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Tuesday's great Kansas mystery is solved, so to speak: The Lawrence Journal-World confirms today that the players only meeting with athletic director Lew Perkins to discuss "concerns" about coach Mark Mangino originated with a complaint by senior linebacker Arist Wright, who said Mangino "poked him the chest" before the Jayhawks' surprising loss to Colorado last month, the first in an ongoing, five-game conference slide after a 5-0 start. Other reports elaborate that Mangino also grabbed and yelled at Wright in addition to poking him for laughing during a walk-through or practice, but the specifics seem less damning implication that Mangino's work with players is consistently, well, not safe for work once his facial-hue threat level reaches "Eggplant":

(In case you didn't get the hint, this clip is not necessarily safe for work. You have been warned)

Several articles suggest parents of former players have met with Perkins and are organized with multiple complaints unrelated to the alleged poking incident. (One unidentified mother told ESPN,"a majority of parents I believe would tell you that they are not surprised by this investigation.") The Journal-World pulls out a two-year-old incident in which Mangino was accused of verbally berating a student for issuing him one of dozens of parking tickets he accumulated in a zone near his office as an example of Mangino's fury. (A tip from a campus parking-ticket vet, coach: Once the number climbs into the hundreds, they can be pieced together and worn as extra insulation on cold mornings. DIY!) He was characteristically terse Tuesday when he told reporters I may have lost some people around here, but not my players." The implication -- that Mangino is a ticking time bomb liable to go off on just about anyone beneath him on the ladder -- is clear enough.

But just as only Nixon could go to China, only Kansas City Star columnist and noted heavyweight Jason Whitlock could possibly bring the issue back to Mangino's weight:

I can relate to Mangino’s struggle. He’s three or four inches shorter than me, and he weighs anywhere from 450 to 500 pounds. He’s a public figure in a demanding, high-stress job.

The weight and the stress form a perfect recipe for depression. They can put your mind in a very negative place. They can make you moody and volatile.
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In more than seven years of covering Mangino's Jayhawks, I’ve never heard anyone associated with the program describe him as "happy."

Mangino coaches from an angry place. It’s not surprising, to me, given his weight problem. ... At his age (53) and weight, Mangino cannot sustain the necessary energy level to positively influence his players. His team is being engulfed by his negative energy, a dark spirit driven by his excess weight.

"Negative energy driven by excess weight" is putting it much more nicely than some other people have, but it amounts to the same basic accusation: Mangino is an angry man who doesn't treat players -- or perhaps anyone else -- with respect, for whatever reason.

No one seems to be suggesting that might immediately cost him his job, especially off one of the best two-year spans in Kansas history in 2007-08, but for Mangino's sake, he'd better hope it doesn't come down to salvaging a winning season: The 5-5 Jayhawks are a staggering four-touchdowns underdogs Saturday at Texas, and close the season against Missouri, which bounced back from a rough month with its best win of the year last week at Kansas State. I wouldn't want to be in the locker room in Arrowhead Stadium after KU had just been dealt its seventh straight loss and its first losing record since 2004, anyway, and especially not with Mangino Rage simmering above a hot seat.

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  1. Mat
    1. Posted by Mat Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:08 pm EST

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    Mangina's history of anger and violence is well known. En route to Kansas City for the first Border Showdown vs. Missouri, Mark had to stop an ask for directions at a as station. He assaulted the attendant after their exchange:
    "Can you tell me how to get back to 435?"
    "Cut off your legs."
  2. BigHoss
    2. Posted by BigHoss Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:24 pm EST

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    I've seen this Youtube clip pop up a couple of times as evidence of Mangino's temper. And in the context of that clip only, I'll defend the big man: the player had it coming. He made a stupid, selfish, completely unnecessary play and Mangino gave him what he deserved.
    But if he routinely treats people that way then of course it's a problem.
  3. OG Warrior Fan
    3. Posted by OG Warrior Fan Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:02 pm EST

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    Wait....don't all football coaches do this?
  4. Hitman
    4. Posted by Hitman Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:03 pm EST

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    Let's see now- a full grown rough and tumble senior linebacker is complaining because the mean old coach jabbed him in his chest with his finger? No wonder Mangino is upset. Hey Arist (?) Wright- how about growing some huevos, crybaby?
  5. PHUC NUTT/as in houston
    5. Posted by PHUC NUTT/as in houston Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:09 pm EST

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    now football is supposed to be "PC" ? they've already made program's change their offensive indian name's. so this is the new frontier ? what's next no more tackling ? are there gonna be flag's thrown for vulgarity on the field now ? yelling @ student athlete's isn't the issue w/mangino. you won't me to say what is ? seem's pretty clear. the guy is an eyesore. he's digusting to look at. maybe not the face any program want's at the helm of one it's major program's. to think coaches don't get all up in their player's asses like some toilet paper is being naive. if your gonna call it then call it like you see it.
  6. just4funsies
    6. Posted by just4funsies Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:37 pm EST

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    Maybe they should lock Mangino and Charlie Weis up together in a Chinese buffet, and see what madness ensues... I got ten bucks that says they'd be found with their JOWELS hopelessly tangled together.
  7. Paolo X
    7. Posted by Paolo X Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:34 pm EST

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    This Mangino situation sounds like it might be going akin to that of Bob Knight but for far, far less with a poke in the chest. Apparently the AD who inherited him there does not like him, so perhaps we have sort of a Jerry Jones-Jimmy Johnson situation as well.
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    Whitlock of all fat folks should NOT be one to lecture others about anger management.
    Whitlock’s better days are spent seeking an endorsement from Wendy’s so he can eat there for free for years.
    He has become so much less relevant as have most media types in this different blog world that he resorts to just chiming in with the race card and writing with more crankiness and anger than ever.
    Whitlock jumped the shark when he tried to defend Stuart Scott from charges of marital infidelity for no more reason than apparently being his "homey." Good thing is that we hear less from him than ever nowadays.
  8. TEXaco
    8. Posted by TEXaco Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:39 pm EST

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    I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly...
  9. J-D
    9. Posted by J-D Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:58 pm EST

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    So... does being massively overweight explain Whitlock's irrational anger too? Talk about the pot and the kettle.
    P.S. When parents get involved with the football program, nothing good can come of it. See also: Arkansas and Houston Nutt, Dan Hawkins screaming "IT'S DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL!!!!" OK, I guess something good came of that.
  10. LongTrans
    10. Posted by LongTrans Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:21 pm EST

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    What are you talking about? Mangino is in shape! Round is a shape.
  11. Sports are just a game calm down
    11. Posted by Sports are just a game calm down Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:41 pm EST

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    HA! Apparently Kansas recruits babies with overprotective wiener parents.
  12. just4funsies
    12. Posted by just4funsies Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:23 pm EST

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    "I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly... "
    Mangino's close... He's JELLY.
  13. Shane
    13. Posted by Shane Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:31 pm EST

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    My goodness people this is football, I have no problem what coach Mangino did in the video clip. If anything he taught the player a lesson about show boating. If a coach is not alowed to discipline his players its going to be just like what has happened in our schools where the teacher has no recourse of action when a student acts up. What does a person remember more a good old butt whipping or an hour in detiontion. Let coach Mangino be!
  14. bigfoot
    14. Posted by bigfoot Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:34 pm EST

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    Lombardi wouldn't have lasted a week in this day and age.
    Poor football players.
  15. bigfoot
    15. Posted by bigfoot Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:36 pm EST

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    Lombardi wouldn't have lasted a week in this day and age.
    Poor football players.
  16. Blackjudge05
    16. Posted by Blackjudge05 Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:45 pm EST

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    LOL!!!! Jason FATlock is the last guy that needs to be talking about sumbodys weight. He's been the poster child for OBESE writers of america.com. Since he was a toddler.
  17. Eric F
    17. Posted by Eric F Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:11 pm EST

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    Poor football player...did 'ems mean coachie-woachie poke 'em in the chest? Poor baby. Maybe the widdle biddy baby wants his widdle biddy diaper changed. JESUS CHRIST ON A CROSS PEOPLE! This is FOOTBALL! Man up and grow a pair! Maybe the day of the screamer, as a breed of coach is over, but until we plant the last of them in a bone yard somewhere then be prepared to be yelled at and poked. As long as a kid isn't actually struck then there is no blood, hence no foul. As I said earlier this is football not girl's soccer - as long as your not playing for New Mexico.
  18. lewis m
    18. Posted by lewis m Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:30 pm EST

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    Why single out Mangino? All he was doing was the exact same thing every good coach does, try to teach his players to not cost their team a stupid penalty.
  19. Timothy B
    19. Posted by Timothy B Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:42 pm EST

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    Even so, people are acting as if you have to be temperamental to get a response from your players. Rarely do you see Urban Meyer blowing up on the sideline. Being poked in the chest or whatever is a [profane] move when you complain about it, who cares, but everything that Mangino has done as a whole is being taken into account. The parking ticket incident, and other incidents. No point of having a ticking time bomb on your sidelines, he's probably going to keel over sometime soon anyways. That's not going to be a good sight for college football when a coach dies on the sideline. You can find a coach just as good or better then him without the temper, and without health issues.
  20. freedog1985
    20. Posted by freedog1985 Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:51 pm EST

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    He's just mad because Princess Leia choked him out in "Return of the Jedi"...
    MIZ-FKU
  21. Robert C
    21. Posted by Robert C Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:16 pm EST

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    I would be pissed too if I was 500 lbs and nicknamed Jabba the Hut.
    If anyone was a good candidate for GP surgery...I would say it is Mark.
  22. ralph
    22. Posted by ralph Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:42 pm EST

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    Coach Mangino and the jayhawks were on the bus to play Texas and got lost so coach Mangino stops at a gas station to ask the clerk how he could get to 183 and the clerk replies: well coach, you could mix in a salad every once in a while.
  23. MarkSouthFL
    23. Posted by MarkSouthFL Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:01 pm EST

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    A poke in the chest? I'm not going to defend it, but seriously, somewhere Kevin Rutledge, Ken Fritz and Charley Bauman are laughing their heads off at Arist Wright.
  24. Kevin C
    24. Posted by Kevin C Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:52 pm EST

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    No OG, not all football coaches grab players when they berate them.
  25. radio17
    25. Posted by radio17 Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:58 pm EST

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    Hadn't seen the clip and not sure what all the fuss is about with Mangino. Stoops and most of his coaching staff pull that stuff every game. I'm not an OU fan or hater, just been to a few games against OU 6 rows up from the field and Stoops & company make Mangino's Youtube rage seem dainty & polite.
    Mangino may be an angry, fat dude employing questionable coaching methods, but the Youtube video is a lame example of rage. Not condoning it, just saying don't call out Mangino as a mean guy with rage for something that those from the hard ass coaching set do all the time.

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