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Two weeks ago, Michigan and (to a lesser extent) Notre Dame both made some strides on the food chain by staging a dramatic shootout in Ann Arbor that looked like an instant classic. And two weeks later, I suppose it's just a coincidence that both got out by the skin of their teeth as substantial favorites against the two teams almost unanimously regarded as the worst in the Big Ten:

The positive spin out of those escapes is that both teams remain winners -- Michigan is 4-0, Notre Dame 3-1 -- and got "gutsy" efforts from their starting quarterbacks, Tate Forcier and Jimmy Clausen, both of whom returned from injuries to throw the winning touchdown pass. Charlie Weis said Clausen wouldn't have played in the second half at all if Purdue hadn't cut into Notre Dame's 10-point halftime lead. In that sense, these were great efforts from two feted SoCal kids scratching out victory in the hardscrabble Midwest, etc.

But these aren't really inspiring wins, in general: Notre Dame's three wins are over teams that are 2-5 outside of their losses to the Irish, with losses to Central Michigan, Colorado State and Northern Illinois in that record. The Irish have barely gotten out of two straight, three-point wins against Big Ten also-rans whose only victories are over Toledo and Montana State, respectively, and which have each lost three in a row after those initial cupcake dates. On one hand, the Irish have kept alive their solid record against losing teams (they opened 5-1 against a similar schedule last year), but offered few hints -- especially on defense, where they currently rank 94th in total D and 106th against the pass -- that they've progressed enough to reverse the years-long skid against winners, now at 17 losses in the last 18 games against teams that finished above .500.

At the time, off back-to-back carpet-bombings of Hawaii and Nevada, the similar aerial barrage at Michigan looked like a natural progression against more talented teams. But the question after Indiana's 467-yard, 33-point barrage Saturday is "Who isn't going to put up huge yards on the Wolverines?" The Hoosiers -- dead last in the Big Ten in every significant offensive aspect last year -- went on long marches and hit big plays alike (an 85-yard touchdown run and a 56-yard completion to set up another score) and might have been on their way to more points if the officials had seen Donovan Warren's clinching interception differently on IU's final drive. The Wolverines are 89th nationally in total defense and 92nd against the pass, slightly worse than last year's numbers for the year and significantly worse than their 2-2 start in September. There is no comparison between the offenses, but the progress of the Michigan D (or lack thereof) puts a real crimp in the prospective rise in the Big Ten. The fact is, resetting expectations after the first month, neither of these teams has put much separation between preseason expectations and their prospects for the season.

Revised skepticism isn't just for Midwestern powers: I compared the outstanding ND-Michigan game to the barn-burning Miami-Florida State affair a few days earlier, and the readjustments must be due to the initial optimism that followed the 'Canes and 'Noles out of that game, as well, after their flops against Virginia Tech and South Florida. It didn't take them long, either, to start looking pretty much like who we thought they were to begin with.

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  1. ess-eee-seee
    1. Posted by ess-eee-seee Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    I wonder if this post will inspire any irrational responses.
  2. C L
    2. Posted by C L Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Were there some wildly optimistic expectations for Michigan that I missed?
    Michigan is 4-0, has several QB's who can throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield, and has their offense kicking into gear. Yes the defense is terrible, but that is still a big leap away from what most people were expecting from Michigan.
    Was anyone really expecting 8-4 from Michigan? It is hard to see Michigan not going at least .500 down the stretch right now.
  3. Jack
    3. Posted by Jack Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    I'm totally psyched for Notre Dame to ruin another BCS bowl game they have no business playing in by getting torched by three touchdowns. Exciting!
  4. DC
    4. Posted by DC Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:19 pm EDT

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    Records aside, neither team is back. Indiana, Purdue? Really? That's the kind of wins those places are getting excited about?
    Michigan should be happy. Rich Rod has the team on the right path, he's got his freshman QB (who needs to spend some time in the weight room to bulk up some), and winning games will lead to this team getting some talent. I don't think they're better than Ohio St, Penn St, or Iowa...and may be on par with Minnesota, but hey....3-9 to 7, 8 wins and a bowl game is quite an improvement. Michigan will get better as Rich Rod gets his guys in the program. Michigan should be thrilled to death with the improvement, but they should not talk Big Ten title.
    Notre Dame...well, Charlie Weis was supposed to make this College New England. He hasn't (nor has any Belichek disciple). ND has no defense and is getting caught with injuries. Washington, USC, Boston College, UConn, Pitt, and Stanford are 6 of the remaining 8 games which is a significant step up from Mich. St, Nevada, and Purdue. No d + injuries will see them at 7 or 8 again.
  5. Paul A.
    5. Posted by Paul A. Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:53 pm EDT

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    What was the explanation given by Purdue's coach for their timeout with less than a minute to go and ND facing 3rd and goal with the clock running?
  6. CuseFanInSoCal
    6. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:02 pm EDT

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    Greg Robinson is Michigan's defensive coordinator. That's all Orange fans needed to know to know their defense would suck. If Michigan wins a game against a decent team this year, it'll be in a shootout. My theory has always been RichRod hired GRob so he'll have someone to blame and fire when the Wolverines finish 7-5 or so.
    Notre Dame lost to us last year, which is all we neeeded to know to conclude any BCS bowl aspersions for the Irish were absurd. They're going to lose to USC, and drop at least three of five to Pitt, UConn, Washington. Navy, and Stanford. Does anyone outside of South Bend really think otherwise?
  7. Mark R
    7. Posted by Mark R Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:06 pm EDT

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    I agree w/ the overall premise, Matt. Neither ND nor UM have showed us much in the way of being a top team. However, both games are evidence of being able to win close games against an inferior opponent, something that PSU, USC, Cal, Ole Miss, and Okla State can say. If weeks 3 and 4 showed us, parity still reigns supreme and outside of the elite, everyone is ripe for an upset. UM has a true frosh qb, ND didn't have Floyd, Allen or Clausen (for most of the game). Give credit where credit is due, Forcier and Clausen both deserve it. Finding a way to win is an underrated quality in a team, a la OSU in 2002, and both teams are showing it. No one's touting either ND or UM as world beaters, but outside of Alabama, UF, and Texas, numbers 4-35 are probably closer than the perception separating them.
  8. curtwfisher
    8. Posted by curtwfisher Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:51 pm EDT

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    Even with UMs start everyone knew that Tate was going to play like a freshman at some point. With the starting center out 4-6 weeks it won't be the last. Defense has issues but Gerg has done a good job minimizing their obvious weaknesses with his game management. They have stiffened in the redzone when needed and brought pressure at opportune moments in games that have been the difference between winning games that they could have lost. Gerg has never in his career coached defense opposite an offense that can score in under 5 plays like UM has. They have also demonstrated a renewed emphasis on special teams which has had huge impact on the outcome in games so far. RRod has made many key decisions on offense this year that have been the difference in close games. Big departure from Bo-Mo-Lloydball.
    At this point I could care less if they are a top 20 team or not. This is the most entertaining UM team ever. This was the most entertaining UM-IU game since you-know-when and that makes me happy.
    Congrats to IU for delivering and exciting game. The pistol is fun to watch. Bring on the SKI-GUN!!!!! I wish them all the best for the rest of the season.
  9. wingsx2
    9. Posted by wingsx2 Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:07 pm EDT

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    I think Indiana may be an underrated team the Mich loss was their first. Obviously Mich isn't going to win the national championship this year, the def is bad, but no one expected them to even compete for the big ten title and they will do that.
  10. genius_man16
    10. Posted by genius_man16 Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:07 pm EDT

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    Notre Dame Should be 1-3. Hands Down. Charlie Weis should be counting his lucky stars he escaped these last 2 games unscathed. They will probably end up saving his job for one more year.
  11. m
    11. Posted by m Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:57 pm EDT

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    ND should be 4-0. Hands Down. Charlie Weis should make sure ND doesn't use Big Ten refs ever again.
    You know how many TDs ND has had called back because of bad ref'ing? Its close to 4 or 5. ND beats UM hands down if Armando Allen's run is called correctly. Likewise, the MSU game is more of an obvious win if the TD pass to Michael Floyd is called correctly. Similarly, Purdue's loss would be more apparent if Golden Tate's TD reception wasn't called back.
    ND might not be great. I've got no problem with that argument. However, I've seen an alarming number of ND TDs called back. What's up with that? Statistically, its pretty mind boggling to see so many TDs called back.
    Moreover, that doesn't even include all the times UM's DBs committed a felony and were called for nothing. IU made it obvious UM's DBs are atrocious. Its a shame the Big Ten refs don't call an honest game. Ask IU's coach how good those Michigan refs are. I'm sure he'll be able to explain Michigan's improvements very easily.
  12. Damien
    12. Posted by Damien Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:02 pm EDT

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    Really? Running in place? I thought that one of the major signs of being a good team was gutting out a win when your team hasn't played it's best. U-M probably had its worst game on both sides of the ball so far this season, and still came away with the "W". I'll take the ugly wins over losses any week!
    Go Blue!
  13. P
    13. Posted by P Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:15 am EDT

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    m s- I think the touchdowns being called back have more to do with poor line play and a lack of discipline causing Notre Dame to rack up a high number of penalities, particularly holding penalties.
    Actually, never mind- you're probably right. I heard that Jim Delany personally instructed all Big Ten refs to screw Notre Dame over as much as possible. Supposedly, the plan is to get Notre Dame to cancel all future games with Big Ten teams so they can play more games against Toledo and Bowling Green instead, since those bring in huge television ratings and are great for the conference as a whole.
  14. Credit
    14. Posted by Credit Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:00 am EDT

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    m-s, You should thank your lucky stars that the Big Ten decided to suspend one of Purdue's starting O lineman for their game with ND, or the Irish would have lost that game.
  15. Daniel H
    15. Posted by Daniel H Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:13 pm EDT

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    I don't think either of these teams are very good this year but they are both way better than they were last year. In the case of Michigan I think they are going to be very good here in about two more years. That young quaterback of theirs is a stud and with some experience he will be one of the best in the country. Not to mention that Rich Rod will continue to get other guys in there that fit his system and they may be back in the national championship conversation in two years. It pains me to say that too as an SEC fan because I can't stand the Big 10.
  16. CHIPSWON
    16. Posted by CHIPSWON Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:35 pm EDT

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    To M S,
    Whine, whine and more whine.
    Notre Dame was robbed!!!!
    We did not lose, they cheated. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
  17. bigboo's bro
    17. Posted by bigboo's bro Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:42 pm EDT

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    Blah, blah, blah. Two more grotesquely overranked teams. In Michigan's case, they must have bought the officials off to get away with that absolutely horrible interception call. Nonetheless, hats off to RichRod, who I despise, for making his team competitive, and 3-0 is 3-0 bad calls or not.
  18. Brandon
    18. Posted by Brandon Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    From the write-up:
    "Notre Dame's three wins are over teams that are ***1-6*** outside of their losses to the Irish, with losses to Central Michigan, Colorado State and Northern Illinois in that record. The Irish have barely gotten out of two straight, three-point wins against Big Ten also-rans whose ***only victories are over Toledo and Montana State***, respectively, and which have each lost three in a row after those initial cupcake dates."
    Doc, I think your rhetorical flourish got ahead of your counting, there. 2-5, not 1-6: you said it yourself, victorIES (plural) over Toledo and Montana State.
    Not that it really makes ND look more impressive or anything, but it's just ugly when you contradict yourself in back-to-back sentences.
  19. Brandon
    19. Posted by Brandon Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    Oooops, pot calling the kettle black, there: 2-6.
    (excluding ND)
    PU:
    Toledo (W)
    Oregon (L)
    NIU (L)
    MSU:
    Mt St (W)
    CM (L)
    Wisc (L)
    Nev:
    Co St (L)
    Mizzou (L)
  20. JarrodS
    20. Posted by JarrodS Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:37 am EDT

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    No one expected UM to blow the world away, but nevertheless they had a perfect September. Give RichRod some credit -- while the defense is an incredible liability, he's made magic from nothing in regards to the offense. UM's goal should be a bowl game. If they can win all but the marquee games, they may even be able to play on New Year's Day... but that's a stretch.

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