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Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:53 pm EDT

ECU fined for very rational exuberance

You might remember East Carolina's upset of West Virginia waaay back on Saturday, and at some point this might have even seen what happened to a handful of ECU students who decided to celebrate good times on the field (heads up: some brief PG-13 language):

It got much rougher than that, at least for one unlucky kid. As a veteran stormer who's met stadium security face-to-face while wrapped around a goal post he couldn't let go of if he wanted to, the Doc says with confidence that a hands-off observation will suffice in these cases -- as you can see, it's not like a handful of guys and girls armed primarily with a uniform and testosterone have a prayer of actually corralling 10,000 buzzing 19-year-olds moving en masse toward even closer physical communion with other 19-year-olds. This is not a realistic expectation. So why would guards even have the idea they should try?

East Carolina is being fined $10,000 by Conference USA after football fans charged the field to celebrate the Pirates' upset of West Virginia last weekend.

Conference USA said Friday the university also is subject to a possible suspension of future hosting privileges.

The conference says the school violated a policy adopted in June that prohibits public access to competition areas until the visiting team and officials are in the locker rooms.

Oh, lawyers: you're always right. There's a definite, legitimate safety issue with kids running onto the field (just ask this guy) that no university wants any part of. But outside of Attorney Island, there's also a chicken-and-egg quality to fining an institution for behavior it can't realistically control, since, presumably, the fine will lead to the school attempting to control said behavior in ways that lead to, say, cops wailing on students for no particularly good reason. Or, I dunno,

Cops assault kids, school still gets fined. I guess the moral is that -- while it may cost you later -- sometimes, maybe it's better to ignore the rules when they don't make sense and nobody's getting hurt. Do you hear that, Pac Ten refs? Or better yet: don't make zero-tolerance rules against people expressing non-violent excitement to begin with.

(Although, aside from the 'police brutality' part, it was worth the ten grand, wasn't it, ECU?)

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  1. Butt Pirate
    1. Posted by Butt Pirate Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    That cop is giving these fans the ol' golden shower!
  2. jsx353
    2. Posted by jsx353 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    I,m a campus officer at a local college and I was disgusted at what witnessed those officers we're out of control, and let their emotions take over, it all could have been avoided if they would have set a perimeter up and kept the crowd in the stands, but if they still could'nt keep the crowd out at that point all you can do is try and keep them as safe as possible control anybody unruly in a professional manner by using appropiate force not excessive force. those officers who used excessive force should be fired.
  3. stalbrecht
    3. Posted by stalbrecht Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm EDT

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    Rules that dont make any sense?? Ive been at several college football games where people have had to be hospitalized after the postgame celebrations because fans got a little too exuberant. Wait until someone gets killed and then see if think it wouldnt have made any sense for the rule to be enforced. Part of my problem is that I was raised by a program that has too much respect for itself to storm the field . . . ever (Gigem Aggies). Storming the field isnt about football; its about teenagers trying to get their kicks. Tell me running around on the field and tearing down goalposts has to do with winning a football game. These celebration rules exist because that kind of behavior has caused serious problems in the past-and its stupid behavior anyway. Maybe I dont agree with the way the rule was enforced in this case, but that is a different matter.
  4. beatuofa
    4. Posted by beatuofa Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    Um...seriously? A Texas A&M Aggie (a school that I greatly respect and admire, mind you) lecturing other fans about having too much respect to storm the field, and wondering what that has to do with football? A school that features the Aggie Squeeze? (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2006/10/02/my-thats-disturbing-the-aggie-squeeze/) A school that has a list of privileged words? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditions_of_Texas_A&M_University#Privileged_words) I mean, really? Somebody takes themselves wayyyyyyyyy too seriously.
  5. Rhino
    5. Posted by Rhino Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 pm EDT

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    For the few who got their butts corralled and handcuffed, I say good! you got what you deserved! I used to live on campus at ECU and 90% of those kids, were obnoxious yankees, from new jersey and other points north! My only hope is, those Greeneville Cops, got to whale on those little snot-nosed punks, with their billy clubs, before they hauled their butts off to jail!
  6. Alaska Hokie
    6. Posted by Alaska Hokie Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:36 pm EDT

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    Nice troll, Rhino.

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