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Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:59 pm EST

Dogpile on Bob Stoops!

By Matt Hinton

Man, the shots just keep coming at Bob Stoops this week:

"(Oklahoma head coach) Bob Stoops has no chance in the NFL. I’m surprised an owner as smart as (the Broncos’) Pat Bowlen could not figure that out. Stoops is a descendant of Steve Spurrier. He does not work at it. You have to grind it in the NFL. He will be chewed up and spit out. I hope more of these college coaches get jobs in the NFL. It just makes my job easier. They don’t know what they don’t know. It’s a different game."

Ouch. Good thing Bob didn't get the job, I guess. I'd like to stick up for Stoopsy, who's getting a really bad rap these days for a guy who's won so many games and conference championships at a school 12 years removed from its last conference title when he was hired, but he obviously has no idea what he's doing. Besides, I'm no good at projecting players to the NFL and probably worse at projecting coaches. It really is a totally different game.

NFL coaches, for example, don't spend half their year on the road courting teenagers who could spurn them at any second, or schmoozing impatient boosters who could help with the stadium expansion, or figuring out how to adjust the offense for a bunch of fringe three-stars who couldn't walk on at half the schools on next fall's schedule. I guess the pro stalwarts who have struggled with the transition -- NFL guys who really know what they know, like Bill Callahan, Ron Zook, Mike Sherman, Al Groh, Paul Hackett, Chan Gailey, Greg Robinson and (of course) Charlie "Now it's time for the X's and O's" Weis, but just can't find any amateurs smart enough to absorb what they know -- just need(ed) to get back to where they could really grind themselves into an early grave and leave it to layabouts like Stoops and Spurrier and free-wheeling Urban Meyer to win all the college trophies while maintaining characteristics of a human being. Suckers.

Speaking of which, how are those trophy cases these days, Coach Spurrier? Coach?

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  1. squirrelyearl
    1. Posted by squirrelyearl Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm EDT

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    I don't think the NFL game is as different from the college game as much as people claim. Obviously jobs as far as being a head coach differ pretty heavily, but the game is rather similar. It's like being a truly successful college coach requires adaptation to what your circumstances are. I don't know if Stoops necessarily has these adaptation skills, but he's still a really great coach. Unfortunately though, you throw things when it's really on the line enough and you lose your job. Same thing happens in the pros, just ask Marty Schottenheimer.
  2. gtne91
    2. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    did gailey really struggle in transition? isnt the gailey equilibrium an absolute constant, whether college, pros or pee wee football?
  3. marcillac
    3. Posted by marcillac Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:06 pm EDT

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    Careful with those sharp instruments when you operate on the NFL coaches going in for their annual triple bipass. Ouch!
  4. The Thrilla in Vanilla
    4. Posted by The Thrilla in Vanilla Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:01 pm EDT

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    Wow. A whole blog written entirely in thinly veiled sarcasm. What a fresh, clever, and entirely great idea.
  5. CuseFanInSoCal
    5. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 pm EDT

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    FWIW, I think Herm Edwards, who's been uneven at best as a pro head coach, would probably be an excellent college coach. He gets along great with his players, and is an excellent motivator; I'd bet he could recruit and get college kids to play well for him. And I suspect if Saban had stuck it out in Miami, he would have succeeded eventually; it seems like he's got the right kind of details-freak mentality for the NFL.
    Pete Carroll, FWIW, was actually a halfway decent pro coach (at least, he won more games than he lost, and that's more meaningful in the NFL than in college), though he's obviously a much better college coach.
  6. LongTrans
    6. Posted by LongTrans Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 pm EDT

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    PLEASE take Stoops! He's an embarrassment to the Big XII. Besides, he could use a big dose of humble pie the NFL so frequently dishes out. Yum! Ol' Goose Egg Bob. What a legacy.
  7. Zachary K
    7. Posted by Zachary K Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:00 pm EDT

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    #7: I'm willing to bet *thinking* UT fans would also love to see Stoops go, but for very different reasons.
  8. LongTrans
    8. Posted by LongTrans Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 pm EDT

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    @8: I 'think' 45-35 is cool too. He's a loser, any way you slice it. 0-5 = OU SUCKS!
  9. mikemapes2
    9. Posted by mikemapes2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    I would agree with the whole article except..."NFL coaches,... don't spend half their year on the road courting teenagers who could spurn them at any second, or schmoozing impatient boosters who could help with the stadium expansion,.." He has NO trouble getting talent (Jason White and Sam Bradford ring a bell? - they should, they are Heisman Trophy winners! ). Most Oklahoma players anyway want to go to OU instead of Oklahoma State - it's not like he is twisting their arms He also gets jobs for them where they don't have to work , be put on probation until 2010, whine to the NCAA that it is unfair so the NCAA restates them and then they are in the BCS title game in 2 years...Go Figure! - I smell something more dirtier than USC at work here! .. and "...schmoozing impatient boosters..."? Heck, they get alot more state funding than OSU (It helps when your college president is a former Governor of the state!) If it wasn't for T. Boone Pickens, OK St. wouldn't be getting a dime!
  10. Zachary K
    10. Posted by Zachary K Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:00 pm EDT

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    Still can't figure out why I'm doing this, but: I can slice the "loser" thing one way: he's 4-6 in bowls. If you want to put all your stock in exhibition games, that's fine. I'd guess OU fans will take the .820 win "percentage", 7 division titles, 6 conference titles, national title, and, why not, 6-4 record against Texas.
  11. BradDawg
    11. Posted by BradDawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Count your blessings, OU fans. About 117 other D1 teams would have loved the opportunity to be where you guys were Thursday night.
  12. LongTrans
    12. Posted by LongTrans Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 pm EDT

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    @11: 0-5 just seems to stick out in everyone's mind. I mean, what happened in the NC game? Here's what happened: Chokelahoma lived up to it's expectations. As I said before the game, Stoops will fall to the occassion, as he usually does. 0-5. Just can't get past that. Like I said, Boomer Losers are an embarrassment to the Big XII. Sorry, but that, 'just glad to be in the game' mentality doesn't cut it anymore. But I guess you fans have just gotten used to it I suppose. That's what 0-5 does to you. Losers. Goose Egg Bob. Yeah, that's what we'll call him. What a disgrace. Texas 45 Chokelahoma 35, losers. Florida 24 Chokelahoma 14, losers. Any way you slice it, losers. And Bradford should hand deliver the Heisman to Tebow, because he sure doesn't deserve it. Keep Sam Clean. What a crock! Or should I say Gator. OU STILL SUCKS! 0-5. Ugly man, just ugly.
  13. J M
    13. Posted by J M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    It's the details. The NFL will kill you on details. It's tape, tape, tape and more tape. You put your team through full week practices and full week study. College doesn't do that. It consist of limited hours of practice a week. Limited workouts. It's rah rah fun and traveling to convince the guy you want to play for your school. A much different skill set.
    Pro Game, playoffs, Dolphins vs Ravens: Ed Reed knows that Pennington locks onto guys when he's rattled. He's studied him on countless hours of tape and has noted it. As the play starts he runs halfway across the field to were noodle arm's eyes are locked to get his last pick of the game. You don't see that type of detail from coaches or players in college.
    That said, I love college ball. I love the creativity of the offenses and defenses. I love the raw talent.
    The NFL is a whole different beast, in that game I love the beauty of the perfect play call/read and the unreal reaction speed. You are a yard away from the first down with open space and BAM, you get tackled a yard away from the first down by just turning.
    Stoops is a good college coach. We know it and he knows it. Why would he leave? Pro Football would eat him alive. No one would care about his great rapport with the kids. They only care about his great rapport with winning.
  14. E-Dawg
    14. Posted by E-Dawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    @12: you know i think you are the only person that 0-5 sticks in your mind, i mean nobody else on here is saying it. i bet you dont even have a team that you stick with through the good games or bad. i bet you are one of those people that start being a fan of a certain team at the start of the season of whoever the experts say is going to win the national championship. its okay if you admit that, because admitting your problem is the first step in finding ONE team that you cheer for no matter what.
  15. FarmerJ
    15. Posted by FarmerJ Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    Way to go Bob. Lose the two biggest games of your season, keep it up
  16. Dingus
    16. Posted by Dingus Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    LongTrans, you're suck a frickin tool. Your opinion of Stoops is so obviously rooted in hate for the team you have nightmares about, you can't even make a point that makes sense. Doesn't really matter though because nobody really takes your comments seriously anymore. Stoops is the best thing to happen to OU in the past 25 years. Deal with it, dude.
  17. Mark N
    17. Posted by Mark N Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:29 pm EDT

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    109-24-0 is not losing to me LongTrans. I guess you watched a diiferent game than most of us did. I bet you're a bandwagon fan huh? By the way what flavor of the month do you support now?
  18. Dingus
    18. Posted by Dingus Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    MJ, You forgot to mention the hookers & strippers. I don't doubt it makes a big impression on most 18 year olds. But at least we know the ones that end up in Norman are there for the honor of wearing the crimson and cream. I hate that we have to wait until next October to play them. I have a premonition that McCoy, Granger and English are going to be fighting over Colt scraps.

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