its tough games this year too. Texas lost to Tech but looked strong. I think if they played Tech again it could be a totally different outcome.
    The reason these teams are seen as so good is because they put up insane numbers against foes such as colordao nebraska baylor kansas state texas a&M and div I-aa teams.
    I am not trying to say these teams arent good but look at the facts. There are 3 really good teams in the big 12 texas Ou and tech. Ou state is good but not great missouri is good but not great. Pit these second ranked teams against ohio state or oregon state and they might lose too.
  24. G-String
    24. Posted by G-String Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:12 pm EDT

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    RYAN B...
    Are you serious with that crap, I mean do you honestly believe what you just posted? I hope for your sake that you are just trying to get under some fans skin.
    "Alabama just not that good a team"??? They may or may not be the best team in the nation, we'll soon find out. But to say they are no good is plain stupidity. When is the last time ANYONE was ranked #1 in the 11th week of the season and just not that good? Alabama is a great team, particulalrly given where they should be at this point. As I said, they may get beat, I will particularly give Florida their due, they are impressive. But don't count Bama out before they get a shot...on second thought, do count them out, keep trashing them, that generally works out well for Alabama.
  25. mikez34
    25. Posted by mikez34 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    I can't believe Les didn't pull Lee. He is absolutly horrible and LSU would have won that game with a half-competant quarterback. I think Bama will end up losing the the SEC Championship game. I think it is rediculous that 3 BCS conferences have championship games and 3 don't. They should all have a conference championship game. If the SEC played by the Big 10, Pac 10, or Big East rules Alabama would probably finish the year undefeated. I don't want to see another team sit idle and back into the BCS while another team plays an extra game and loses out.

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