Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:33 pm EST
Here is Nick Saban, talking Wednesday evening about many things, among them the axe that fell on Tommy Tuberville earlier in the day (hang around: he brings it up early and again later on):
There seem to be two perspectives coming from the Auburn side of things, though there's really only one from the national perspective, briefly summed up in the instant reaction here: Tuberville was 85-40 over 10 years, had the 11th-highest win percentage in the country and third-best in the SEC in the eight years between his first season (1999) and his last, went undefeated in 2004, had a winning record against top-10 and top-25 teams and beat Alabama six straight times.
That's a near-impeccable resumé in the big picture, and the reason a large segment of Tiger fans are hurt, sickened, angry and ashamed while hugely successful, respected coaches like Saban are left to think, "I guess I'm 5-7 away from the same thing."
You'll find the other side at The Joe Cribbs Car Wash, who is appreciative of Tubs' overall body of work, but can see his next two weeks of posts unfolding before him:
I'm going to end up a broken record on this over the next several weeks (or months, or years), but: this was NOT a case of Auburn having "one bad year." Statistically, the 2006 team was in no way an 11-2 team and represented a substantial step down from the 2005 quality team. 2007 was another dramatic step down, this time with the losses to accompany it. And the 2008 record is not a fluke: Auburn is tied for 107th in the country in offensive yards-per-play and was a missed Miss. St. field goal and a botched Tennessee handoff from going winless in the SEC.
This is the lament of someone who's watched the games and had a sinking feeling in his stomach long before it showed up on the record. I know what it's like to have a vastly different opinion than the media looking from the outside in about the direction of a beloved program under a largely successful coach; in Jerry's case at TJCCW, as he pointed out two weeks ago and again Wednesday, that malaise that showed finally showed up in the record has been present in the declining level of Auburn's average play over the last five years:

Jerry is patient enough to emphasize that he would have preferred to have Tuberville back for an 11th season. But when you consider watching that decline in person, you can understand his forgiving attitude toward the administration -- if, in fact, it actually was the administration's decision rather than Tuberville's, which isn't certain at this point.
So Tuberville and Fulmer, long-tenured, championship-winning coaches with career winning percentages above 60 percent, one of them at his alma mater, have been shown the door. Such is life when Urban Meyer, Nick Saban and Mark Richt are glowering from the opposite sideline, making a mint and turning bricks into gold in two or three years. And when the new kingpins get slightly complacent and briefly lose ground to the next round of mercenaries, Saban is right: He'll be next. If you're going cutthroat, shelling out $4 million a year for championship games, mega-payouts from bowls and huge gates, you can't afford luxuries like patience and rebuilding.
That brings us to Notre Dame, where, in contrast to Fulmer and Tuberville, there isn't much of a debate about the Irish's decision to bring back Charlie Weis: the Chicago Tribune thinks it's a bad idea, the Sun-Times' Neil Hayes says four years is long enough to evaluate anyone, the South Bend Tribune says Weis' return proves an ugly double standard, Rakes of Mallow makes the case for firing Weis and the Blue-Gray Sky just assumes the school is keeping the seat warm for Weis' successor. No one publicly evaluating Notre Dame's thinks Weis has any long-term prospects except Jack Swarbrick, who's opinion happens to be the only one that matters.
That is loyalty, patience and commitment to a man who has led ND to its worst two-year run in program history. And it is universally expected to fail miserably.
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A better comparison would be Tuberville's last four seasons versus the four years after this one when Chase Daniel, and presumably Jeremy Maclin via the draft too, will be gone. When Jason Campbell, Cadillac Williams, and Ronnie Brown left, it was the beginning of the end in Auburn. Whether Daniel's and Maclin's departures are the beginning of the end for Pinkel will be seen over the course of the next four seasons.
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And I just disagree, Ken. Saban isn't misrepresented in any way. I am not "obliged" to indulge his pretensions when paraphrasing. The straight quote is provided for you. 'I' and 'We' in this context are interchangeable, they carry precisely the same meaning, and in fact, 'I' communicates his meaning more effectively.
This is a very petty argument, and I wouldn't even comment on it if I didn't sense an element of "coach worship" behind that critique; coach worship is the Web equivalent of bamboo shoots under my fingernails. I cannot imagine Saban or anyone else regarding his words as so infallible as to make the application of the "Royal We" even slightly relevant when his exact, literal meaning is both presented in video and then transcribed accurately.
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The same question probably provides a significant portion of the answer in respect of what happened at Notre Dame: "Who else IS out there". Given the size of the buyout, the youth of the team and the lack of a viable (and financially feasible - see bellow) alternatives, the decision is more easily understood. Urban Meyer might in fact be a possibility at $50 ($60?) million garanteed, but can they afford that? Moreover, no one, not Urban Meyer, not Nick Saban not Pete Carrol will reproduce a Florida, Bama, USC or even an Ohio State (adjusted for weather) in South Bend. As you yourself wrote a couple of weeks ago that weather, academics and other factors make it out of the question that Notre Dame will compete for MNC on a regular basis. 9-3 records, with the occasional BCS Bowl are really the most that can be reasonbaly attained.
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Are we kidding ourselves? Why in the world Auburn let Tuberville go is beyond my ability to understand. As you writers preach week after week, season after season, SEC is a difficult turf to play and the guy had a winning record.
Regarding Weis, do you all think that the University and the Coach were completely in the oblivion regarding the depth chart? Notre Dame recruiting, with exception of the second TW class, which included Brady Quinn et al, was bad since the Davie era. The consequence of having bad recruiting classes year after year is a complete lack of depth in the depth chart. Even Pete Carroll was aware of that deficiency. Unless ND would tab into the Junior College pool, there was no way to avoid disastrous seasons as it was already written in the wall for anyone to see. Any other explanation is simply a pathological denial or a façade to attempt to hide the obvious.
CW was given one more year because anybody with little insight into recruiting could see that there was no way to avoid 2007 or 2008. I honestly think that changes will be coming as this year Junior Class should have stepped up to the plate and they did not; ND could have been a 9-3 or 8-4 team this season and they failed miserably by not been able to finish games. The inoffensive line was pathetic at times and the main reason, I believe, for ND ineffective offensive unit.
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