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Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:22 am EST

Headlinin': Go South, young coach

I knew all those Outback Bowl trips would pay off. Tom Mulhern doesn't want to pile on in the geography of recruiting debate, but the Wisconsin State Journal reporter couldn't help but notice a slight, uh, disparity where his home state is concerned:

Talking to St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, Fla.) football coach George Smith this week, he told me he had 10 players from his team who already had given oral commitments to colleges and a couple more expected before the Feb. 4 signing day.

The news that Homestead linebacker Ben Gardner had committed to Stanford now makes 12 players in the entire state of Wisconsin who have committed to Football Bowl Subdivision schools (not counting walk-ons). That's right, when it's all said and done, one team from Florida could have about the same number of FBS recruits as all of Wisconsin.

It might help Mulhern to mention that the state of Florida has three times Wisconsin's population and three different I-A universities with larger enrollments than Wisconsin's. But yeah, that's a fairly wide gap for any monster state school that's come to expect to compete nationally -- the other Big Ten states all produce more I-A players., with the possible exception of Minnesota, where Tim Brewster has done an admirable job of locking down the state.

At least Bret Bielema can't be accused of not paying attention: Two Aquinas players, linebacker Conor O'Neill and safety Dezmen Southward, are committed to play for the Badgers, along with a third Floridian, defensive end David Gilbert. That's compared to just five commitments to UW from the Badger State itself. If Bielema gets one strong, late push into Florida, maybe he can make Madison "Little Fort Lauderdale."

Don't act so surprised, please. More Big Ten recruiting woes, even at Ohio State, where the Buckeyes are totally cleaning up overall, except in one key area: Quarterback. OSU hasn't signed a signal caller despite a fairly desperate situation behind Terrelle Pryor, and when the Buckeyes missed on their main QB target, Tajh Boyd, earlier this week, they were forced to reach waaaaaaay into back of the file cabinet to float an offer to two-star Miami of Ohio commit Austin Boucher, whose other offers were from Toledo and Air Force. Boucher's reaction, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer: "I was like, 'What? No way.'"

After the initial shock wore off, though, OSU was still in the lurch: Boucher turned the offer down to stick with Miami.

What's it take to get a little pull around here? Matt Grothe is the most recognizable player in South Florida history by about a million miles, and can probably take a good share of the credit for putting USF football on the map the last three years. That still wasn't enough to get him in the gate when NBC called to have Bull star toss passes to announce-person Cris Collinsworth before the Super Bowl:

Grothe would have been off-camera while throwing to Collinsworth, the former Bengals receiver, and USF had signed off on the move, since it wasn't promotional in nature and thus didn't violate any NCAA rules.

Alas, Raymond James Stadium is so locked down in preparation for Sunday's game that NBC couldn't get Grothe added to the list of credentialed staffers with access to the stadium Wednesday, so the plan was scrapped and the network will have to find someone who already has a credential and a decent arm for the segment.

Credentials? Grothe's 14-4 as a starter in Raymond James and thrown 26 career touchdown passes there. Eh, sorry kid: This is the NFL and you're like 5'11". Never heard of you.

Quickly ... UNC-Charlotte unveiled its financial plan and seat license program with an eye toward beginning I-AA play in 2013. ... Both Phil Fulmer and Tommy Tuberville will work Signing Day for opposing networks, since they have nothing else going on that day. ... Richard Samuel, who could have used the time to compete with Caleb King for Georgia's starting tailback job, will miss spring practice while recovering from wrist surgery. ... USC corner Shareece Wright has turned down a plea bargain in his charge of resisting a police officer last fall. ... Even after two player collapses in a year, recruits aren't holding it against UCF. ... Alabama put 22 players on the SEC Academic Honor Roll. ... And you're hooked up for your midweek MAC fix for another nine years, at least.

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  1. Randy W
    1. Posted by Randy W Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:11 pm EDT

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    Wow - the SEC Academic Honor Roll! How much more prestigious is that than the Rhodes Scholarship Myron Rolle earned?
  2. gatorhead
    2. Posted by gatorhead Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    Florida (and vandy) put a league record 37 on the sec academic honor roll...just sayin'...
  3. kass0809@...
    3. Posted by kass0809@... Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    In somewhat of a defense of Wisconson, first, if you look at the population breakdown, Florida may have a higher % of high school aged kids than Wisconsin, so its not just overall population. Secondly, and probably more importantly, public schools in places like Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa are actually very good schools, whereas Florida.... well, they are war zones. Therefore, kids who are talented migrate to the few large wealthy private schools in Florida whereas in Wisconsin they are much more spread out. If you want anymore justification that Wisconsin kids are, in general, more educated, U of Wisconsin may be smaller than UF, or USF, or Florida State, but in terms of academic standing, the UW crushes these schools, esp. in areas like research and graduate work.
    But overall, there is still a big talent gap, even with the other nunances.
  4. AgnosticTheocrat
    4. Posted by AgnosticTheocrat Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    UF is a comparable school to Wisconsin.
  5. Joshgator
    5. Posted by Joshgator Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    kass0809... where are you getting your "facts" from about UW crushing UF in areas like research and graduate work. UF's medical and law schools rank in the top 10% of all schools nationwide, Shands Hospital (part of UF and used to train medical students) is a pioneer in cancer research. You know the internet you are using now? UF partnered with the armed forces in developing broadband technology (UF was one of the first schools with high speed internet). The list goes on and on. Despite your misguided beliefs, UF is a very highly regarded school not just for its athletics, but for it's academic standards. With the GPA and SAT scores I had in high school (and I graduated magna cum laude from a VERY large high school) I was still only around the 70th %ile of students enrolling at UF. And no...I am NOT saying that Wisconsin is a poor academic school, in fact, I would consider their academic facilities to be very good. However, to say that UW "crushes" UF academically...you are sorely mistaken. I would say that they are around equal (maybe one is slightly better than the other...and based on what I read when researching schools I would say that UF most likely edges out Wisconson, but CERTAINLY NOT CRUSHING THE OTHER)!!! Wisconson might academically crush Tahiti Tech A& M (name made up to emphasize the point), but certainly not UF!!!
  6. conor b
    6. Posted by conor b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    um not a fan of either UF or Wisc, but UW is far far better academically than UF. Far better.
  7. Joshgator
    7. Posted by Joshgator Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    Conor b....I will say this again for you...but more slowly so you and kass0809 can understand me. WHHHHEEEERRRREEEE AAAARRRREEEE YYYOOOUUU GGGGEEEETTTIIIINNNNGGG YYYOOOUUURRR "FFFAAACCCTTTSSS FFFRRROOOMMM? (Where are you getting your "facts" from?) It sounds like both of you are pulling these so-called facts out of your gluteus maximus. The FACTS are that UF is an outstanding academic institution that has been winning awards for YEARS in various disciplines, has been on the cutting edge of research in a variety of fields, and has some of the most decorated faculty nationwide. To say that UW is significantly academically superior to UF based on facts pulled out of your posterior only shows one thing: that you have no concept of research methodology, nor the wherewithall to go out and check before you make asinine comments like that. Once again...I will spell it out for you. If you think that UW is far better academically than UF....you must have an IQ of about 3. I feel sorry for you both (as I prepare to get my doctorate in a clinical healthcare field) you do what?....Work as a busboy in a restaurant like you have been doing for the last 30 years? You are pathetic. I honestly feel sorry for you both.
  8. Zachary K
    8. Posted by Zachary K Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:00 pm EDT

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    One thing we can all agree on: Yale sucks.
  9. James P
    9. Posted by James P Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:28 pm EDT

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    Joshgator: Where are you getting your facts from? US news and world reports puts UF law school at #47. UW is #31. For medical school UF is #45. UW is #19. UW has a world class biomedical research facility. Last year UW researchers pioneered a new way of making stem cells from ordinary skin cells. UF engineering: #24. UW engineering #15.
    To claim that UF edges out UW requires some proof, and frankly the facts say otherwise. And no, I did not go to UW.
  10. Tyler
    10. Posted by Tyler Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:47 pm EDT

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    What do you expect James P. They are the SEC, they make their own facts.

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