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Today's question comes from reader Ryder Kouba -- a fake name, perhaps, but a good question:

As a grad student who is struggling to find funding (Worst. Grad Student. Ever.) I was curious about how scholarships work financially. I assume that universities actually have to pay the tuition for an athlete rather than not having said athlete on the books (particularly at state schools). But how does this work for out of state and in-state tuition? It seems that programs like Oklahoma would simply cost more since they have a lot of out-of-state players (insert OU cheating joke here). Are schools ever limited from recruiting out of state players because they simply can't afford to?

Along these lines, how are stipends determined? I assume a USC football player is receiving more per month than one at Iowa State due to cost of living differences. I would be interested also in which schools give their players the most and least per month.

Every school is different, according to an assistant A.D. type I talked to from a large, public Pac-10 school, but athletes at public schools are definitely on the books. In the case of self-sustaining athletic programs, the athletic department will write a check to the university from its scholarship fund on behalf of the athlete, and the process from the university's perspective is handled exactly the same way it would be for any other student. All scholarships are awarded and ultimately funded by the school, though the NCAA also pays for some portion of scholarships through its various revenue-sharing arrangements, the largest of which draws from the vault of the basketball tournament's multi-billion-dollar broadcast deal with CBS.

Surprisingly enough (to me, anyway) out-of-state tuition does apply to athletes, according to my source, and out-of-state athletes are more of a drain on funds: "It's more expensive for a university to pay for scholarships for out-of-state athletes, no question about it." This is an advantage for private schools, where "tuition is just tuition," though most public schools probably don't take the difference into account when they go recruiting out-of-state -- not in the big sports, anyway, where you can never afford to scrimp on talent. My guy said he's never known a school to discourage out-of-state recruiting to keep costs down, but it's definitely possible, especially when so many athletic departments are beginning to tighten the belt. Schools would save on travel and lodging for the recruiter, too.

Stipends vary from school to school, as well, based on a formula that takes into account the room and board and other standard costs for the average student at the university. So large urban schools will pay a little more -- for example, the room and board of a typical Iowa State student is in the neighborhood of $5,000 per semester; at UCLA, it's over $12,000 per semester. A couple years ago, USC receiver Dwayne Jarrett's monthly housing stipend in Los Angeles was $960 when he was admonished for living in lavish digs with Matt Leinart, mostly paid for by Leinart's father, that cost over $3,800 a month. I don't know the real estate market in Iowa, but I did go to college in the middle of nowhere, so based on my experience I suspect a kid in Iowa State would probably look at a $960 apartment in Ames about the same way Jarrett did the luxury pad in L.A.

So, yes, players in urban areas and other expensive locales will do a little better with their stipend (although I'm sure the coaches never mention this on recruiting visits).

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  1. Brandon I
    1. Posted by Brandon I Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    As an Iowan (though not from Ames) I would think that $960 would easily cover an athlete's monthly rent for an apartment (or even a house) there.
    Unless, of course, the place has nine bathrooms, three pools, and a bowling alley, in which case ... well, he'd better have a few roommates.
  2. Kegg L
    2. Posted by Kegg L Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    Show me da Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  3. notsooldballcoach
    3. Posted by notsooldballcoach Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

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    I coach at a d3 school, so obviously the scholarship part doesn't apply, but most schools would never want their football team to discriminate against out of state kids. Generally, a university is going to try to strive for a diverse student body, so they actually encourage the football team (who recruits the biggest single group of freshmen each year) to help them bring in kids with different backgrounds. Hell, we got a nice little budget increase last year because our President wanted more students on campus from Florida
  4. Duk
    4. Posted by 'Duk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Great post, Doc. I had no idea that athletic depts. were on the line for out-of-state prices, either.
  5. pvint
    5. Posted by pvint Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:01 pm EDT

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    Not only does out-of-state recruiting cost more in travel and scholarship money, but you have you use more of your weekly allotment of recruiting points. getting an in-house visit with that 5-star quarterback in maine could cost you 60!
  6. BradDawg
    6. Posted by BradDawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Wow, I didn't even make $960 a month working 40 hours a week during my first year of college (2003). Guess I should have played football instead.
  7. Big C
    7. Posted by Big C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    Who is the guy in the pic???
  8. grounder
    8. Posted by grounder Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    One additional point that would be helpful here - what's the mechanism for renewal on a year-to-year basis? I'm guessing, based on stories of scholarships getting pulled, that they are not a true commitment by the school. Just curious.
  9. Tim
    9. Posted by Tim Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:08 pm EDT

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    Calrton, in the picture is former Iowa WR Dominque Douglas. He's currently serving a bit of jail time in Michigan for armed robbery. He was kicked off the Iowa team after getting charged with using a stolen credit card and months later getting charged with stealing DVD's from Best Buy (Maybe Wal-Mart).
    Grounder, schollys are good for one year, and can be revoked after any year. You hardly see it happen, as it would look very bad to a potential recruit, but sometimes you'll hear of it happening.

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