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Always in thrall to ghosts, echoes and other graying traditions, Notre Dame is reaching waaaay back with an eye to reviving one of its most storied customs -- yearly games at Yankee Stadium, preferably against its old war-era rival from down the road in West Point:

Some significant college football games were played at Yankee Stadium, many involving Notre Dame. [ND athletic director] Jack Swarbrick said the rich history of Notre Dame and Army playing at the Stadium would make the Black Knights a preferred opponent.

"It would be of great historical significance for us if it would be Army," Swarbrick said. He added: "We would love that. Some of the most significant games in the history of college football involve those two schools and Yankee Stadium."

Getting headlines in a spanking new facility in the world's largest market aren't factoring into the decision, we're sure. But whether or not it's against Army or another adventurous East Coast outfit, an Irish return to the Bronx gets the Dr. Saturday stamp of approval, if only because the combination of the general public's widespread, virulent hatreds for the Yankees and Notre Dame in one place could become a source of clean, renewable energy. (And who knows? The locals might even be able to afford a seat for a change.)

We were also amused to note that the 1944 game excerpted above seems to have been the beginning of the end for Army-Notre Dame, a longstanding rivalry that met every November in the Bronx from 1923-46 (save one-year stopovers in Manhattan in 1924 and Chicago in 1930). By '44, the Irish had won 10 of 12 games in the series since 1931, with two ties and no defeats. But Army, fortified with the only able bodies remaining on the continent at the height of World War II, blew the Irish out two years in a row in 1944-45, leading up to the legendary 0-0 tie in 1946 and an abrupt 10-year hiatus in the series until 1957, long after the academy had fallen from its war-era perch.

So if the Irish are looking for an opportune moment to wake up these particular echoes, this would be an excellent chance -- Army hasn't posted a winning record since 1996, and hasn't won a bowl game since 1985.

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  1. Gary
    1. Posted by Gary Thu May 21, 2009 2:19 pm EDT

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    It would be just like ND to take on a pattycake like Army,they play Nevada,UConn,Navy,Purdue ,Stanford,and powerhouse Washington st.. wow i'm really impressed about the quality teams this independent school takes on.The only school that is any good is USC and you'll get clobbered by them,couldn't happen to a more deserving team. You probably break rules to get one of the top recruiting classes in the nation every year and you still can't break a ten win season. Knute, Gipper,and the Four horseman are the only memories left at South Bend. You are college footballs version of NIT champions CCNY were are they now? SEC rules!!
  2. Phocion
    2. Posted by Phocion Thu May 21, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    ND playing in NYC is a good idea, regardless of who they play.
    And, while ND's schedule has looked rather sad in recent years, in the recent past ND has scheduled home and homes with such opponents as Ohio State, Penn State, and Texas. Yes, USC is the best team on their schedule but why not compare the schedules of those two teams...ND usually had dates with Michigan and Mich State on their card as well as one of the above mentioned teams and USC. USC got Notre Dame, one other decent Non-Conf opponent and then what? A bunch of Pac-10 cream puffs. SC spent the better part of 15 years in the wild posting lowly 5 & 6 wins seasons as recently as 2002 and 2001...and a 3 win gem of their own in 1991.
  3. El Tooter Rooterino
    3. Posted by El Tooter Rooterino Thu May 21, 2009 5:28 pm EDT

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    4th... ND sucks
  4. Jason B
    4. Posted by Jason B Thu May 21, 2009 5:28 pm EDT

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    Great idea. Roll Tide!
  5. 8izenuff
    5. Posted by 8izenuff Thu May 21, 2009 5:31 pm EDT

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    I agree with the great idea of the Irish playing in Yankee Stadium. However who would pay the ungodly amount of money to watch them play St. Mary of the Poor, Dumb, Deaf, and Blind? NOT ME!! I am not a true Irish fan but do love the idea of bring back some past history. ND Athletic Direcor needs to schedule someone that would bring in a great TV audience and a game that would be worth PAYING to watch. The bad thing is will anyone pay to watch the Irish??!!?
  6. d-no
    6. Posted by d-no Thu May 21, 2009 5:31 pm EDT

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    Maybe Notre Dame should be more interested in resurrecting the tradition of fielding a good team before they try to force their fat a$$ pig of coach on New York.
  7. Demetric M
    7. Posted by Demetric M Thu May 21, 2009 5:32 pm EDT

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    Notre Dame needs to win games instead of cheap promotions to stay in the news. In all fairness you talk about living in past glory...they haven't been good since the Flintstone and Rubble era!
  8. one-hole johnny
    8. Posted by one-hole johnny Thu May 21, 2009 5:33 pm EDT

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    charlie weis has the biggest gunt in college footabll. I mean imagine sitting next to him on a plane and having to deal with the overflow.
  9. mike
    9. Posted by mike Thu May 21, 2009 5:33 pm EDT

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    WHO CARES.....There program su c ks! They should move them down to Division II or a strong powder puff league. So over rated!
  10. MandM Inc
    10. Posted by MandM Inc Thu May 21, 2009 5:39 pm EDT

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    ND has obviously given up on being a true, modern football power.
    Reaching for something like this to "Wake up the echoes" is a sign of desperation- or capitulation.
    They are nowhere near competing for a national title and scheduling teams like Army for showcase games is a joke.
  11. Chrispy
    11. Posted by Chrispy Thu May 21, 2009 5:39 pm EDT

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    Do it!!!!!!!!!!
  12. craig
    12. Posted by craig Thu May 21, 2009 5:42 pm EDT

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    Do you think Pres. Obama would attend?
  13. frank
    13. Posted by frank Thu May 21, 2009 5:42 pm EDT

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    Ya like the SEC doesnt play cupcakes, lets see for 2009 the SEC has Army, Middle Tenn st, Charl. So, LA tech, Troy, UT Chatt, North Texas, I could go on, every team has easy teams on their schedule every year. ND has half as many National Championships as the whole SEC put together, it has been a while since the last but they are up and coming and will win more titles.
  14. Miller Time
    14. Posted by Miller Time Thu May 21, 2009 5:44 pm EDT

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    anything 4 a buck....Go BUCKS, O-H
  15. Jason
    15. Posted by Jason Thu May 21, 2009 5:45 pm EDT

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    NO. They will not play at Yankee Stadium.We;;, if they are then they have to pay for it.
  16. Jason
    16. Posted by Jason Thu May 21, 2009 5:46 pm EDT

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    Rodney is the better coach!!!!!!
  17. peter
    17. Posted by peter Thu May 21, 2009 5:46 pm EDT

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    they will do enything to get in spotlight..forget it clowns..you guy's dont deserve it!..go away! and stay out of the sports media!!!
  18. Robb J
    18. Posted by Robb J Thu May 21, 2009 5:48 pm EDT

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    3.
    Haha PAC-10 teams cream puffs eh? 5-0 in bowl games aint enough proof for you. And you would go back 15 years to when your program was good. It's about the now, and Notre Dame sucks balls. They schedule the cream puff opponents and still lose almost half their games if not more. It's only a matter of time before East Coast bias goes out the window.
  19. Kevin S
    19. Posted by Kevin S Thu May 21, 2009 5:48 pm EDT

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    Has anyone here watched a ND game in the past 2 years? Only the promise of Charlie Weiss going on Biggest Loser will make anyone want to watch the IRISH this year. If they respect and tv time they should join a confrence and quit acting like their joke of a program is the best of the best. In modern day you dont have a tv contract to get on TV. Join the big 10 or schedule every top 10 team you can. Maybe then you will get some ratings.
  20. corndog10565
    20. Posted by corndog10565 Thu May 21, 2009 5:51 pm EDT

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    one hole johnny, you're talking about charlie's gunt & fupa waaaayyy too much.....it sounds to me like you might have a secret crush??
  21. Jon S
    21. Posted by Jon S Thu May 21, 2009 5:52 pm EDT

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    For this idea to pay off for both Yankee Stadium Brass and ND, ND would have to schedule a team along the lines of USC, FLORIDA, TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, GEORGIA, ETC. THE ONLY ISSUE IS THAT A TEAM OF THE CALIBER OF THE SCHOOLS I LISTED WOULD PROBALY DECLINE THE INVITE.
  22. Bob M
    22. Posted by Bob M Thu May 21, 2009 5:55 pm EDT

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    Alabama, the Notre Dame of the south.
  23. corndog10565
    23. Posted by corndog10565 Thu May 21, 2009 5:56 pm EDT

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    get off the fluff scheduling, because everybody does it. Until we have a playoff, it's been the only way to make to the B lows C ock S eries championship

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