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Or, college football does its best impression of the Soup Nazi.

There were far more controversial calls over the weekend, and even in Notre Dame's win over Washington, but the final play in South Bend is an interesting Rorschach test on one of the major themes of the early season. Specifically, did it cross your mind that the hit on the Huskies' D'Andre Goodwin might draw a flag?

Looks clean to me, but I know some Washington fans (predictably) thought a "helmet-to-helmet" flag should have been thrown on the Irish, and some not-so-biased observers agreed with them in the immediate aftermath. And then again, being the sort that doesn't recognize the possibility of any penalty except a facemask during the act of bring down a runner, earlier in the year I didn't think Reshad Jones' hit on Justin Blackmon at Oklahoma State was a penalty, either:

But it drew a flag, anyway. So, too, did Michigan State's Roderick Jenrette, flying to the ball Saturday to help bring down Michigan's Junior Hemingway:

It's not surprising that that call came in a Big Ten game, since -- per its preseason dictum -- the Big Ten has been ground zero for the unsportsmanlike hit. The conference felt duty-bound to suspend Michigan's Jonas Mouton for a game for delivering an uppercut to a Notre Dame lineman at the end of a play, even though (or maybe because) it didn't draw a flag in the game:

... which didn't sit well at all with Mouton's coach, Rich Rodriguez, who accepted the suspension but subsequently informed the Big Ten that "we will watch every Big Ten game very closely and every non-football act, a six-inch jab or anything that is not called for in the game of football, we’re going to ask that that person gets the same type of punishment that Jonas Mouton got." And so the conference has been doling out questionable suspensions at every possible opportunity in the meantime, namely on Purdue's Zach Reckman and Ohio State's Kurt Coleman:

Coaches Danny Hope and Jim Tressel, like Rodriguez, were understandably incensed that fairly routine misdemeanors -- worth a flag, probably, but a suspension? -- were being handled as felonies.

All of those calls are pretext to what really, really bothered me about the dual personal foul penalties on Georgia on LSU for excessive celebration after go-ahead touchdowns in the final two minutes, which have been so universally deplored in the subsequent 48 hours. It's not just that they were bad calls (they obviously were), or that they dramatically changed the outcome of the game (they didn't; Georgia may have had an argument on the latter point if it hadn't gotten the exact same bogus call on LSU seconds later). But they personified the over-the-top, ticky-tack trend that from my perspective has nearly ruined the NFL -- where officials seemingly have no discretion whatsoever to let slide a borderline crime that couldn't possibly warrant the subsequent punishment, sometimes radically altering the game in the process -- and that's slowly, steadily trickling down into the college game under the banner of "player safety." That's not really a banner you can argue with. But it is an inherently violent game, fundamentally requiring violent acts between the whistles, and especially in the process of making tackles. It's an inherently emotional game, especially when it dramatically turns in your team's favor in front of 80,000 people with less than two minutes to play. At some point, the emphasis on enforcing "sportsmanship" and "safety" can cross the line to penalizing and ultimately preventing a player from a) doing his job, and (just as importantly) b) enjoying his job when performed well, which was supposed to be the point, somewhere in there.

This is not a big complaint, but it is a complaint. Let the kids play football.

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  1. mikez34
    1. Posted by mikez34 Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    Agreed. I've been sick of all the calls in the NFL, and I'm very troubled that they are becoming so prevalent in the NCAA. It's football!! They are going to hit each other! The quarterback is a player too.
  2. Tim
    2. Posted by Tim Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    Hey, that last paragraph sounds like a microcosm of the current American take on crime, punishment, and policing.
    They're just teaching citizens what to prepare for in the real world!
  3. bigboo's bro
    3. Posted by bigboo's bro Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:25 pm EDT

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    Three cheers for those excessive celebration penalties. They should give them out on every play when a player "celebrates". I am sick and tired of seeing some moron strutting after every run of the mill tackle, first down reception, etc. If they want to prance and pose, let them see if they can get runway modeling jobs.
  4. Joshgator
    4. Posted by Joshgator Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    Matt, I agree with you on this. The excessive celebration penalty needs to be fixed. It also needs to be enforced fairly. You forgot to mention one of the most egregious occurrences this season in the UF-Tennessee game in which Howard (the UF player) dropped the Tennessee player for an 8 yard loss, got up, and "rolled his arms" and was flagged for excessive celebration. This led to Tennessee continuing their drive and getting their only TD of the game. In addition, on the very next UF drive, a Tennessee player dropped the UF player for a loss, got up, thumped his chest and started repeatedly pumping his fist in the air and then celebrated for a while with his teammates. Guess what? NO FLAGS!!!!!! Luckily, this did not affect the outcome of the game; however, it easily could have as it helped Tennessee get within 10 points and also stopped a UF drive which could have been more points. If Tennessee had come back and won it, then whoa nelly! As it is, people now are saying that UF "barely eeked out a victory over Tennessee" or that UF was not impressive when in fact UF had been winning 23-6 and could easily have scored more points. It is one thing to taunt a player. That is unsportsmanlike. However, to celebrate is natural. The ref-Nazis are taking all the joy out of CFL. These are 18-22 year old kids who are playing their hearts out (and trying to impress their coaches and scouts for NFL teams to get their big break). Surely they would be expected to have some emotional reaction. They are not robots. These bogus calls are absolutely ridiculous!
  5. rugman777
    5. Posted by rugman777 Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Okay, the Jenrette call was complete bull [profane], but the ND-Wash call would have had some merit given that BOTH defenders hit the receiver helmet-to-helmet and, with some exceptions (Tebow PBUH), you don't get knocked unconscious by accident. It's tough to say, since he was clearly leading with his shoulder, which I guess makes the HtH incidental contact?
  6. Warm Apple Pie
    6. Posted by Warm Apple Pie Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    My run down:
    The Washington call, bad, that was leading with the helmet at the other guy's head. That's not how I was taught to tackle, not how anyone is taught to tackle. It's a cheap shot and should have been called.
    Georgia-Okie St. Bad call. That was the shoulder, and he got the head, but got it clean.
    Michigan-Michigan St. Gimmie a break. Horrible call. Ball is in play and yeah he gets teed off on, but that was a great tackle.
    Michigan-ND. Uppercut, cheap shot. Rodriguez should have suspended him and he's complaining that the conference did it? Forget it.
    Purdue-Northern. The forearm smash. Cheap Shot, Purdue should have sat the guy for a game.
    Illinois-Ohio State. Spearing, helmet to helmet spearing. Oh yeah that got a flag, and should have.
    Some bad, some good. That's refs. But lowering your head and leading with it is going to get called and should.
  7. Mittens
    7. Posted by Mittens Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:00 pm EDT

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    As a UGA fan, I've never had so many highs and lows during such a short span while watching a game.
    That call was awful and heart-breaking. I understand the need for the excessive celebration penalty, but it needs to be a clear cut uncalled for situation. These refs have brains, they need to use them.
  8. Heath
    8. Posted by Heath Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:04 pm EDT

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    Josh you are exactly right. Those two identical situations were just minutes apart. One got a flag the other did not. Unbelievable!
  9. ess-eee-seee
    9. Posted by ess-eee-seee Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:12 pm EDT

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    I don't understand why Michigan is complaining. Their player deserved the suspension. He threw a punch below a player's facemask. A decent person would apologize for the conduct and avow that such things are not tolerated within the program.
    The Wolverines are also the beneficiary of by far the most egregious officiating error of the three 15 yard calls/no calls. That potentially game altering call was bad enough that the officials should be privately reprimanded.
    As for the helmet to helmets, ND's is a much clearer violation than UGa's. Jones hits the WR below the helmet, while the Irish defenders make clear helmet contact. When a fully extended WR has his helmet land two yards away and lies dazed on the turf, that is pretty much a textbook example.
    I am not a fan of any of the four SEC teams brought up in this conversation, but it seems like the most obvious violation of the unsportsmanlike rule was the woofing by the Tennessee DL in the Swamp, which is the only one not penalized. The player was clearly drawing attention to himself at the expense of the Florida ball carrier, while UGa and LSU players both seemed to be merely reacting naturally to scores each believed had won the game.
    I don't want to see normal expressions of emotions penalized, but I am glad CFB is tougher on taunting than the NFL. Whenever I watch an NFL game, I see two or three instances a game of preening that makes me wish an opposing player would tackle the guy midcelebration, even if the player is in the endzone (or made a 2nd down tackle after a 4 yard gain). Many NFL players have no concept of respecting the opponent or the sport, and I don't want to see that leak down into the college game.
  10. smorris291
    10. Posted by smorris291 Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:17 pm EDT

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    The ND-UW officials were terrible. If that hadn't been the last play of an Irish victory, there would have certainly been a flag...there were actually 2 helmet to helmet hits on the play, and the player's helmet comes off.
    Earlier UW had a TD ruled down at the 1 on replay, then they don't even bother replaying Hughes 2pt conversion run, when A) Hughes was clearly down before the ball crossed the goal line, and B) Hughes was virtually carried to the end zone by his blockers. And cheering him on were the same people who thought USC's "Bush Push" TD was illegal...
    Add that to the other goings on (like the ridiculous celebration penalties for UGA/LSU), and it was a really bad day of officiating...
  11. Daniel H
    11. Posted by Daniel H Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:24 pm EDT

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    Here's a novel concept. How about players actually showing some humility and sportsmanship instead of "celebrating themselves" by doing asinine nonsense like pounding their own chests or flopping all over the ground like they've just been tasered when they make a good play. It's called class, but then again, having class is no longer part of some sub-cultures, or some sports.
  12. John McCarron
    12. Posted by John McCarron Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:36 pm EDT

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    Yes, I'm sure if you were an 18-23 year old playing in front of 80,000 people, you would be stoically walking back to the huddle after every big play. That is not class, that is being a robot.
  13. D.N. Nation
    13. Posted by D.N. Nation Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:39 pm EDT

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    I'm absolutely positive that Tim Tebow will be flagged this Saturday every time he does the Chomp. Absolutely, 100% positive. Yup.
  14. Daniel H
    14. Posted by Daniel H Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:58 pm EDT

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    John...you must be under 30 and part of the "it's all about me generation"....I referred to ".celebrating themselves", not celebrating in general. Huge difference. Celebrating means joy, celebrating yourself means pompous low class arrogance learned from watching the pros. If you watched the punks for both teams..they weren't celebrating their touchdowns with their teammates. In fact, they both broke away from their team mates to better isolate themselves in their moment of glory (as if nobody else played a role in the touchdown).anyway..they both broke away to prance alone and yell like King Kong in front of the "opposing" fans. Get it? They are ruining the game.
  15. cantcatchuf
    15. Posted by cantcatchuf Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:50 pm EDT

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    Daniel, while I understand some of your concern, the "they are ruining" the game is a bit of a hyperbole. John has a point, and it is foolish to think that 18 year olds of today are any less excitable than those of twenty, fifty, or five hundred years ago. AJ Greene did not pull a 1980s Dallas Cowboys-style stunt - he mildly pounded his chest while covered by his teammates. If that personifies the ruination of a game to you, a game that is both a team and an individual sport, one that feeds off of the crowd's excitement and passion, then perhaps you need to find a new sport to watch. I'd suggest golf (but look away whenever Tiger pumps his fist).
  16. m
    16. Posted by m Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:20 pm EDT

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    This is stupid. Are you people really so clueless?
    The rule is no spearing. So helmet to helmet contact can happen if you are leading with your shoulder.
    1. This is what happened in the ND-UW game. The video you have posted doesn't show the full replay that ran on NBC, but the commentators (one a USC grad) both agreed that ND made clean hits. The full replay that NBC ran shows a view from behind the play and its clear the strong safety is leading with his left shoulder, which initiates contact. That contact causes the UW player to move forward into the helmet of the other ND player.
    2. This wasn't the case in the Georgia - Oklahoma State game where the kid is clearly leading his hit with his helmet.
    Overall, I'd say the refereeing this season has been some of the worst (ie most inconsistent) Ive seen in college football for a number of seasons.
  17. H
    17. Posted by H Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:00 pm EDT

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    The role of the refs is to keep control of the game so that no one gets un-fair advantage or is dangerously injuryed( through illegal hits etc). What is the purpose of subjective 15 yard celebration penalties ? Why not go to 5 yard delay of game penalties for excessive celebration that slows down the game. Celebration should be a part of College Football!!
  18. yaitsmedontyakno
    18. Posted by yaitsmedontyakno Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    That flag for a late hit on Jenrette was complete bull. I was at the game myself and there was no whistle before he made the hit. The flag came from about 20 yards away from the hit itself and not from the Ref who was standing not 3 yards behind the play.
  19. Ian
    19. Posted by Ian Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:05 am EDT

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    just look at UW-BYU last year for everything that's wrong with these calls. cost UW a potential win in a winless season, tons of morale, and who knows what else in recruiting. but something can be said for it getting willingham fired...
  20. Michael K
    20. Posted by Michael K Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:55 am EDT

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    Doc, I realize this will come off as homerish, but watch the video of the ND/Wash hit that Orson posted on EDSBS. It shows pretty clearly that there was no helmet-to-helmet contact.
  21. Hotrod
    21. Posted by Hotrod Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:19 am EDT

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    Let them play football. Back when I played I was taught to lower the head and led with the helmet. The way rules are going they are all going to be playing flag football before it is over.
  22. bobby
    22. Posted by bobby Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:06 am EDT

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    bad flags try the miami player that got stomped on by ok kicker while he was on the ground and then a 15 yard plenlity for not rolling out of the way fast enough
  23. Tommys
    23. Posted by Tommys Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:21 am EDT

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    The helmet to helmet "flag" in the ND-UW game is a non-issue. What you see, when reviewing the video, is the first hit sending the receiver the opposite direction. The receiver's helmet goes into the helmet of No. 22... who was moving into the guy and planning to push/slam the receiver with both arms extended.
    The non flag was the right call, IMHO

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