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It's been a rough month for SEC officials. We know because the SEC has told us so: When Georgia fans were up in arms over a phantom taunting call against A.J. Green following a late touchdown in the Bulldogs' loss to LSU, the league went out of its way to publicly apologize for the call, and when the same crew was behind a couple heinous flags (and non-flags) in Florida's win over Arkansas two weeks later, the conference not only singled out the bad calls but went ahead and put the offending crew on ice with a three-game suspension to maintain its credibility.

What all that "integrity" and "transparency" bought the league, though, was a lot of bellyaching from coaches who felt more freedom to join in the head office's hit parade: In the span of a few days, the SEC levied officials reprimands against three different head coaches -- Arkansas' Bobby Petrino, Mississippi State's Dan Mullen and Tennessee's Lane Kiffin -- for publicly trashing officials after losses, and could have targeted Vanderbilt coach Bobby Johnson and Tennessee assistant Ed Orgeron for complaints, too.

The official reprimands have been coming so fast and furious, in fact, that SEC commish Mike Slive has decided to skip the standing "three strikes" polcy and skip straight to the finin' and suspendin' phase of the process the next time he hears so much as a peep about the refs:

Commissioner Mike Slive told The Associated Press in a phone interview Friday that coaches who violate the conferences' ethics rules against criticizing officials in public will face a fine or suspension instead of receiving public reprimands when they first act up.

"It became clear to me after last week that I was no longer interested in reprimands and the conference athletic directors and university presidents unanimously agreed," said Slive, in his eighth season as the head of the SEC.

Slive is basically responding like a teacher who's lost control of a rowdy classroom: Give them an inch, they will most definitely take a mile. So now he has to take back the inch, and maybe a mortgage payment or two with him if he has to. The rest of the class can thank Lane and Dan for ruining it for everybody.

But what did Slive expect to happen when he effectively hung his own refs out like serially incompetent piñatas and took a couple solid whacks of his own? If you're not willing to give everyone a few swings, don't start the party.

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  1. dorfineer
    1. Posted by dorfineer Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:52 pm EDT

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    I'm glad I'm a fan of the Big 10 where our refs don't suck...er...wait...crap.
    Fail! Me...and refs in general...
  2. Sabes
    2. Posted by Sabes Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    Get off your high horses SEC officials!! If the game officials made mistakes, the SEC needs to hear about it, whether it comes from the fans, players, or coaches. Everyone has the right to speak their minds, especially when they're right.
    Shut up, listen, investigate, and make corrections!
  3. just4funsies
    3. Posted by just4funsies Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:16 pm EDT

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    Sorry Sabes, but there is a CODE OF CONDUCT in the SEC, and all coaches agree to abide by it. It says no criticism of officials, period. What good are the rules if not enforced? Nobody dissed the SEC for disciplining refs for bad calls, so there should be no complaints about making the coaches toe the line, either. Reprimands do no good, especially when idiots like Lame Kiffin are concerned. And the fines won't help, either, but suspending a coach will DEFINITELY zip up a few lips. It's about time, in my opinion.
  4. MOSScomeBACK2vikes
    4. Posted by MOSScomeBACK2vikes Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:52 pm EDT

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    Florida is gonna KISS THA BABY against Uga
  5. John
    5. Posted by John Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:59 pm EDT

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    Sooooo, what Slive should have done was pulled a "Mike Periera" and lamely defended the calls by saying they "conformed to the letter of the rule", when everyone watching knows he's FOS?
    The SEC handled this perfectly. They called out and actually did something about the atrocious calls that were made, and when the coaches get a little too loud they'll deal with that, too.
    The NFL could learn from this. They don't allow coaches a whole lot of room to complain, but they are horrible when it comes to addressing bad calls by their referees.
  6. VICTOR
    6. Posted by VICTOR Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:14 pm EDT

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    How much indirect Fereral money do these places get, to not, follow the freedom of speech allowed by the supposed Constitution and Bill Of Rights. Lets cut tax subsidies for stadiums, fly overs etc. till free speech is allowsd.
  7. just4funsies
    7. Posted by just4funsies Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:33 pm EDT

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    Yo, vhodge...
    Would you expect to get fired if your boss heard you tell one of his customers to F.O.? Your boss expects you to conduct yourself in a professional manner as a condition of your employment. These coaches are high-profile employees of their respective universities, ALL of whom have pledged to maintain a certain level of conduct. Freedom Of Speech has nothing to do with it AT ALL. I think you'd be better described by a different "FOS", as in Full Of Shytt.
  8. JOE G
    8. Posted by JOE G Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:29 pm EDT

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    It appears that Florida can "do no wrong". They usually have 15 on the field == 11 players and 4 refs! touchy,touchy!
    Flagy, Flagy! Don't breath on me, or flagy, flagy!
  9. MDR
    9. Posted by MDR Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:20 pm EDT

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    whoever no 3, since you know the code conduct why not just sight it for us or do you believe in making comments without research. Oh I forgo plagiarism is ok in the SEC. I guess you have spotless driving record for following the rules. Since your official, review the tapes look at the Florida vs Arkansas Game, look at the penalty ratio when, specifically when the calls were made. I saw several holding calls including the guys on ESPN who said there were some questionable calls. Oh, I am sure you saw MSU vs. Florida game the stupid replay official called the interception returned for a TD by Florida good. Everybody saw that bogus call. Fact of the matter people like yourself, with outstanding experience, can call out people like Lane Kiffin without observing the facts. But the again your probably one GREAT BIG FACT.
  10. MDR
    10. Posted by MDR Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:20 pm EDT

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    whoever no 3, since you know the code conduct why not just sight it for us or do you believe in making comments without research. Oh I forgo plagiarism is ok in the SEC. I guess you have spotless driving record for following the rules. Since your official, review the tapes look at the Florida vs Arkansas Game, look at the penalty ratio when, specifically when the calls were made. I saw several holding calls including the guys on ESPN who said there were some questionable calls. Oh, I am sure you saw MSU vs. Florida game the stupid replay official called the interception returned for a TD by Florida good. Everybody saw that bogus call. Fact of the matter people like yourself, with outstanding experience, can call out people like Lane Kiffin without observing the facts. But the again your probably one GREAT BIG FACT.
  11. ROBERT G
    11. Posted by ROBERT G Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:26 pm EDT

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    the problems for the sec's mr slive and his conference level associates and officiating crews, along with similar individuals at the other conferences and at the ncaa levels. are that their huge salaries and expense accounts are all paid for, directly or indirectly, by the publicly traded companies of which we are shareholders and by all members of the public who buy the products and services of their advertisers based on representations that these are real college football and other college sporting events, participation in which is limited to real student athletes, and that the games are being officiated by honest officials who are accountable to the public for their conduct, pursuant to sets of rules which are evenly applied.
    we thank the coaches who have done so for making public comments about dishonest officiating. the so called sportsmanship conduct rules were never intended to function as walls of secrecy to force coaches and student athletes to kepp quiet about dishonest officiating and rules enforcement in college football or in other college sports or to serve as cover for dishonest officiating and rules enforcement con operations.
    mr. slive and those who participate with him in these coverups are just going to get very embarrassed in courtrooms all over the us in the same way that certain ncaa officials were extremely embarrassed in judge cooper's courtroom during their unsuccessful attempts at trial and on appeal to provide any legal justification supporting their position that the public did not have a right to full disclosure of all of their records relating to the ncaa's investigation of academic fraud at the florida state athletic department.
    mr. slive and his associates may actually have the leverage to force coaches and student athletes to keep quiet.
    however, the days when mr. slive or any of his associates, at the conference or ncaa levels, can avoid full accountability to the public ended on 10/15/2009 when the ncaa had to throw in the towel in our disclosure actions against them in the civil courts.
    if nothing improper is being done, then mr. slive and his associates will have no valid objection to voluntary full public disclosure and transparency.
    the evidence indicates that mr. slive and his associates do have a great deal to hide from the public, just as the con artists who used to run enron and mci worldcom did before we brought them down, in the civil courts, with our civil rico actions.
    in our cases, the threats of mr. slive and his associates to muzzle honest coaches to keep quiet about baltant acts of dishonest officiating and coverups of rules violations for their own personal profits are simply outrageous.
    after all, mr. slive and his associates are paid with our money and are accountable to us, as they will find out in the civil courts in public trials before honest judges and juries whom they cannot terrororize with their inquisition style threats.
  12. shackleford24
    12. Posted by shackleford24 Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:41 pm EDT

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    Let me sum up Mr. Slive's comments..........."Look fellas, we want an undefeated Florida and Alabama playing for the SEC championship.........whatever we have to do to get them there, we will do........... So just keep your mouths shut, and be good boys."
    Yeah, that's what I heard coming out of his mouth.
  13. Kingfisher
    13. Posted by Kingfisher Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:28 am EDT

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    Slive has already lost total control and is rapidly losing respect. His lack of defending the conference against the NCAA (the Alabama textbook deal) is an example of this fact. There are bad calls in football as we are only human and that is like life, part of the game. But it has gotten to the point of... well lets just say if and I believe it is only coincedental the calls are for a BCS team (s). It looks dirty and something smells rotten. Maybe we are all going overboard but at what point does it become apparently obvious?
    I love my Vols and love the SEC. I love to hate Florida and Bama but want to see them do well. But one thing has become clear to me. Mr. Slive flexes his muscles against SEC coaches but won't flex when we need him to against the NCAA. Now this rotten smell issue, a lot of money at stake in a BCS championship team and that is for the Conference and the Commissioner as well.
    Go Vols and run the table on the rest of this season. Go SEC but not at the point of cheating.
  14. bill
    14. Posted by bill Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:40 am EDT

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    Is it just me or do a lot of the bogus/absent calls seem to be in Florida's favor (goal line fumbles, offensive pass interference, etc)?
  15. just4funsies
    15. Posted by just4funsies Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:43 am EDT

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    Hey MDR, your blathering doesn't even justify a comment. Stick your head back in your @ss where it was.
  16. Studmuffin
    16. Posted by Studmuffin Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:26 am EDT

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    "why can't we all just get along?"................"God Bless Us All, Everyone!"
  17. David
    17. Posted by David Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:54 am EDT

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    It is like I said before. Playing at the Swamp is beginning to look like playing basketball at Cameron Indoor Stadium. We all know Duke basketball gets EVERY call at home, and now Florida is becoming the football equivilant. It is no wonder they stay unbeaten. Everytime an opponent makes a big play, the refs call it back. Congrats on a 3-peat. You "earned" it, Florida.
  18. Kirkland
    18. Posted by Kirkland Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:15 am EDT

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    Hey ROBERT, a court of law is not where Lane wants to be. He implied that SEC officials are conspiring in favor of Florida and Alabama. Take a real close look at the 4th quarter of the UT-UF game. UF was flagged for celebration whereas for a very similar play UT got a pass. Also UCLA was assessed a phantom safety in the previous game. While Laney is correct that the refereeing is bad, he is incorrect in finding a conspiracy in favor of a certain team. If he persists in making false claims then he very well may find himself in that court of law that you seem to think the SEC officials are afraid of.
  19. just4funsies
    19. Posted by just4funsies Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:51 am EDT

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    One more thing for you, MDR, since you wanted corroboration, it's in the Southeastern Conference Bylaws, Article 10, Section 5, Paragraph 1. Check it out for yourself, if you can actually READ, you ignoramus.
    Oh, and the word you MEANT to use is "cite", not "site". Fool.
  20. MATT B
    20. Posted by MATT B Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:13 am EDT

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    big 10 is just cold and boring .it will just put you to sleep. and when was the last time it even matter!!!!
  21. Albert
    21. Posted by Albert Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:13 pm EDT

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    Kiffin is following in the footsteps of Fulmer except he's stepped it up a few notches and none of the other coaches respect him.
  22. boasocal
    22. Posted by boasocal Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:47 pm EDT

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    This conference is due for a major smackdown. Poor academic schools, dominated by football, playing weak sister schedules and bragging on games decided by two points every week....the commissioner of this league ought to fine himself. The Presidents of these so-called schools ought to WAKE UP!! The league is under the microscope......Stanford, UCLA and USC are all ranked academically ahead of all of these schools and don't play D IAA programs, academically excellent to boot. Stanford is the top university in DI athletically and a top 10 school.....wakeup SEC and get your collective heads out of the football clouds. The Presidents of these schools ought to be replaced by their respective Boards of Trustees. They worry about criticism of officials? They need to focus on the real world of academics and the purpose of institutions of higher education. Vanderbilt is the only school in the SEC that is even academically competitive with the top schools in this nation. Keep focusing on football, and just continue to get further and further behind. Football and NASCAR, and you wonder why the nation struggles?
  23. hookers4jesus
    23. Posted by hookers4jesus Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:16 pm EDT

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    SEC is a joke. play some real teams for a change. troy, charleston southern, florida international univ, are just some of the examples of of weak schedules being rewarded. if a team like USC played those teams for their non conference schedule, instead of going to Ohio state or ND, they would never be ranked above 10. but those 3 teams i listed are all on ONE teams schedule and that team is ranked #1? wtf is that crap. SEC would never win a national title if there was a playoff system. they would never be able to play and win 3 or 4 games in a row vs true top ranked teams. wont happen. SEC isnt very good, just uses stats played against division 2 teams to boost theirs. the only team in the SEC that could possibly win a playoff tournament right now is Bama.and its still very very unlikely. Big 10, Pac 10, and a couple of teams from the Big 12 are the only ones who could win a 16 team playoff format. the rest of the conferences would just be great side stories for getting to the 2nd or 3rd round.
  24. Go Sharks 2010
    24. Posted by Go Sharks 2010 Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:24 pm EDT

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    Any one notice that the majority of these crappy calls in the SEC are in favor of Florida and Alabama, and the majority if the crappy calls in the Big Ten are in favor of Iowa?
    Almost seems as if the officials are doing anything they can to help keep one of their teams unbeaten and in the hunt for the national championship.
    Of course, that would have to some kind of orchestrated conspiracy amongst the conference officials, which could NEVER happen in this wonderful non-professional, non-money-dominated sport, right????????
  25. Wordsmith
    25. Posted by Wordsmith Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    Just take a look at Indiana's touchdown that was later overturned and called incomplete today. Both announcers, me and I assume the entire nation outside of Hawkeye country saw a TD, but the officials saw the opposite and Hoosiers miss the field goal.
    This ain't just the SEC, because of this BCS B*** S***, I am starting to believe that the NCAA is telling officials, "when in doubt, rule for the big powers."
    NCAA football is going the way the NBA did things in the 90's. Make sure the teams we want in the finals win.

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