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Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:39 am EST

Headlinin': Charlie Weis, survivor

He'll be back. Charlie Weis' "week in coaching no-man's land" ends today, according to an anonymous source in the South Bend Tribune, which reports Notre Dame will announce Weis' return for 2009 despite losing four of the last five and suffering back-to-back humiliations against Syracuse and USC. There's no word from Weis or AD Jack Swarbrick, who were both still in California Tuesday night, but a South Bend TV station was apparently reporting the same thing Tuesday.

The Tribune focuses immediately on the obvious double standard in keeping Weis for the same record after four years that got Tyrone Willingham fired after three. Why? Race is mentioned, of course, but the other reasons seem more likely to me: Weis, like Swarbrick and university president John Jenkins, is a Notre Dame graduate, and his hastily-orchestrated buyout -- thrown together to protect Weis from the NFL after narrowly losing to the '05 USC juggernaut -- is beyond the pale. And the rest of college football laughs and laughs.

Nobody poaches Phil Knight's coordinators. Oregon wrapped its arms around Chip Kelly and put its much-sought offensive coordinator in a big bear hug Monday, naming Kelly coach-in-waiting behind Mike Bellotti, who'll become Oregon's AD when he steps down. Quotes therein suggest that could be sooner than his age (Bellotti turns 58 in a couple weeks) would suggest, maybe as soon as 2010.

This is typically shrewd: Kelly didn't get anything like Will Muschamp's $900,000 windfall (there is an annual retention bonus), but like Muschamp and fellow heirs-in-waiting Jimbo Fisher and Joker Phillips, Kelly has been heavily pursued the last couple seasons, and had been heavily linked to the Syracuse job even before Saturday's 700-yard romp at Oregon State raised his profile and market value that much more. He was probably going to interview with the Orange today before the ducks promised to hand over the keys to a much flashier ride.

Speaking of which: Nike has begun design on accompanying hideous uniforms-in-waiting. I don't want to give anything away, but ... there will be glow sticks.

Speed kills, size merely maims beyond recognition. First of all, I love this work by the Gainesville Sun:

In more substantial news, Terrence Cody's Florida counterpart in the middle of the defensive line, Brandon Antwine, is lost for the postseason to a torn ACL. The good news for the Gators is that Percy Harvin's ankle is getting thumbs up for Saturday since the weekend scare, though he won't be back at practice until later in the week. Harvin was questionable for a near-identical situation in 2006, when he was knocked out of the FSU game with a concussion, was questionable for the SEC Championship against Arkansas and wound up walking away as the game's MVP.

Quickly ... Tommy Tuberville's "evaluation" with Auburn powerbrokers could last the rest of the week. ... 9-3 Georgia Tech is staying in Atlanta for New Year's to play in the Peach Bowl, or whatever they're calling it these days, and 7-5 Clemson is going to the Gator for Dabo Swinney's debut a full-time boss. ... Clemson defensive coordinator Vic Koening resigned ahead of the Gator Bowl to have better prospects in case he's not retained on Swinney's staff. ... New Purdue coach Danny Hope has hired Florida Atlantic coach Gary Nord as the Boilermakers' new offensive coordinator. ... USC wide receiver Vidal Hazelton, an ex-blue chip who's had a somewhat rocky career at USC, has decided to transfer. ... New Wyoming coach Dave Christensen reviews the troops. ... UConn running back Andre Dixon was charged with drunken driving and suspended indefinitely by Randy Edsall. ... Kevin Craft, silent punching bag. ... Kentucky quarterback Randall Cobb is underwent knee surgery Tuesday and hopes to return in time for a bowl game. ... Mark Richt may be loyal to a fault with his assistants. ... Alabama players are going for an SEC Championship beard. ... And Sam Bradford's pass efficiency rating is way, way off the charts, even the best charts.

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  1. 4.0 Point Stance
    1. Posted by 4.0 Point Stance Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:55 pm EDT

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    That chart really makes you appreciate how much Gino Torreta didn't deserve that award. He was like Eric Crouch, without the rushing yards.
  2. Kev Oh
    2. Posted by Kev Oh Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    So coaches in waiting include: Chip, Jimbo, and Joker... seriously?
  3. eric cartman
    3. Posted by eric cartman Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 pm EDT

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    the failing irish are bringin back the fat man?..shocking..their slogan should be committment to losing..
  4. mrossi409
    4. Posted by mrossi409 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    chicago tribune sucks. you're better than that, matt. there are good reasons to fire coach weis and good reasons to keep him. citing race and alumni status is a lazy way to look at the situations. he's probably being kept b/c of a variety of factors. 1. he recruits well (tw did not) 2. swarbrick the ad is in his first year and probably didn't want to make such a big decision already 3. swarbrick was however contacting a few other coaches and probably couldn't get a "guaranteed" better hire than weis. if anything, the program is in much better shape than 4 years ago and that, in itself, is at least worth something. if weis continues to fail as a coach, he'll probably be fired next year.
  5. gtne91
    5. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    Did Oregon name Kelly the "coach in waiting" as an intervention, in order to prevent him from killing his career at Syracuse?
  6. Matt H
    6. Posted by Matt H Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:48 pm EDT

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    mrossi: That would be the South Bend Tribune's assessment, not the Chicago Tribune's. In looking for differences between Willingham's situation and Weis', I'm pretty sure Jeff Carroll would disagree with you about the state of the program now compared to 2004.
    Re: Your second point: I think keeping Weis qualifies as a "big decision" in itself.
  7. Sean
    7. Posted by Sean Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    This news about Charlie Weis is more than shocking its unblieveable. He has dropped ND so far down that i don't believe they can come back. The mystique that used to be ND is fadding fast. I beleive this AD is as bad as he is. Weis represents everything that ND is not. He is an arogant whale of a man who has no business there. I don't think he could even get a job in the NFL again. Lets face it Tom Brady made him look very good. Now he is exposed and ND can't see it. Me and my family have been long time ND fans. That will definetly change now.
    Urban Meyer knew what he was doing when he turned down the job.
  8. just4funsies
    8. Posted by just4funsies Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    Quoting Notre Dame A.D.: "He, I and the others involved in leading our football program are committed to doing everything necessary to ensure a successful 2009 season...” Obviously not, since Fat Charlie is still there... Pu$$ies...
  9. wingsrule17
    9. Posted by wingsrule17 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:47 pm EDT

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    To tell you the truth, it isn't weis' fault. He has no talent to work with. C'mon, Jimmy Clausen, give me a break. That guy couldn't throw a pass to save his life. The defense also needs some recruiting help. Notre Dame needs a leader in the huddle.
  10. athsquare
    10. Posted by athsquare Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:59 pm EDT

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    Notre Dame is a product of their own predjudices and they are getting what they had coming to them. They fired Ty Willingham before he could finish his vision but mostly because he was black then they hired Charlie Weis whos only wins mostly came with Ty's players his best year was the year that Ty had said Notre Dame was going to be stong his fourth year as a coach Turned out he was right and Charlie Weis got the credit. Now they are paying for it ... they are getting what they deserve maybe there is a god and now he hates Notre Dame because as my nanny used to say God doesnt like UGLY!!!!!! Truth is Nobody can bring Notre Dame back to prominence they are an ivy leauge school trying to play top notch football and in this day of faster and stonger athletes it cant be done with Geeky doctors, Journalism, and english majors. Bottom line is Notre Dame has been bad for a long time its surprising that the press still loves them (due mostly to the fact that alot of them came from south bend) I wouldnt put them on the field with Vanderbilt much less a real college.
  11. MONGONI
    11. Posted by MONGONI Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm EDT

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    I think this is just plain bull dung!!! how in the heck should he return when he sucks as bad as coach ty w. supposedly does?...not to make this a racist issue but that is why blacks support oj.,plexico,ombama etc. whether wrong or right cause there is no real fairness or equality in america...go vick!!!
  12. mrossi409
    12. Posted by mrossi409 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    Matt. My bad on the Tribune mixup. You're right about keeping Weis being a "big decision", however it pales in comparison to picking out a new coach. The past few ND coaching searches (O'Leary, Willingham, & Weis) were absolutely embarrasing circuses. In light of that, I feel keeping a coach, letting him recruit, and giving the administration a full year to look for a new coach is a much safer move. Keep in mind that most ND fans didn't jump off the bandwagon until post-UNC game this year.
    The program is undoutedly in better shape than 4 years ago. The talent level, if you are to believe recruiting services, is the highest rated, deepest, and most spread out over classes than it has been since the early 1990s. Yes, Ty did recruit the vaunted Brady Quinn class, but his ultimate undoing was the lack of any recruiting consistency in the 2 years after that. Weis' recruiting effort hasn't completely made its impact on the field quite yet, but he's shown the ability to get great recruits to buy into ND. If Weis gets fired next year, whoever steps in will be successful partially b/c of the talent stockpiled by CW and his staff.
    As a side note, I only commented b/c I often read your blog and respect your analysis. I admire your analysis b/c it seems you can side-step the normal one-off analysis BS given by ESPN and beat writers. I feel you gave in a little to that and portrayed ND unfairly.
  13. mrossi409
    13. Posted by mrossi409 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm EDT

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    also, thanks for commenting back. i love discussing football with people who can form reasoned and intelligent responses.
  14. Art
    14. Posted by Art Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    Matt,
    Just to confirm MRossi409 comments. I have been following ND football since the mid 70's and I have seen the ups and downs of the program. Based on the roster, I can infer that the last TWO recruiting classes from Bob Davie were not even in the top 20 in the country.
    Ty did not fare any better. According to Rivals100.com. TW first recruiting class was ranked #24. His second and best recruiting class was #12 and including Brady Quinn, Tom Zbikowski, Jeff Samardzija et al. Third class was dismal dropping all the way to #30 and, not being that enough, his last class dropped even more to #40.
    CW recruiting classes have been #8 (2006), #8 (2007) and #2 (2008). That is a difference that will show soon in the depth chart. Current recruiting class, in spite of the last two ugliest seasons in ND history, is still #10 and holding. It is obvious that the reason why CW is not fired: it is call class recruiting
  15. Art
    15. Posted by Art Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    Some typos: what I meant to say was that TW second recruiting class included Brady Quinn an company.
    Finishing my line of thought: CW brought to ND a great recruiting team as it is evident by the ranking of his recruting classes, at least according to Rivals100.com. It is my contention that recruiting is the main reason why he is not being fired as a head coach of Notre Dame.
  16. GP
    16. Posted by GP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    With the tradition at Notre Dame, I find it absolutely incredible that Charlie Weis is returning. He may be a great recruiter, but he still is a .500 coach.
    Barry Switzer was the consumate recruiter at OU. But poor seasons and scandals brought him down. NO ONE is THAT good!
  17. David H
    17. Posted by David H Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm EDT

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    Tradition!!!! You mean the tradition of being on TV every Saturday win or lose...........the last years mostly lose! I'm sick or hearing about Notre Dame tradition. That was your Dad's Notre Dame!
  18. IDGAD
    18. Posted by IDGAD Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:27 pm EDT

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    In today's reality it should be surprising when a Notre Dame or a Stanford or a Duke or a Vanderbilt sustains any kind of football dominance. If any such school can do it, ND is the one. No, I don't buy into the 'morally superior' fantasy of the delusional ND apologists. The fact that CW could recruit so well argues that the school can get the material, but what comes of it? How much of it will produce and stay in school?

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