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JoeP catches up to 1993, laps rest of Big Ten. Here is where the Big Ten is at the moment, innovation-wise: The leading voice of progress within the conference is ... Joe Paterno?

Penn State coach Joe Paterno said Thursday night that he has pushed within the Big Ten conference to expand it to 12 teams as a method of leveling the playing field in college football.
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"Everybody else is playing playoffs on television," Paterno said. "You never see a Big Ten team mentioned. So I think that's a handicap.

"I've tried to talk to the Big Ten people about, 'Let's get a 12th team -- Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt -- we could have a little bit of a playoff.'"

The 12-team/two-division/championship game format pioneered by the SEC is clearly the future for the Big Ten and Pac-10, eventually, and would make the much-discussed ninth conference game viable. But JoePa knows the odds while he's still kicking in State College: "You know, it's a conference that's dominated by a couple of people ... If I start talking, they're polite, but they snicker. They don't know I know they're snickering, but they're polite."

Paterno -- supposedly getting around a lot better after his hip replacement surgery over the winter -- also used the forum to stick up for Bobby Bowden in FSU's fight to keep the 14 wins threatened by NCAA sanctions.

Senselessness. Bizarre, terrible story out of Louisiana, where Drew Villar, a walk-on kicker at Tulane, was found dead Thursday of unknown causes:

"We just don't know what happened," Lynn Odom, an aunt who answered the phone at Villar's parents home said. "He's just gone."

I don't know what kind of player Villar was, but the Times-Picayune reports he was president of his class all four years in high school and earned a legislative scholarship, and the sudden disappearance of 20-year-olds is never anything but tragic.

Three lewd and lascivious strikes, and you're out. On the completely opposite end of the spectrum, there's North Carolina recruit Angelo Hadley, who was booted from the Tar Heels before he ever arrived following his second arrest in less than a month on Wednesday, this time for allegedly having consensual sex with a 14-year-old girl while his two older brothers robber her house of more than $17,000 worth of jewelry, cash and a shotgun in February. Hadley was charged with felonies for burglary and firearm possession as well as lewd and lascivious battery, on top of the two counts of lewd and lascivious battery he picked up on April 5, which were apparently connected to the same incident.

In other legal news: Texas A&M offensive lineman Matt Allen, a potential starter, was arrested last weekend for DWI; and Ohio State walk-on tailback Bo DeLande was also hit with a DUI on Tuesday, at least the fifth drug or alcohol-related arrest of a Buckeye this offseason.

The Capital One Bowl is on fire. Or so says the Orlando Sentinel, which reported Thursday that bowl honcho Steve Hogan is pulling the fire alarm on the futures of both the Capital One and Champs Sports bowls if the Citrus Bowl doesn't undergo renovations. Just one tiny problem:

Improvements to the dilapidated stadium projected to cost $175 million have been tabled indefinitely, with Hogan and several city officials agreeing it could be 10 years before the venue would be renovated because of the nosedive in tourism tax revenue.

SEC and Big Ten reps immediately "pounced" on the holdup in meetings with Hogan, which -- especially with the Cotton Bowl moving to the Cowboys' lavish new intergalactic space palace in Dallas -- might cost the Capital One game the first pick at non-BCS teams from those conferences, a position it apparently covets. Can't noted Orlando booster Lee Corso intervene here?

Quickly ... Pat Hill, on the hot seat? ... Why the Jets really drafted Mark Sanchez. ... Get your official Greg Paulus World Tour t-shirt. (The Robert Marve live box set remains in the works.) ... Mack Brown won't attend next week's Big 12 coaches' meeting, where the tiebreaker rule that helped cost Texas a shot in last year's championship game will be up for discussion, to attend to his wife during her wrist surgery. At least Leach and Sherman will be there. ... Some Arizona officials are pushing back against Mike Stoops' raise in bad economic times. ... Even after a bad spring game, UCLA officially named Kevin Prince its starting quarterback. (Again.) ... Pittsburgh boots seniors T.J. Porter and Tommie Duhart for undisclosed reasons, though Porter has had a series of legal problems (most recently a DUI in February) and Duhart has struggled academically since transferring from junior college. ... Wisconsin receiver Luke Swann is shooting for the pros via Michael Irvin's reality show on Spike TV. ... Meet Geno Atkins, Georgia's only two-sport athlete. ... Ex-Colorado receiver/Olympic skier Jeremy Bloom, once stripped of his football eligibility by the NCAA, has a few ideas for improving the organization. I'm with him on revenue sharing and the jersey thing. ... Former 300-pound lineman Brett Byford has shed weight and returned to Nebraska to run a marathon. ... Dabo Swinney is a hit on the rubber chicken circuit. ... And fans can drink up in Minnesota's new stadium this fall. (Just be careful in the bathrooms, ladies, alright?)

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  1. Mat
    1. Posted by Mat Fri May 01, 2009 10:26 am EDT

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    How could Joe Pa not call out Notre Dame? It's about time ND followed PennSt's lead and join a damn conference.
    Plus, Big 10 get no spotlight because of lack of playoffs? They also get better bowl games for it! There is no championship game to lose.
  2. mikez34
    2. Posted by mikez34 Fri May 01, 2009 10:53 am EDT

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    The Big Ten, Pac 10 and Big East all need to take on championship games. All of the conferences rules are too different to ever be able to determine a national champion.
  3. Miles Tarver
    3. Posted by Miles Tarver Fri May 01, 2009 10:54 am EDT

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    I heard that they are actually looking at St. Cloud State as a serious dark horse. Ever since Doug Ringeisen and Casey Litzinger took them consecutive National Championship games they have been getting a lot of buzz as the second best team in Minnesota right behind Benilde St Margaret and right ahead of Winona State, the University of Minnesota, and the Vikings.
  4. 1-2-3
    4. Posted by 1-2-3 Fri May 01, 2009 11:07 am EDT

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    OMFG @ Mat M. U think Big 10 has better playoff teams b/c of it? What r u smoking? We suck post season. We've sucked post season for nearly 6 or 7 years - not since going 5-0 in bowl games. And I'm tired of this ND hype. We dont need ND. Let them go to the Big East. We already have two Indiana teams in the Big 10. We can't bring in another Ohio team b/c OSU will bolt. We could bring in Syracuse as a punching bag but the Big East would never let them go. I say we'll probably need to bring in a up & coming smaller conference team.
  5. kass0809@...
    5. Posted by kass0809@... Fri May 01, 2009 12:18 pm EDT

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    i wonder if nebraska would ever bolt? looking at the us news academic rankings, neb isn't that far off from other schools like iowa and wisky and the following is far larger/healthier than the pitt/cuse/rutgers. i guess the big x really wouldn't be interested until neb turns is fb program around, cause its bball program sure as hell isn't going to cut it.
  6. Woekie
    6. Posted by Woekie Fri May 01, 2009 12:27 pm EDT

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    Joe Paterno suggested that he'd like to play conference games against Pitt? Hoax.
  7. Lord Calvert
    7. Posted by Lord Calvert Fri May 01, 2009 12:41 pm EDT

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    Frankly, there are only two universities in that region which have the athletic and more importantly academic depth to be in the Big Ten: Notre Dame and Buffalo. Notre Dame values their independent status too much. Universities like Pitt and Syracuse do not have the academic reputation. Rutgers would be a geographic stretch.
    If the Big Ten is to expand the only logical candidate is the university that is to New York what Penn State is to Pennsylvania. It has to be Buffalo.
  8. zibby
    8. Posted by zibby Fri May 01, 2009 1:50 pm EDT

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    Lord Calvert - You don't know what you're talking about. Both Pitt and Syracuse are members of the Association of American Universities, an elite group of universities all the other Big 11 schools belong to. They're also highly rated by US News. Either Pitt or Syracuse would be somewhere in the middle of the conference if they were in the Big 11 and the schools were ranked academically.
    Buffalo also is a very good school, but one 8-6 football season and a couple of basketball conference championship game losses doesn't make them ready for the Big 11. I think the best thing for Buffalo would be to change its name to (the) New York State University. It's clearly the biggest and best state school in New York. The change might get it more of a following outside of Buffalo. And, the name Buffalo has a loser stigma to it. Change the name to NYSU and nobody immediately thinks of snow, closed manufacturing plants and four Super Bowl losses when they think of the program. In time, maybe they can get into an reconfigured Big East.
  9. Mat
    9. Posted by Mat Fri May 01, 2009 1:57 pm EDT

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    @1-2-3, in no way would I ever suggest that the Big 10 has good playoff teams. I was suggesting that they get better bowl bids because of the lack of championships games. As Zackary K stated above, these championships games don't really help the winner, and hurt the loser.
  10. buffalobuckeye
    10. Posted by buffalobuckeye Fri May 01, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    I'll go with the Big-10 either standing pat or bringing in Buffalo. Good God, anything but Pitt/Syracuse/Rutgers.
  11. scott
    11. Posted by scott Fri May 01, 2009 4:02 pm EDT

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    I'm pretty sure you're wrong on your assertion of 5 OSU arrests this off season. Here are the only current players arrested this year to my knowledge:
    -JB Shugarts & Mike Adams for paraphernalia (dropped when it was discovered that their pipe was, in fact, for tobacco)
    -Bo Delande for DUI
    -Alex Boone is no longer a player at OSU, nor is Donte Whitner, who were both arrested
    So only one current OSU player was arrested for an actual crime this year. Shugarts & Adams did nothing wrong, and Boone & Whitner aren't even still our players. I think that you should make a correction.
  12. CuseFanInSoCal
    12. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Fri May 01, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    I'm sure the Big Ten has never had any serious interest in us, as Syracuse is not in the Big Ten now (and for all the tradition we've built in thirty years of Big East basketball and almost twenty of Big East football, $$$ would compel any Big East school to accept an offer from the Big Ten immediately, before they could think about changing their minds).
    It's probably worth noting, though, that pretty much any plausible addition to the Big Ten would create a Big 12-esque football imbalance between divisions with Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan presumably in the eastern division. At least, East/West clearly makes more sense than North/South or purely arbitrary divisions, and any way you look at it, they're going to be three of the four easternmost schools in the conference.
    Me, I'm in the anti-conference championship game camp. I'd knock everyone down to ten teams (well, I'd use some of the leftovers to bump up the Big East to ten teams, and construct a BCS-level conference in the Rockies), have everyone play Pac 10-style round robin schedules, and be done with it.
  13. Irish Bastard
    13. Posted by Irish Bastard Fri May 01, 2009 5:42 pm EDT

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    Thats it Joe Fart ....take more teams out of the Big East you flippin old fart !
    Why not join the Big East Joey and bring in that wussy of a team ND ....
    ND is the biggest joke .To afraid to join a confrence.
    Ya think the Big East has been raped enough of teams being taken away . No respect for the BE but yet they keep taking the teams away ...ummmm...I wonder why ?
  14. Andrew
    14. Posted by Andrew Fri May 01, 2009 10:19 pm EDT

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    joe pa needs to pay more attetion to the team then the big 10.
  15. Bobby Boucher
    15. Posted by Bobby Boucher Sat May 02, 2009 9:18 am EDT

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    I say it's a great idea to add another team. Why not have a conference playoff? I hate having to wait a 1 1/2 months from November to January to see a big ten team play again. It would also add credibility to the conference. I also believe that ND should be that 12th team. They're already well acquainted with most of the teams and almost always get beat. Why not add another sure win for most of the big ten teams?
  16. conor b
    16. Posted by conor b Sat May 02, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    The Pac 10 already does play nine conference games, unlike the other conferences who play 8
  17. CuseFanInSoCal
    17. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Sat May 02, 2009 5:27 pm EDT

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    Conor - the Big East and Sun Belt, having only 8 teams, play 7 conference games. The Big East, MWC, Pac 10, Sun Belt, and WAC all play round-robin schedules.
    cool dude - I'm not a fan of JoePa by any means (PSU should be in the Big East, or an all-sports northeastern conference based mostly around the Big East football schools, and it's largely JoePa's fault that it's not), but he did just win the Big Ten. I think he's doing okay with his team.
  18. James P
    18. Posted by James P Sat May 02, 2009 6:11 pm EDT

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    I disagree with the Doc and JoePa. A conference championship game is stupid. Just look at the Big 12 last season. What good did a championship game do? None. Only the Big 12 and SEC have them, and it is already a failure in the Big 12. I could see it failing in the SEC eventually. A noble experiment. A bust. As long as conference championships remain free of controversy in the Big 10 and PAC 10, then the whole thing is bust.
    Also JoePa is wrong, the Big 10 needs to ditch a team. Most fingers would point to Northwestern, but they'll never leave. Purdue to the Big East?
  19. Big Country
    19. Posted by Big Country Sun May 03, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    Notre Dame could join the Big 10 and still play USC, Navy, Pitt and Schleprock state. The Pac 10 could add Boise State and Utah
  20. CuseFanInSoCal
    20. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Sun May 03, 2009 9:34 pm EDT

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    James P - the Big 12, ACC, CUSA, and MAC all have conference championship games. I always find it kind of strange that people who argue for universal adoption of the things or dumping them entirely aren't very aware of which conferences have them and which don't, or how many teams are in conferences other than the one they follow.
    Also, the rock-paper-scissors in the Big 12 South last year was an extremely unlikely event. I'm not a fan of conference championship games, but a 'pure' 3-way tie like that isn't an excuse to ditch them.
  21. Roger
    21. Posted by Roger Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:54 pm EDT

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    Here's the deal. If the big 10 can't recruit Notre Dame, they need to go after Iowa State. Pure and simple.
  22. Roger
    22. Posted by Roger Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:56 pm EDT

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    By the way, the big 12 can recruit Colorado State to replace Iowa State. Now you have natural rivalries in both conferences.
  23. Roger
    23. Posted by Roger Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:06 am EDT

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    On the two previous posts, I'm speaking as a totally non-biased University of Florida alumnus. I think it would be good for both conferences and it would attract more TV audiences in Iowa and Colorado when the local rivlaries play plus I believe it would upgrade the recruiting in both Iowa State and Colorado State and both would become much better teams. That would be good for both conferences too.

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