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The ACC's taken a lot of heat lately -- this is what happens when a league has no offense and allows Wake Forest to come from nowhere to win a rain-soaked, 9-6 championship game one season, then makes empty seats grow for its showcase game of the year the next ...

And, yes, the conference hit rock bottom after a terrible opening weekend, thanks to flops by alleged division powers Clemson and Virginia Tech and disinterested, sick puppy routines by N.C. State and Virginia on national television. We all get it: the ACC has some image problems.

But does the Atlanta Journal-Constitution think the little conference that could is so hopeless, so desperate for any win at all against the mighty SEC, that Georgia Tech has to claim "ACC Pride" against Mississippi State? The same Mississippi State that's 14 games under .500 and en route to its seventh losing season in eight years? The Bulldogs that have failed to break the top hundred in total offense every year of Sylvester Croom's tenure, and barely scratched their way into the "Also Receiving Votes" section of the polls during last year's turnover-fueled "breakthrough"? That have carried the SEC flag this year by losing to Louisiana Tech and netting a hilariously meager safety-via-penalty in a loss to Auburn that reached near-Medusa levels of unwatchability?

Actually, yeah. The AJC does think the ACC is that desperate -- and lucky for its storyline-hungry beat writers, so do the Jackets themselves:

“Especially watching ESPN and stuff, all that talk about the SEC and how great the SEC is” grows tiresome, junior A-back Greg Smith said last week. “When next week comes, we’re definitely going to be focused on getting some respect for the ACC.”
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Greg Smith, who was recruited by Georgia but not offered a scholarship, said that reality adds to the animosity.

“Most of the guys are from the Southeast,” said Smith, who is from Stone Mountain. “The ones that weren’t recruited by SEC schools will definitely have a chip on their shoulder and go out and play a little bit harder against those teams, to show that we belong with the best in the nation.”
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See where the ridiculous Conference Wars have left us, in a world where "Snubbed by Georgia" can be transmogrified into the equivalent of "Snubbed by Mississippi State," and players at a program that's been to eleven straight bowl games can have "a chip on their shoulder," at home, against one of the losingest major outfits in the country. You know, to prove they "belong with the best in the nation."

Tech is a 7.5-point favorite, by the way. I dunno if the Jackets can cover that -- can they manage to put a touchdown and a field goal on the board against a mighty SEC defense? Who do the oddsmakers think they're dealing with here -- Louisiana Tech?

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  1. gtne91
    1. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    Sagarin Conference rankings this week (central mean)
    1. SEC 81.27
    2. B12 78.84
    3. P10 77.09
    4. B11 76.96
    5. ACC 76.83
    6. BE 73.91
    The ACC is closer to the B12 than they are the Big East.
  2. gtne91
    2. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    For what is worth, the Georgia Tech-Wake Forest game drew much better than VT-BC.
  3. Harold B
    3. Posted by Harold B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    Please. SEC wonks count it as a notch in their belt every time LSU beats a team like Oregon State at home. If that's the standard of dominance, then a GaTech win over MSU counts too.
  4. dethwing
    4. Posted by dethwing Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Colley Conference Ranking:
    1. Big 12: .749
    2. SEC: .732
    3. Big 10: .679
    4. MWC: .646
    5. Pac 10: .583
    6. ACC: .544
    7. Big East: .457
    The ACC is closer to the Big East than they are to the Big 12.
    Anyone can post computer rankings. That doesn't always mean they're right.
    Though I like Colley's system, since he ignores conference games and only looks at what the conferences do as a whole against each other.
  5. Richard
    5. Posted by Richard Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 pm EDT

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    Harold B: I think it's more that 5 of the top 10 teams right now are SEC teams. OR that since the BCS began in 1998, the SEC has won three national championships, the most of any of the conferences. (The Big 12 is second with two.) Or that in 2007 (I was too lazy to find the 08 draft) over 1/3 of the first 32 picks came from the SEC (11). The SEC led all conferences with 21 draft picks during the first day of the draft...and the list goes on.
    It's ok. Accept your position on the low rung of the ladder and move on. After all, GT has really great academics, right?
  6. Harold B
    6. Posted by Harold B Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    I don't care about GaTech or their academics at all.
    And I like the SEC. An Auburn-LSU game on a Saturday night is where it's at. But I appreciate the SEC for the environment at its games and the depth of pretty good teams it contains.
    But it has been the case for a while now that quite often those teams that constitute the depth throw out some really bad offenses and pundits regard the games as defensive wars when in fact they are only displays of offensive ineptitude.
    The SEC can be both the best conference in the country and overrated at the same time. And that's where it is right now. Tennessee losing to a team that lost to BYU by 59 has already been forgotten, but it doesn't work the other way.
  7. D.N. Nation
    7. Posted by D.N. Nation Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    gtne91- Yeah, Wake/GT drew better than VT/BC, but there were quite a few empty sections anyway.
  8. gtne91
    8. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    DN - I think Wake had all 3000 of their alumni at the game. :) What more do you want them to do?
    The big problem is that the supposedly "big football fans" in Jacksonville didnt come to the game. Where was the local support? Which is why the game is moving to Charlotte (with a stop off in Tampa along the way).
  9. gtne91
    9. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    dethwing,
    I actually prefer the Colley method to Sagarin overall, but his method of doing conference ratings is kinda silly. I think in it, for example, a GT win over MSU would count the same as a GT win over UGA. The sagarin method just averages out teams overall ratings.
    Plus, the Colley at this time of year is just silly. Since he doesnt include any kind of preseason numbers, it really has no meaning at all for at least 4-5 weeks. I do like seeing the MWC over the P10 though. Its funny, even if not true.
    My whole point was that the ACC is weak and needs redemption meme is stupid. The media annointed the wrong teams the preseason favorites and when they lost it means the whole league is bad. Actually, it means the media cant predict.
  10. Alaska Hokie
    10. Posted by Alaska Hokie Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:36 pm EDT

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    I agree completely with gtne. In addition, the pick of Jacksonville as the original ACCCG location was because the conference was expecting to see FSU/Miami nearly every year. When that didn't happen, you got atrocious crowds from teams like Wake/GT. In the first year, though, when it was FSU/VT, the game was sold out (I was there).
    Don't be surprised if attendance at the Tampa site this year is similarly atrocious. It's even farther away from most ACC teams than Jacksonville, and the way it's looking, it'll likely be teams that won't draw as well this year either. Once the game moves to Charlotte, however, it shouldn't have a problem drawing fans.
  11. Jams
    11. Posted by Jams Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    "near-Medusa levels of unwatchability"
    That was just perfect.
  12. gtne91
    12. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    AK Hokie,
    Actually, GT had decent attendance, probably greater than you all had last year (based on that picture and my recollection from being there in 2006). Wake didnt do their fair share, but they still had more fans than BC, I think. I was somewhat disappointed in GT's showing in '06, especially after our attendance at Gator Bowl v Notre Dame in 1998 (Jan 1 1999). VT's showing last year was even more disappointing, I thought you all travelled well.
  13. Brock
    13. Posted by Brock Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    gt will never get respect from the sec until they can end that 7-game losing streak against georgia.
  14. Uncle Grandfather
    14. Posted by Uncle Grandfather Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    yeah the gator bowl in 98 was great and georgia better watch out 14-7 at south carolina cmon can anyone say overrated.To hell with georgia
  15. Doug G
    15. Posted by Doug G Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:19 am EDT

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    Thomas, the 2002 UGA-USC game was even uglier (13-7 final), yet that season turned out pretty good for us, as I recall. Anyone remember what the score was against Tech that November?

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