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Or, college football does its best impression of the Soup Nazi.

There were far more controversial calls over the weekend, and even in Notre Dame's win over Washington, but the final play in South Bend is an interesting Rorschach test on one of the major themes of the early season. Specifically, did it cross your mind that the hit on the Huskies' D'Andre Goodwin might draw a flag?

Looks clean to me, but I know some Washington fans (predictably) thought a "helmet-to-helmet" flag should have been thrown on the Irish, and some not-so-biased observers agreed with them in the immediate aftermath. And then again, being the sort that doesn't recognize the possibility of any penalty except a facemask during the act of bring down a runner, earlier in the year I didn't think Reshad Jones' hit on Justin Blackmon at Oklahoma State was a penalty, either:

But it drew a flag, anyway. So, too, did Michigan State's Roderick Jenrette, flying to the ball Saturday to help bring down Michigan's Junior Hemingway:

It's not surprising that that call came in a Big Ten game, since -- per its preseason dictum -- the Big Ten has been ground zero for the unsportsmanlike hit. The conference felt duty-bound to suspend Michigan's Jonas Mouton for a game for delivering an uppercut to a Notre Dame lineman at the end of a play, even though (or maybe because) it didn't draw a flag in the game:

... which didn't sit well at all with Mouton's coach, Rich Rodriguez, who accepted the suspension but subsequently informed the Big Ten that "we will watch every Big Ten game very closely and every non-football act, a six-inch jab or anything that is not called for in the game of football, we’re going to ask that that person gets the same type of punishment that Jonas Mouton got." And so the conference has been doling out questionable suspensions at every possible opportunity in the meantime, namely on Purdue's Zach Reckman and Ohio State's Kurt Coleman:

Coaches Danny Hope and Jim Tressel, like Rodriguez, were understandably incensed that fairly routine misdemeanors -- worth a flag, probably, but a suspension? -- were being handled as felonies.

All of those calls are pretext to what really, really bothered me about the dual personal foul penalties on Georgia on LSU for excessive celebration after go-ahead touchdowns in the final two minutes, which have been so universally deplored in the subsequent 48 hours. It's not just that they were bad calls (they obviously were), or that they dramatically changed the outcome of the game (they didn't; Georgia may have had an argument on the latter point if it hadn't gotten the exact same bogus call on LSU seconds later). But they personified the over-the-top, ticky-tack trend that from my perspective has nearly ruined the NFL -- where officials seemingly have no discretion whatsoever to let slide a borderline crime that couldn't possibly warrant the subsequent punishment, sometimes radically altering the game in the process -- and that's slowly, steadily trickling down into the college game under the banner of "player safety." That's not really a banner you can argue with. But it is an inherently violent game, fundamentally requiring violent acts between the whistles, and especially in the process of making tackles. It's an inherently emotional game, especially when it dramatically turns in your team's favor in front of 80,000 people with less than two minutes to play. At some point, the emphasis on enforcing "sportsmanship" and "safety" can cross the line to penalizing and ultimately preventing a player from a) doing his job, and (just as importantly) b) enjoying his job when performed well, which was supposed to be the point, somewhere in there.

This is not a big complaint, but it is a complaint. Let the kids play football.

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  1. Tommys
    25. Posted by Tommys Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:21 am EDT

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    The helmet to helmet "flag" in the ND-UW game is a non-issue. What you see, when reviewing the video, is the first hit sending the receiver the opposite direction. The receiver's helmet goes into the helmet of No. 22... who was moving into the guy and planning to push/slam the receiver with both arms extended.
    The non flag was the right call, IMHO
  2. Mark
    26. Posted by Mark Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:10 am EDT

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    I don't want to see players hot dogging and taunting, but players SHOULD get excited and react. Let some of that go if it's not over the top. I didn't see anything that Green did in the Georgia LSU game that warranted a penalty. And it's not like a pass interference call that hurts one team if you call it and hurts the other if you don't. If it's borderline (and that was borderline at best), then let it go, especially late in the game where it could decide the game. And I disagree about it not deciding the game, an extra 15 yards on that last drive was huge. Calling the same penalty on LSU(again unwarranted) on the ensuing touchdown doesn't make up for the other one, it just looks like an admission that they know they screwed up on the Georgia call.
  3. Leifericson
    27. Posted by Leifericson Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    Holliday still caught the kick off at the 10 yard line!!
    And then Georgia had time left to do the same thing but Cox threw the pick.
    That being said, I really don't like the new rule for throwing the flag on those plays.
    But, how about this? They know the rule, so just score the TD and hand the ball to the official, and leave the field.
    How hard is that to do?
  4. Leifericson
    28. Posted by Leifericson Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    Actually it's a very good analogy to the soup-nazi.
    But did you notice that the people who wanted soup were playing by his rules?
    The players on the field should do the same thing.
    Adapt to the rules.
  5. TX Tiger
    29. Posted by TX Tiger Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Mark Y, LSU scored in 21 seconds after the penalty against Georgia. Georgia also got an extra 15 yards and had 48 seconds left to do something with it. Both teams had to kick off from the 15 so it did not decide the game, the players on the field did. LSU scored a TD and Georgia threw a pick, that's what decided the game.
    However, both penalty's should not have been called. Neither case was excessive by today's standards.
  6. donk2155
    30. Posted by donk2155 Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    why is it that the big ten is the only one's dishing out suspensions everytime they review film, i mean yea that the michigan uppercut was a cheap shot but rich rodriguez is right, this is football your gonna have that and not all of it is gonna get caught, let the officials ref the games and leave it on the field and let the the rest of us complain about the missed calls. Now if you make a mistake in the game you may get penalized twice for it, dumb bs. And the excessive celebration crap is driving me nuts, cmon people this is one of the most competitive sports in america and the boys cant even put their hands over there shoulders to celebrate. I mean whats next? are they going to take away yardage from incorrect stats or penalize teams practice times that have excessively rough players? STOP SOCIALIZING NCAA FOOTBALL! ESP. YOU BIG TEN COMMISH!!!!
  7. Brian
    31. Posted by Brian Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:53 pm EDT

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    I think the NCAA should be disolved and start over. They're out of control, just like the Feds.
  8. Edward
    32. Posted by Edward Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:46 am EDT

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    Back in my day, we were taught to tackle by grabbing the face mask and twisting. That's what handles are meant for. To make a sure a player was really down, you speared him in the back. Fair catch on a punt? Nonsense! Sure some punt returners ended up crippled for life, but that's the way football should be played. It's a Man's game. Nowadays you get a penalty for just stomping on a guy's back or punching him in the nuts. They even moved the goal posts out of the end zone so you can't smash an opponents face into it. You can't even bite a guy's fingers off anymore.
    It's a shame what they've done to the game.
  9. ROBERT G
    33. Posted by ROBERT G Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:30 am EDT

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    dr. saturday,
    1. are you related, in any way, to dr. hunter thompson?
    2. the experts on our staff, using the ncaa rulebook, 1st class knowledge of the nca rules on college football officiating, game films from many angles and direction, and lots of experience in doing nfl style real time review rated the pac 10 ref crew and and the big east tech review at 100% honest. these evaluations do not take into account, in any way, which team won the game.
    3. we have gotten back many called and uncalled penalties in many hundreds of games over the past 3 years, but 100% grades are very rare.
    4. every week, we award a most dishonest game and tech review prize.
    5.the big 10 ref and tech review crews at the michigan/ notre dame and again in the michigan state/ notre dame game and yet again at at the michigan/ indiana game won that prize.
    6. this past saturday, 1st prize for the most dishonest ref crew went to the all sec crew at the georgia. lsu game, at which dishonest ref calls actually changing to outcome of that game. 1st, this sec crew called a phony celebration penalty which forced georgis to kick off from near the goal line and when lsu needed more time to score, this ref crew just put extra time back on the game clock until lsu scored with less that 56 seconds left on the game clock when georgia kicked off(no, lsu did not run back the lsu kickoff for td. lsu needed more time than 56 seconds to score and this sec just kept adding more time to the game clock.
    7. we found out the names of those sec refs from the complete box scores available at the website of virtually every school and the names of the sec commissioner and rogers redding, the sec conference official in charge of football officiating.
    6. we found out the home addresses of everyone involved along with a list of their material possesions by paying for that information at intelius.com.
    7. obviously, we sent our game films which record every game from positions all over the fields and at different angles and 3 seasons ago to the sec commissioner and to rogers redding.
    8.the bone thrown our way was a 10/5/2009 press release from the sec stating that there was actually no basis for the celebration penalty against geogia.
    9. is that enough for us? hell, no. we will whack them all with civil rico lawsuits unless they agree to settlements before lawsuits are filed. all settlements will require the payment of significant damages, resignations at the end of the 2009 season, and no more crooked oficiating during the 2009 season.
    10. we are also not impresed, in any way, by the big 10 conference's alleged new no toleration rules since the big 10's delany and carollo and parry have been bringing in very large payoffs for many years for running the crooked officiating scams, along with counterparts from every single conference in the us. larry scott, the new pac 10 commissioner is proving to be an honest man. even though he got stuck with jim mulddoon and dave cutaia. who have been running the crooked officiating department at the pac 10 for many years.
    11. you have raised a key issue here.
    12. we congratulate you and suggest that you start mentioning the names of the crooked refs and tech reviewers, along with the names of those at the conference and ncaa levels who protect the crooked offiials.
    13. if you need actual game films instead of trying to work from pretty terrible tv feeds. just ask and we will supply them to you.
    14. it would also help if you read then ncaa rulebook for football officiating very carefuly so that you can point out out the specific ncaa rules, along with each film clip.
    15. you could name your new extra site dr. teusday since the game films analyses are not normally completed until very late monday night.
    you have a real winner in your dishonest officiating section if you do it correctly.
  10. G8RJEF
    34. Posted by G8RJEF Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:11 am EDT

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    As a Gator, the next best thing to a Florida win is a Georgia loss. That said, Cox made a terrific throw and AJ Green made an incredible catch for what looked like and should have been the winning score. Green's celebration was pure and honest, and throwing a flag on that was horrible. The make-up call later on LSU certainly didn't square the account. At best, it turned the last two possessions into a short field tie-breaker in a game that was not tied, and completely nullified 55 minutes of hard fought football. Protect the kids, but LET THE KIDS PLAY!!!!
  11. Roy Henry
    35. Posted by Roy Henry Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:54 am EDT

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    G8RJEF, as a diehard Georgia fan, I can appreciate your sentiments and hold fast to their converse. That being said, you simply don't get enough losses down there in Gainesville these days. :-) Congrats on that. You have one of the absolute best teams in the absolute toughest conference in the nation, and we both know what that means. I hope you can appreciate how much it pains me to say that.
    Of all the examples given in this article, it seems to me that the one most deserving of the attention is the Michigan upper cut. It was after a play, it was a blatant cheap shot, and as such, I can't see much difference between it and the sucker punch by the Oregon running back earlier in the year. Both actions received what was just: suspension. There is no place for that kind of nonsense. Deal with it promptly and you will set the tone for others. Rodriguez's temper tantrum and Michigan's subsequent threats against the Big Ten underscores how little class that school has, regardless of the hype it constantly, ad nauseaum, is trying to remind us of: "we have the Big House!" (with no room to actually sit comfortably in order to squeeze in those people); "we have the winningest record in all of college football!" (you wouldn't if you didn't count all those early wins against high school teams); "we're so much better than any other football team in the country!" (how's that Ohio State rivalry going?); etc etc etc. Perhaps I'm a bit sensitive as I live in Michigan these days, and have to deal with all the "Wal-Mart Wolverines" that plague this area. It makes me homesick for Florida fans, and that's REALLY saying something (no offense G8RJEF!).
    At the risk of sounding repetitious, the officiating around the nation just seems worse this season than in the past. I'm one of those rare fans that doesn't believe that every call made against your team is bogus, that many of them are justified and appropriate. However, even in the games where I don't have a dog in the fight (for example, the recent Michigan/Michigan State game), I was simply shaking my head in disbelief and yelling at the TV in disgust. The conferences need to step up their training of the referees and look for folks who are able to actually keep up with the speed of the game.
    Finally, I'll toss this out for thoughts and discussion: instant reply in college football seems to be working in a fantastic way. Might it be time to consider what MLB has done with its instant replay, and allow some of the truly subjective penalties (such as excessive celebration) be reviewed by a second party? It might prevent something like the Georgia/LSU debacle of this past weekend.
  12. David
    36. Posted by David Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:27 pm EDT

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    College Football *IS* the NFL Minor League so why not have the same rules and conditions. Big time college football is a business and should be treated as such.
  13. scooni
    37. Posted by scooni Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    you morons that think this sh it is okay are exactly that - morons. Only hit here that should not have been flagged was the Michigan St one, as the runner was not down.
    There is no reason that you cannot hit a player hard and not go to the frikking head. I am an OSU fan, i I even think Colemans shot was a cheap shot.
    Lastly - Rich Rod shows the amazing class he brings to michigan by saying a player that takes a jab at another players chin as a cheap shot shouldnt be suspended. Way to get such a class act at Michigan! A coach who thinks it is okay to take cheap shots and punch people on the football field!
  14. scooni
    38. Posted by scooni Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    you morons that think this sh it is okay are exactly that - morons. Only hit here that should not have been flagged was the Michigan St one, as the runner was not down.
    There is no reason that you cannot hit a player hard and not go to the frikking head. I am an OSU fan, i I even think Colemans shot was a cheap shot.
    Lastly - Rich Rod shows the amazing class he brings to michigan by saying a player that takes a jab at another players chin as a cheap shot shouldnt be suspended. Way to get such a class act at Michigan! A coach who thinks it is okay to take cheap shots and punch people on the football field!
  15. Mike S
    39. Posted by Mike S Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    I have played QB and WR in HS and college. And even I think the hitting penalties are a joke. You are taught (especially these days) that the proper tackling technique is to put your facemask into the runners chest. It isnt the "shoulder in the stomach and wrap the legs" anymore. Helmet in chest, explode through while grabbing the back of the jersey. It is impossible to purposely make sure you dont make direct contact with the opposing helmet.
    One of the reasons I signed on to play football and did so for 15 years is because it separated the kids in town. You had to be a tough guy to play football. You knew the risks involved and played anyway. It sounds barbaric, but if you dont want to risk serious injury, try baseball..
  16. Mike S
    40. Posted by Mike S Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Oh, and as far as celebrating. Some of you have to understand that celebrating and getting jacked up does a lot for the overall mood of the team. If I see one of my guys make a big play, get up and start screaming... I cant help but to be emotionally charged by it.
    I was college football from the early 90's back. Backflaps stickin out, cut jerseys showing stomach, reflective visors, following through on your tackles even if its near the sideline, helmet stickers, I'll even take mushroom cuts and high tops back. Just let us play the damn game.
  17. Dan
    41. Posted by Dan Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:27 pm EDT

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    The physical game and player/crowd emotion are the reasons I want to watch college football!!! Excessive celebration? If a guy wants to be a jackass and embarrass himself and his team (like pounding one's chest after a sack - although his team is being blown out), it should be his team that straightens him out....a good celebration on a good play should be encouraged!
    Protecting the players is a good thing, but most of the above calls are ridiculus. It wouldn't surpise me if future players will be afraid to tackle because of the potential for a penalty. If you don't want your guy getting creamed, then stop thowing the ball high across the middle!
  18. P
    42. Posted by P Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:45 pm EDT

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    some of these calls have been total BS, but let's not confuse College Football with that phony NFL crap.
    The NFL is for DOUCHEBAGS...in fact, all pro sports are for DOUCHEBAGS
  19. James G
    43. Posted by James G Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:42 am EDT

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    They are going way overboard. I agree that several years back things were getting out of control and I would yell at the fools through the TV to get over themselves but the celebrations of today are not overdone and do not deserve penalties. Most of those hits were clean as well- INTENTIONALLY going for the head is one thing but if you that Georgia hit was a good hit- nothing dirty AND you can tell the reciever was milking it for a flag.
  20. Bill S
    44. Posted by Bill S Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:59 am EDT

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    Coleman's shot, ducking his head with clear intent to spear, was suspension-worthy. The others, not so much.

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