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Two teams. Team A narrowly defeats a defending division champion and consistent powerhouse that came in ranked in the top 25 by every significant outlet, and by most insignificant ones. Team B is completely crushed by a supposedly borderline outfit with a 6-10 conference record the last two years and that barely snuck onto one of the major preseason ballots while being left out of the other entirely. So which team is "better"?

However the coaches in the USA Today poll define it, Team A -- otherwise known as UCLA, opportunistic conquerer of the coaches' 18th-ranked team in the preseason, Tennessee, on Monday night -- remains superior to Team B, Clemson, which demonstrated precisely zero positive attributes against the very same Alabama team the coaches narrowly omitted from their initial ballot. The Tigers come in No. 22 in the Coaches poll, released today, four spots in front of the Bruins, who head the "Also Receiving Votes" category at No. 26. What a country!

The AP avoids falling victim to the same formulaic shuffling ("they lost bad, so a ten-spot drop seems about right . . . ") by relegating Clemson to the also-ran bin and ascending the Bruins to No. 23. It also rewards Alabama's big win more robustly, bumping the Tide from unranked to No. 13, where the coaches move Bama from 24th to 17th.

There's one thing they can both agree on: Southern Cal is totally, totally awesome. Whatever reservations the pollsters had about the Trojans that kept them from ranking SC No. 1 last month were thoroughly absolved by the monsoon of cardinal and gold touchdowns in Charlottesville. And by "reservations," I mean "Mark Sanchez." The sometimes sketchy offense looked good enough for the coaches to slide USC ahead of Georgia into the top slot, and for the AP to pull the rare double jump, bouncing SC from third to first, ahead of UGA and Ohio State. The Trojans were brilliant pretty much all the way around, although maybe the voters also had Beanie Wells' foot and Georgia's big lineman injuries in mind. And they do know Virginia was going to be terrible no matter who the Cavs played, right?

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Photo of Stafon Johnson and teammates celebrating via Getty Images.

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  1. IDGAD
    1. Posted by IDGAD Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:27 pm EDT

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    If SC can keep from being assessed excessive celebration penalties (perhaps by pretending they didn't witness the score) they might not only go undefeated but unscored upon, as well. Just kidding.
  2. GatorPhan
    2. Posted by GatorPhan Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    The obvious lesson from this weekend- schedule a cupcake opener- just pick a cupcake the voters have seen before. Yeah yeah I know that Virginia was probably good when USC scheduled them, but it was pretty lucky for them as I don't see Virginia as being spectacularly better than most of the softies any other top 5 teams had on the schedule.
    What I really want to know is why no ECU love? They knocked off a top 20 team. South Carolina beat a nobody and snuck into the rankings, and Utah was trying to give the game back to an awful looking Michigan- I'd rather see some Purple Pirate love if just for the fact that their game was actually watchable.
  3. mangere_bridge
    3. Posted by mangere_bridge Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    cupcake selection is an inexact science, as vtech and pitt fans now know.
    i would expect ecu to turn up in tafkasmq's ballot. i also expect west virginia to beat them by 20, and then we can go back to ignoring them.
  4. Tony
    4. Posted by Tony Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:16 pm EDT

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    USC did so well that it was ranked twice in the top 25 (Trojans & Gamecocks).
  5. Jerry M
    5. Posted by Jerry M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm EDT

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    So #1 Georgia Beats A notoriously tough program for their Division who by the way moved to division 1A and they drop in the polls , How do you guys figure this stuff? I mean come on Georgia wins big and Falls, but If God Forbid they were to Lose ,A big game they would become non-exsistent in the polls. Whats that all about?oHH! I forgot they gave up some points with their slightlly better than PRACTICE SQUAD!.
  6. Eric B
    6. Posted by Eric B Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    So....can someone PLEASE tell me how Penn State could move up from 22 to 18 after whipping a Division II team? There should be a rule: you can't move up unless you beat a Division I school. That is absolutely rediculous.
  7. mangere_bridge
    7. Posted by mangere_bridge Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Penn State moved up four spots because Clemson, VTech, Tennessee and Illinois all CONSPIRED! to lose their first week games. I demand an NCAA investigation.
    I hear JoePa tried to pay off Mark Richt as well, but the Bulldogs refused to take a dive against the notoriously tough Georgia Southern. Except Jeff Owens. (I kid, I hope Owens comes back next year.)
  8. gtne91
    8. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    Georgia actually went up in the Coaches Poll, from 1438 pts to 1442, USC just went up more. In the AP, however, UGA lost 22 pts.
  9. WE-KNOW-WHO-OWNS-USCjr.
    9. Posted by WE-KNOW-WHO-OWNS-USCjr. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    SC (the real USC) is going to beat Ohio St - " liked a tied up goat ".
    SC (the wanna be USC) will probably lose to every team that finishes with a winning record.
    They couldn't do anything against NCST , who was playing 2nd string QB, and 3rd string RB and this was at home.
    The crowd was SILENT, realizing how bad they looked , till NCSt gave them the ball twice inside the 15 .
  10. Spazzy McGee
    10. Posted by Spazzy McGee Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:39 pm EDT

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    Well, team "C," or California, which should be above both of them, did not budge in the polls.

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