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Another bad sign for Louisville, from Ron English's "exit interview" in today's hometown Courier-Journal: When your outgoing defensive coordinator describes a 34-point defeat in the midst of a five-game losing streak as "his favorite game of the season," that's when you know your fleeting time as a national player is long, long gone:

Interestingly, [English] said his favorite game of the season was at Pittsburgh, a 41-7 loss, "because our guys kept battling no matter what."

"We had three linebackers who had just set foot on campus," he said. "They couldn't set the front half the time."

English, on his way to the head the hopeless project at Eastern Michigan, practices his much-needed spinning skills by portraying his year in the 'Ville as one of beleaguered, improbable competence from ruin: The Cardinals lost five defensive starters to injury over the course of the year and wound up taking so few defensive players (23, including walk-ons) to the slaughterhouse finale at Rutgers that English says he started to flip out over attendance at a meeting before he realized everyone who was supposed to be in the room was. He says the staff "ran the numbers" and concluded that, at the start of the fourth quarter against Cincinnati on Nov. 14, Louisville was in the top 30 in total defense and the top 10 against the run. Of course, UL allowed 105 points and more than 1,200 yards over the last nine quarters of the season to finish 70th in total defense and 38th in rushing D, but who's counting?

Here, according to English, is the real reason Louisville went from a top-five, Orange Bowl winner to a last place team content to "keep battling" -- numbers:

"I watched Louisville for years, and from a talent standpoint, they were easily a top-20 talent team, and even top-10 at one point," English said. "And I was kind of surprised when I came here. The big-time schools win because of depth. You can't win playing 22 guys. Honestly, you need 18 guys on defense who can really play.

"Right now at Louisville, it's a building deal. It's not even like they're at the back end of a deal where you were rolling. This is a flat-out building phase. That's just the reality. You just don't have the players. … You can't have attrition like they've had and not take a step back."
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Randy Edsall, Jim Leavitt and Brian Kelly might like to hear more about these lack of players. From 2005-2007, the core of this year's team, Rivals ranked Louisville's incoming classes substantially ahead of UConn, South Florida and Cincinnati all three years, and the Cardinals signed almost three times as many players rated four or five stars (11, not including 2004 commit Brian Brohm) as the Huskies, Bulls and Bearcats combined (4). Louisville's record the last two years against those three conference rivals: 2-4 (the overall conference record is 4-10, if you throw in the back-to-back losses to Syracuse), after going 8-2 against that trio and running up a 24-6 conference mark in four years under Bobby Petrino. I'm sure the rest of the Big East -- and Louisville fans, in particular -- are interested in exactly what happened to all those players when Steve Kragthorpe began his "building phase."

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  1. gtne91
    1. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    "I'm sure the rest of the Big East -- and Louisville fans, in particular -- are interested in exactly what happened to all those players"
    Half of them quit and the other half are in jail. Or so it seems.
    AD Jurich is very quick to blame Petrino for recuiting "bad eggs". If he was doing that, I wonder why Jurich gave him a 10 year contract extension?
  2. gtne91
    2. Posted by gtne91 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    An additional half of the missing players had bizarre career ending injuries/medical conditions. 2 defenders had the same rare spinal condition that the coaches could only remember occurring once before in any of their careers.
  3. CardsFan922
    3. Posted by CardsFan922 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:36 pm EDT

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    I was going to write a long post but it can pretty much just be summed up thusly: Kragthorpe sucks.
    The reason we lost all of those players is because of Kragthorpe. Petrino may or may not have brought in "bad apples" but they didn't get in trouble under Petrino because he was a true disciplinarian. They were afraid of him, they worked their asses off and if they got in trouble (mainly for smoking weed is what the rumors around town are), they were punished.
    Krag is NOT a true disciplinarian, but rather just throws guys off the team (for smoking weed, is what the rumors around town are). There have been some random career-ending injuries (Peanut!) and some arrests (guys who DID NOT get arrested under Petrino) but most of the player loss comes from Kragthorpe sucking as a Coach.
    Also he is a bad game and clock manager, calls terrible plays, doesn't run hard practices, works 9-5, can't recruit, is paid $1.2M per year and has a terrible relationship with the fanbase.
    We have gone from having most of the players back from a team that was 1 bad half at Rutgers from playing tOSU for the MNC to consecutive no-bowl seasons, a LOSING year this year, and last place in the Big East because we lost the tiebreaker to Syracuse.
    The reason there are no players is because Krag is a bad coach.
  4. JP Girouard
    4. Posted by JP Girouard Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    Yeah, or maybe Petrino bolted for the piss-poor Falcons job because he saw the house of cards (no pun intended) about to fall.
    Agree about the general premise that Kragthorpe hasn't shown himself to be much of a coach - at least in the Big East - but some of this was a mess left for him by his predecessor.
  5. Dustin L
    5. Posted by Dustin L Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    we lost to syracuse for the second straight season. enough said.
  6. swedge_block
    6. Posted by swedge_block Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:50 pm EDT

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    The problem is number of players. You can't win if you don't have enough players to substitute, the D-line played most of the year with 6 guys. Unreal. When the secondary started to drop like flies, it was more than likely exhaustion. I don't think Krag has forgotten how to coach, but I could be wrong. As for the "star system" of ranking high school players, that has to be the local sports writers telling people how good a certain player is, or how good he is going to be in college. I don't think anyone has a crystal ball to say how determined or how much heart a player is going to give on the field at the next level. William Gay and Harry Douglas were 3 star players and played well for the Cards and now at the NFL level. Last night should a good measure of talent, Utah 31 - Alabama 17, Utah 2 and 3 star players, Bama 4 and 5 stars. The Cards need alot more 3 star players with heart.

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