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Readers who can still recall September (congratulations on that, by the way) may remember the helmet-to-helmet collision between Minnesota receiver Eric Decker and California safety Sean Cattouse, who briefly knocked Decker out of the game and opened up an ugly gash on the senior's chin. It was one of the more impressive, frightening-looking shots of the year -- so much so, in fact, that Minnesota set a physics professor loose to quantify the damage:

According to my physics education by Google, 10.78 g is significantly more force than Apollo 16's reentry to Earth and more than twice what the body can typically withstand for any sustained period (in a fighter jet or roller coaster, for example), but in football terms may be fairly tame: In Malcolm Gladwell's much-discussed New Yorker article on the debilitating long-term effects of head injuries, linemen are routinely recorded sustaining hits well above 60 g, and the general threshold for concussions seems to be somewhere between 50 and 75 g. So either there is some significant disconnect in those calculations and the ones scrawled out by Professor Dahlberg here, or you should shake it off, Decker (when your foot heals, I mean).

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  1. Carl V
    1. Posted by Carl V Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:14 am EST

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    "So either there is some significant disconnect in those calculations and the ones scrawled out by Professor Dahlberg here, or you should shake it off, Decker"
    There's a disconnect. The professor, at best, is limited to a moment of impact of 1/30 seconds (The frame rate of the video). So, his moment of impact is ~.03 seconds. The survivable 40-75gs are usually measured with high speed cameras and have moments of impact of 0.01 seconds or less
    Stupid physics... grumble grumble grumble...
  2. genius_man16
    2. Posted by genius_man16 Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:53 am EST

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    Not only that, but the whole "survivable" part of G-forces was created for, as you said, /sustained/ periods of time. If you honestly felt the impact that Decker felt for more than .03 seconds, you'd die in a few seconds. Same with linemen.
  3. Doghouse Reilly
    3. Posted by Doghouse Reilly Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:40 am EST

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    Charlie Weis/Mark Mangino fat joke!
  4. katster
    4. Posted by katster Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:07 pm EST

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    Also, to point out, it wasn't that hit that knocked Decker out of the game. Dude came back in and proceeded to help score all three of their touchdowns before getting knocked out with an ankle sprain. So he did walk it off.
  5. A
    5. Posted by A Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:03 pm EST

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    Formula 1 teams design their safety equipment to withstand crashes of up to 70 G. Why do they stop at 70? Because beyond 70 G, human organs cannot withstand the trauma, no matter how well designed the cars are. Any crash over 70 G is not survivable, period.
    Something has to be done to increase safety in football. You can't just "design better equipment", and wrigint rules about player size are unrealistic and unfeasible.
    There is, however, one solution that would be effective and would be inexpensive to enact: make the fields bigger. With more room to run, "skill players" can avoid linebackers and linemen more easily, and the offensive and defensive lines would have to spread out, creating a wider pocket.
    Larger and slower linemen wouldn't be able to keep up, so smaller and lighter players (10-20 pounds) would emerge. With less mass and less velocity during collisions, the number of injuries would go down. The smaller players would be faster, but because more collisions would be east-west, not north-south, the number of direct high-G impacts would be fewer.
    Just widening the filed by five yards could make a huge difference in safety without compromising how the game is played.
  6. kass0809@...
    6. Posted by kass0809@... Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:50 pm EST

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    Carl V is right. And comparing gravitational accelerations across scenarios isn't really a valid metric to begin with. G is not force, it is acceleration. For instance, I think that beebee guns have accelerations upwards to 10 G, and a beebee would barely break your skin. Granted, football players weight more than beebees, but to have sensible metrics for comparison, one need weights, impact times, area impacted, probably actual velocities as well, etc. Having said that, the professor is probably right on his gravitational acceleration calculations. but there is a host of other information that is needed in order to appraise "safety" effectively.
    Don't get me wrong, more safety in football may be needed, but you cannot simply compare G's and call it good.
  7. ondal
    7. Posted by ondal Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:02 am EST

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    Minnesota physics prof? Puh-leeze. Dr. Dahlberg is like the Gordon Wood of the physics world. Amiright? Dahlberg drastically underestimates the impact of Sean Cattouse predicated upon Eric Decker.
    I took a physics class at Berkeley (it wasn't between recess and lunch) and let me tell you that [profane] was insanely hard. Long story short, I dropped it and no one was the wiser.
    TENURE! TENURE! TENURE!

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