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From a sportswriter’s perspective, Al Groh might be the most annoying coach in Division I-A. He always looks sour. He doesn't say anything interesting. And every time he looks like Virginia is poised for a breakthrough, they end up disappointing -- as they did in 2005 by upsetting undefeated Florida State, only to finish the regular season 6-5 and wind up in the Music City Bowl. But every time someone says he’s a dead man walking, as Stewart Mandel did right before the 2007 season, when the SI.com scribe called Groh the worst coach in D-IA, he somehow manages to prove the doubters wrong: After starting off the ’07 season with a humiliating loss to Wyoming, for examples, Groh led UVA on a death-defying seven-game winning streak (four of them by two points or less) and managed to put the 'Hoos in a New Year’s Day bowl for the first time since 1994. That season, however, was followed by a stumble to 5-7 in 2008, and some segments of the UVA fan base are getting a little tired of the roller-coaster ride.

Why he was hired: Groh is a Virginia grad, and his coaching résumé is fairly extensive. His six-year stretch at Wake Forest in the early 1980s was unremarkable (the Demon Deacons only notched one winning season during that span), but he’s also served stints as an NFL assistant under both Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick.

The "Uh-oh" moment: The Cavs picked up one of their biggest wins under Groh when they upset fourth-ranked Florida State at home, 26-21, after a slow start in 2005. The very next week, though, they went to North Carolina and provided a textbook case of the post-upset hangover: Against the same Tar Heels that had been tagged for 69 points by Louisville the previous week, the Cavs stumbled around for four miserable quarters and lost by the 1905-esque final of 7-5. That would also be UVA’s final record after pulling out a close win over Minnesota in the Music City Bowl to redeem a 52-14 beating at the hands of Virginia Tech. Since that bowl game, Virginia is just 19-18, with two losing seasons and zero wins against hated Tech.

Embarrassing attempt to right the ship. The ship hadn’t technically started listing yet when Groh introduced the “Sea of Orange” concept to Scott Stadium, encouraging fans to wear orange to the games instead of their usual, swanky game day attire, but he still managed to tick off a tradition-happy fan base aligned more with the coat-and-tie/sundress-and-pearls sartorial philosophy of the Deep South. By 2008, some members of UVA’s student government were proposing to collect the “Power of Orange” T-shirts distributed to all incoming freshmen and send them to developing nations overseas.

But the “Sea of Orange” concept still comes out smelling like a rose compared to Groh’s decision to promote his son (and former UVA quarterback) Mike to offensive coordinator in 2006. Groh the Younger’s offenses finished 113th, 101st, and 104th in the nation before he was finally canned — yes, by his own dad — barely a week after the Cavs concluded last year's fiasco. Mike was last seen angling for a graduate assistant gig at Alabama.

Can this marriage be saved?: Yes, says Brendan of Wahoo blog From Old Virginia, but it’s hardly a given:

I think there are a couple things that are conspiring right now to bring the heat on Groh (from the fans, at least) down from a boil to a simmer. First, a lot of the anger was directed also at Mike Groh, who was a lousy offensive coordinator and was replaced this year. The arrival of the spread offense helps to postpone some of the pressure while fans wait and see what we’ve got.

Most importantly I think, there’s an interesting duality among UVA fans that keeps us from speaking with one voice and prevents the heat on Groh from being a unified force. There are some fans who wonder why we can’t be like other schools and compete for ACC titles all the time. And some are angry at what they see as the turning of UVA into “Big State U” like other schools. Some of these fans are the same people.

As far as the administration goes, I think Groh is on a short leash, especially now that [men’s basketball coach] Dave Leitao has been fired. It was widely perceived (though not confirmed) that AD Craig Littlepage, not Groh, fired the three assistants last year. And it was more or less confirmed that Littlepage, not Groh, was responsible for the dismissal of ex-starting QB Peter Lalich. When the AD takes a hand in that stuff, it’s a bad sign for the head coach. Another bowl-less season would mark the first time we missed a bowl in consecutive seasons under Groh, and I think it’d be the end of his tenure.

Approximate heat of seat: The sunny side of the planet Mercury (let’s say 800 degrees, give or take). If Groh gets the Cavs back into a bowl, thereby approximating the seven-win standard he inherited from George Welsh, he’s probably safe. Even an enlightened egalitarian like Thomas Jefferson, though, would probably issue pink slips for a third losing season in four years.

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Other coaches on the hot seat: Steve Kragthorpe.

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  1. BrantS
    1. Posted by BrantS Mon May 04, 2009 1:25 pm EDT

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    Doug, let me get to the point. You are an idiot. Did you ever coach D1 football or in the NFL? I was born and raised in CVille as a UVA fan and eventual alumni. UVA football sucked when I was young. George Welsh was the king of up and down. Start the session strong and then lose out every year. Do you think UVA is even going to win a national title with the academic requirements they have?
    Al Groh is a great coach who does not kiss the media's butts. Yes hiring his son was a bad move, but he wanted to have someone who would stay long term and could one day take over. It was a bad move but many coaches have done this such as Bobby Knight, Bum Phillips, Eddie Sutton..etc.
    Littlepage is the worst AD in the nation. He has a huge ego and makes decisions based on his resume not what is best for the school or winning. Leito was a bad decision as was hiring Tony Bennett.
    I will live and die with Al Groh. There will be highes and lows, but that is UVA football.
  2. Holly
    2. Posted by Holly Mon May 04, 2009 1:42 pm EDT

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    You went to UVA and didn't learn the singular form of "alumni"? Mr. Jefferson would be ashamed at your poor grasp of Latin, sir.
  3. PurdueMatt
    3. Posted by PurdueMatt Mon May 04, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

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    Brant has low expectations. UVA academics rock!
  4. Doug G
    4. Posted by Doug G Mon May 04, 2009 2:35 pm EDT

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    Brant, there's nothing you could possibly say to me that my UVA-diploma'd parents haven't said a thousand times worse. I just barely stayed in the will when I decided to attend an SEC school, and he still won't let me drive his car.
  5. Zachary K
    5. Posted by Zachary K Mon May 04, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    why doesn't doug get a "Y! SPORTS BLOGGER" tag?
  6. Holly
    6. Posted by Holly Mon May 04, 2009 4:59 pm EDT

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    It's like the Sneetches up in here. DIFFERENT DIFFERENT DIFFERENT!!
  7. glen
    7. Posted by glen Mon May 04, 2009 5:29 pm EDT

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    as a virginia tech student and soon to be grad, al groh's contract extension (after a losing season, mind you) made us all here in blacksburg so happy, we even made t-shirts, thanking uva for their thoughtfulness in promoting our team to 4 more years of kicking wahoo tail:
    http://www.zazzle.com/beating_uva_t_shirt_it_never_grohs_old-235792650091646223
  8. Random Guy #237
    8. Posted by Random Guy #237 Tue May 05, 2009 12:35 am EDT

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    I, as a Tech student and football fan, love Al Groh. he's coached up his team to get Virginia TECH into the ACC championship the past two years. I am eternally grateful.
  9. Jeff B
    9. Posted by Jeff B Tue May 05, 2009 10:17 pm EDT

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    Keeping Al would be an excellent decision. VT,I mean,UVA will continue to benefit as long as he is leading the team.
  10. clarence_beaks2005
    10. Posted by clarence_beaks2005 Tue May 05, 2009 10:34 pm EDT

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    BrantS, sorry, but I have to call you out on this one, "Do you think UVA is even going to win a national title with the academic requirements they have?"
    90% of the Hokie players have offers from UVa.
    It has nothing to do with your players. You had four players taken in the draft this year and the Hokies had one.
    The simple fact is that your program is soft. Colin Cowherd said it best. You don't win because you don't have what it takes to win, institutionally, in a competitive sport. You're simply going to have to settle for winning in lacrosse and soccer, as you're more willing to pour money into programs other schools don't care about, because they don't generate revenue.
  11. 96HooFballer
    11. Posted by 96HooFballer Wed May 06, 2009 11:04 am EDT

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    To Clarence, from an insider's perspective -
    You are probably correcting in stating "90% of the Hokie players have offers from UVa". However, it does not end there. As a student-first, ex-letterman, I can tell you student atheletes do not receive any breaks from the professors once in school. Student athletes are held to the same standards as Echols and Jefferson scholars. There are no easy majors. Some will say Psychology but as a dual Psych/Applied Mathematics major myself, I would disagree. Time was a very finite resource that I had to manage continuously w/o even minor lapses. Between classes, group meetings, film room, weightlifting, practice, recovery, and study time, days were exhausting.
    Knowing what I know, I continually ask myself this and ask it of all here - why does UVa continually lose players to academics and other teams do not? Could it be the support system? Yes. Could it be other factors? Most certainly.
    Now, probably what you are all waiting for, my opinion of the program. Was Groh the right hire? I personally do not think so. Groh's comment about "checkers and chess" is absolutely dead on. The NFL is a job - you can hire, demand performance, reward if necessary, and fire if warranted. The college game simply is not the NFL and cannot be treated as so.

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