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There's been a lot of talk the last couple years about the Big Ten's national "image problem," and whether it exists after three very bad bowl seasons. Rhetorically, maybe, but on paper, it's hard to argue disrespect when the conference can still put a pair of teams in everybody's top-10 going into the year -- especially when both of those frontrunners, Ohio State and Penn State, both have so many holes to fill. It's no diss to drop the league bellwethers slightly off the national radar when they're both so riddled by attrition.

I don't like the conference wars. But I do know that when a conference with no apparent national contenders is called out en masse for lame scheduling by national headlines, as the Big Ten's "little five" were this week during ESPN's schedule-analyzin' extravaganza, that is not a P.R. victory:

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1. The little five
Indiana, Michigan, Northwestern, Penn State and Wisconsin hail from the Big Ten, but you wouldn't know it by glancing at their nonconference schedules. Combined, they play five FCS opponents, five smaller directional schools and only three opponents from BCS conferences (and that includes Syracuse twice). The five schools combined play only four non-Big Ten road games, and Michigan and Penn State don't play a single nonconference game away from home. ... No wonder Penn State coach Joe Paterno didn't want Notre Dame in the Big Ten. Why would he want to give up playing Akron, Syracuse, Temple and FCS opponent Eastern Illinois at home?

Dude: Burn. And, without conferring with Mark Schlabach, I assume the only games that kept the rest of the conference out of his walk of shame are these:

Sept. 5: Illinois vs. Missouri (in St. Louis)
Sept. 12: Southern Cal at Ohio State
Sept. 12: Purdue at Oregon
Sept. 19: Michigan State at Notre Dame
Sept. 19: Arizona at Iowa
Sept. 19: California at Minnesota
Sept. 26: Notre Dame at Purdue
Nov. 25: Illinois at Cincinnati

It's entirely possible that Illinois, Michigan State or Iowa will mount a stunning charge to the conference title, in which case wins over fringe top-25 outfits like Missouri, Cincinnati, Notre Dame or Arizona might ultimately serve them well in the polls and punditry. But realistically, with Michigan seemingly down for the count for another year, there are two contenders carrying the banner for the Big Ten nationally, and one of them -- Penn State -- has no claim to stake outside of the conference barring an all-time, miracle turnaround at Syracuse (which would be written off for occurring in the wide-open Big East, anyway). The Lions' "big game," their potential claim to national prowess, is Ohio State on Nov. 7. Fair or not, even if it's only based on perception, the top teams from the SEC and Big 12 have multiple shots at bagging big game within the conference, with the championship showdowns at the end to boot. The only really impressive head PSU can conceivably bring to the BCS belongs to Brutus.

And if that head is already bloodied by USC? How will Penn State or Ohio State offset that? With wins over Iowa? Michigan State? Who beat ... Arizona and Notre Dame?

I thought the Buckeye-Trojan tilt in the Coliseum last year was borderline cataclysmic for repudiating Ohio State's own reputation for big-game flops, which was cemented all too decisively in that disaster (and later in the Fiesta Bowl loss to Texas). Once they were humiliated on that stage, the Bucks had no chance of recovering a shot at the national championship. This year, minus almost everyone who touched the ball last year on offense and three draft picks from the defense, they don't have the same lofty expectations for themselves. Barring another surprise this year on the order of Oregon State's run following its loss to Penn State last year, I think it will be hard for the entire conference to recover from another Trojan romp in Columbus.

What the presumptive heavy hitters in this conference really need is another heavy hitter, and without another marquee out-of-conference game to boost teams like Illinois and Iowa on the fringes, USC is it. If the Buckeyes strike out again, it's going to be hard to prove -- for this year, anyway -- that the Big Ten is really the big leagues.

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  1. zibby
    1. Posted by zibby Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42 pm EDT

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    I'm not sure when the contract with Northwestern was signed, but the contract with Penn State was signed when Syracuse was still somewhat respectable. And SU and tPSU played regularly when they were both independent. I don't it's fair to bash tPSU for playing SU.
    And Northwestern is Northwestern. No game against any other BCS conference team or quality non-BCS conference team is a gimme for them.
  2. bluelightning11
    2. Posted by bluelightning11 Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:48 pm EDT

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    Last year, Penn St. went out and got Oregon St. on its schedule late in the process once they realized Syracuse would be terrible. This year, nothing, meaning criticism. As least get rid of the FCS team and make it look a little less embarrassing.
  3. Brett W
    3. Posted by Brett W Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:52 pm EDT

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    We need an NCAA tournament in college football at the end of the year, point blank. So we can see whose who on the field and not leave it up to the media and others to decide. It's like the dark ages in college football with no head to head playoffs. How can Utah go undefeated and beat Alabama and not have a right at a shot to take home the National Championship? That's un American!
  4. ConnGator
    4. Posted by ConnGator Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    We need cross-conference smackdowns. Use the 12th game to match up the Big Televen with 11 of the SEC or Big 12. Pair them by consensus preseason ranking and have the same teams match up two years in a row (home and home).
    Way better than playing another cupcake. Think of the excitement!
  5. Rodeo Romper
    5. Posted by Rodeo Romper Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:40 pm EDT

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    Little late to the game on this piece, but does the Navy-OSU game qualify as a rep-builder for the Big Ten? I mean, Navy is no laughingstock and I'm startlingly anxious to see how the (relatively) greenhorn tOSU defense handles the triple option fun of the Mids.
  6. Alaska Hokie
    6. Posted by Alaska Hokie Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:06 pm EDT

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    Rodeo Romper, I love to watch Navy play, but they're equivalent to a MAC team at best. A reputation builder game is one where your opponent has a prestige and talent level equal or greater to your own at the time the game is played.
  7. CuseFanInSoCal
    7. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:44 pm EDT

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    zibby, if somewhat respectable means 'a team that was hanging around just above .500 more often than not', that's true. But we were pretty clearly in the downslide that would get coach P fired, even if 2002 was an uncharacteristic good season.
    Still, for all I'm in favor of ragging on Penn State's schedule, anyone claiming playing ND would be an upgrade over playing us might note the results on the field when we played the last time...
  8. Football Fan
    8. Posted by Football Fan Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:54 am EDT

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    This post is such a two-faced piece of trash. Hinton says "I don't like the conference wars" then engages in anti-Big Ten propaganda for the remainder of his article. The quote from Schlabach is accurate, he does rank the "little five" as the worst schedules, but at #2, he has all the SEC title contenders. Apparently having Northwestern play weak non-conf. teams is a travesty, while "national title contenders" from the SEC playing glorified high school teams is no problem. But, of course its ok, because Hinton is part of the machine that creates the self-fulfilling prophecy of the SEC. If you keep saying how good they are over and over, then simply playing each other proves how good they are because every week they have either won or lost to a world-class team. And if you keep saying how bad the Big Ten is, then they can never dig their way out of that hole because 'so what if Penn State beats the Big Ten, all those teams are terrible so Penn State is terrible too!' Next, Hinton describes Ohio State's notorious "big game flops", another CFB-meme that Yahoo propagates as well as anyone else. What are Ohio State's "big game flops"? Arguably, the NC game in 06 against Florida. In 07, they weren't favored to beat LSU and they didn't. Is that a flop? In 08 they weren't favored to beat USC, and they lost bad, just like any other top team playing USC at home. Is that a flop? In the Fiesta, they were supposed to get laughed off the field, and it took a miraculous drive (and 4th down spot) in the final minutes by a Heisman candidate playing on a team that many felt should have been playing for the NC. Is losing a close, exciting game at the last minute to maybe the best team in the country a flop? According to Hinton it is. So, I guess it's settled, Ohio State flops in big games, but wait, didn't they win TWO #1 vs. #2 matchups in 06? Yes, they did. Don't they have a winning record in BCS bowls? Yes, they do. Haven't they dominated the biggest rivalry in sports lately, through UM's good times and bad, unlike any other team with a major rivalry game? Yes, they have. But apparently they always flop in big games. OSU plays in A LOT of big games, lately playing in the biggest non-conf. game of the year regularly, as well as playing in BCS bowls nearly every year. So, are they expected to always win, or is there a double standard for OSU? Where is the constant talk of how Oklahoma constantly flops in big games, since they are 2-5 in BCS games, unlike OSU's 4-3? How about talk of Alabama's big game flops, since they lost to Florida as #1, then got hammered by UTAH! in the BCS? VaTech is 0-3 in BCS bowls. Why aren't they epic chokers like Ohio State? FSU is 1-5. I could go on. Until the Big Ten wins all its non-conf games and all its bowl games for at least 5 years in row, I suppose this will continue, but its about time these Yahoo bloggers make some effort to represent the truth rather than keep promoting this ridiculous fallacy because its easier than going against the tide. Now that ESPN has a very strong monetary interest in seeing the SEC at the top, it would be nice for Yahoo and other sport outlets to strive for unbiased reporting, even if it is only for something is trivial is CFB.
  9. ...
    9. Posted by ... Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:26 am EDT

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    can you really blame indiana and northwestern for having those schedules, even michigan is understandable considering they are in full on rebuilding mode
  10. beanie
    10. Posted by beanie Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:59 am EDT

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    Could have beaten a texas team that was pretty good last year and they did beat the long horns the previous time. But nobody ever brings that up.
  11. Justin B
    11. Posted by Justin B Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    Why is everyone from PSU and OSU taking this to heart? ALL of the Big Ten(11) has a disgraceful schedule, and they've been doing it for a few years. Do you think someone like Michigan or Minnesota would take on Nebraska, or Florida? He!l no. The whole conference is scared of outside competition, and prefer the cupcake games... all the while claiming they're still "relevant".
    It's as easy as looking at their bowl records. they're a combined 4-11 in two years (1-6 in '08). For kicks, I'm going to throw UM's losses to Utah and App. St., because that signifies what's wrong with, and the Karmic effect, of the Big Ten(11)'s mission statement. They pretend to have "contenders", but it's all smoke and mirrors put up by the BCS machine.
    The Big Ten(11) is dead set against a playoff. How can they lie about "prestige" and ""national title hopes" when they would, according to the averages, get their @sses handed to them in the first two rounds? It'd be hard to justify the talk when no one would make it to the semifinals.
  12. Seth C
    12. Posted by Seth C Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:06 pm EDT

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    Penn State needs to quit scheduling home gimme games. I went to the Coastal Carolina game last year and what a complete waste of money and time. Great football environment as usual, but worst game to view live. I'll take a loss to great game/team any day over walloping and getting no credit over weaker D-II schools. Speaks volume coming from a die hard PSU fan like myself.
    College football at the D-I level has been diverging for the past decade anyways, teams like OSU, USC, Florida, Texas and Oklahoma are taking away the most blue chip recruits, its not as even as it once was in the past. Teams are able to reload better, while others below will have a great team once or twice a decade then take years to rebuild another.
  13. Seth C
    13. Posted by Seth C Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:20 pm EDT

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    Justin B, every conference is soft (minus the SEC) past the 3-4 dominating schools in its conference. Judging by the bowl season is bias as all hell. I'll admit everything the Big Ten does justifies itself as sidestepping competition, but its no where inferior to the Big East, ACC or the Pac-10. The only reason that its blown out of proportion was due to OSU getting back to back championship runs that they've should've never been in. Though OSU is still a dangerous team that can keep up with anybody in the nation. PSU could say the same to a certain extent.
  14. Rudy
    14. Posted by Rudy Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:43 pm EDT

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    Look, the truth of the matter is that the Big 10 (Big Soft), is falling off. I make this statement because I've been to the last 5 or 6 rosebowl games and I have had the pleasure of seeing teams (USC/Texas) "STOMP" the you know what out of Big 10 teams. I've seen Michigan go down 3 times, Illinois once, and Pen State once. The proof is in the pudding my friends. Heck I even had the pleasure of watching OHIO loose to SC at the Coliseum, (ok, I didn't go to that, I had to sell my ticket to take an exam and watched it on TiVo.) LOL....but still, You can't erase the blemishes. I am a big college football fan, I would love to see more big non-conference match ups throughout the entire season but, universities are discouraged to taking on big games/challenges because a better record gets you into a better BCS/ bowl games. I know the BCS doesn't discourage big time games, but the system does and thats why we need play offs!!!!
  15. Hmmm.......... youll have to ask
    15. Posted by Hmmm.......... youll have to ask Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:23 pm EDT

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    I'd still love to see those warm weather teams come play ball up in Big 10 country during late fall/early winter. USC plays a home game every time they're in the Rose Bowl.(The Rose Bowl is closer to USC then it is to UCLA) And the majority of those Big Bowl games seem to take place around those Florida schools too.(Anyone that doesn't think home field advantage plays a large part in college football probably doesn't watch the games all too closely) The Big Ten has to take responsibility for some pretty huge big game blunders for the last couple of years. And their bowl record last year was atrocious. But it would be nice to have a completely level playing field just for one year. If a playoff ever does get implemented, I sure hope that's taken into consideration.
  16. 45 twice
    16. Posted by 45 twice Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    All of you SEC and PAC ten fans and ESPN homers who are so biased and blind need to look at the past schedules of your so called elite teams.I think you will be suprised at who they have played.I know it will never happen,but let the warm weather teams come play in Columbus,Ann Arbor or Happy Valley in January,Then we will be able to call it fair.But who wants to come North in Jan to watch in the cold when they could be down South working on their tan.It is all about the money.Everybody jump on the Mark May hate machine.If someone has a problem with a student athlete in the Big Ten god forbid.But if it is an SEC OR Pac ten kid then well lets sweep it under the rug.I am sick of ESPN.GO BIG TEN
  17. Joshgator
    17. Posted by Joshgator Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:15 pm EDT

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    15. Posted by Hmmm.......... youll have to ask Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:23 pm EDT Report Abuse
    I'd still love to see those warm weather teams come play ball up in Big 10 country during late fall/early winter. USC plays a home game every time they're in the Rose Bowl.(The Rose Bowl is closer to USC then it is to UCLA) And the majority of those Big Bowl games seem to take place around those Florida schools too.(Anyone that doesn't think home field advantage plays a large part in college football probably doesn't watch the games all too closely)
    Waaaahhhh Waaaahhhh. Another whiny brat. Hmm.... you state that the big bowl games take place around the Florida schools. Just a little FYI for you whiny Tiny Televeners: Florida beat the snot out of Ohio State IN ARIZONA which is closer to Columbus, Ohio (approximately 1920 miles) than it is to Gainesville, Florida (approximately 2050 miles). You want to make some more excuses for why you got your butts kicked? What next...are you going to blame it on the full moon, or maybe the color of Florida's jerseys gave them an unfair advantage over the color of Ohio State's jerseys, or maybe...just maybe...it is because Florida was the BETTER TEAM!!!! Just admit it, deal with it, and stop whining so much that the rest of us want to regurgitate. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!! UF could have played in Arizona, or even Columbus, OH and they still would have beaten the pants off of OSU. Stop blaming your deficiencies on everything else. Be a man and take responsibility. They were not the better team when they played UF. They were not the better team when they played LSU, USC, Penn State, or even Texas (although I still think that Texas is lucky to have won that game...but that doesn't necessarily mean that OSU is that great, just that Texas was overrated). Grow a pair...be a man....and stop your whining. It is disgusting!
  18. Bryan S
    18. Posted by Bryan S Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:52 pm EDT

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    I am a Buckeye fan. And I cannot excuse this awful scheduling. The conference as a whole is fading away. I still love my Buckeyes and think that we can take it to the Top 10 on a good day. Same with Penn State. But overall the Big Ten is second class at the moment. Hopefully the conference will realize that and get off its duff.

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