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Starting next week, I'm going to dust off the annual "Contenders" series, breaking down teams that have a good shot of opening the season at No. 1 and their chances of actually finishing there next January. Since national championships were on the brain, then (and because I've already made made a similar point this week), an aside by Chris Dufresne as he marveled at Southern Cal's draft bonanza in today's L.A. Times caught my eye:

It also makes you wonder why Florida has won two national titles since 2004 and USC hasn't.

Ah, yes, those enviable Gators. It does make you wonder, since USC has a better record than Florida (or anyone else) since 2004 and has matched or exceeded their record three out of those four years, with a dramatically better winning percentage (.778 to Florida's .600) against teams that finished in the final AP poll. The Trojans have four conference championships -- and, subsequently, BCS appearances -- to the Gators' two, and a near-FSU-like run of 10-win seasons and top-five finishes, each now at eight straight to Florida's one straight on both counts. Both SC and UF have had two one-loss seasons in that span, and neither has been undefeated.

But Florida leads in crystal footballs (and year-end poll votes), two-nil, and those things ought to come with a gavel to bang out an end to the discussion. The Gators are the gold standard in this conversion because consistency is not success like the peak is success, and USC -- along with Oklahoma, Ohio State and, if it doesn't deliver this year, Texas -- hasn't been to the peak in an entire recruiting cycle. The bums.

The distinction -- especially the last two years, when making one among four or five barely distinguishable contenders in early December has seemed so fundamentally unfair -- is a reminder of the critical role of two seemingly ephemeral issues when considering a preseason No. 1: A) Scheduling, not for the clichéd "clear path" to the title game, but for difficulty, which offered Florida (for example) a chance at redemption after its early loss last year that USC did not have despite a virtually identical defeat on its record (see also: Michigan in 2006); and B) The shear, maddening randomness of it all, the kind that can bestow a championship on a team with two losses to unranked opponents in 2007 three years after denying an undefeated team from the very same division from even playing for one and still count both as rational outcomes.

As a peak, No. 1 is relative, and the exact altitude teams have to scale to be one step above the competition changes every year. Only one variable remains relatively constant:

A reporter asked [Ohio State safety] Kurt Coleman what it was like to be on such a different team, one that isn't on anybody's national-championship radar, and the senior cornerback looked perplexed.

"That's fine," he said. "Because what it comes down to is, if you win all your games, you're going to be put into the talk of a national championship."

Coleman's zen moment may not strike anyone but me and the Columbus Dispatch's Bob Hunter (who saw in it the fundamental greatness of college football, or at least a column idea in late April), but it's the other great reminder of preseason prediction season: Right now, they're all contenders.

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  1. Haunz
    1. Posted by Haunz Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:10 pm EDT

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    1st. On an unrelated note, religion is total bull
  2. Jonathan E
    2. Posted by Jonathan E Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:17 pm EDT

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    #1- ??? Nutter.
    One important thing to consider when comparing the draft factory of USC to the Championship factory of Urban Meyer is system.
    Florida doesn't teach or run a pro style and doesn't develop pro talent by skills or knowledge. USC runs pro systems. Players' talents and knowledge transfer to the NFL.
    The most important thing to remember is that Florida and USC have never played in either teams' stretch of success. The BCS bylaws prohibit competition.
    So making any assumptions about players or coaching in this case is just plain stupid. Very stupid. And bad juournalism.
  3. Red4564
    3. Posted by Red4564 Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    Good points here, Matt. It's ridiculous the number of columnists and talking heads that rip the Trojans for not winning national championships with "all that talent". Dienhart over ar Rivals did it in a column today. When draft time comes around, they gush over the talent, and the number of high draft choices, and the power - but when it comes to putting the Trojans in the title game, they won't do it. In both of the last two years, USC has the same number of losses as a title game participant, and yet they were overlooked by the writers and coaches. Why can't the Trojans win more than one title with all that talent? Because hypocrits won't put them in the title game.
  4. mangere_bridge
    4. Posted by mangere_bridge Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:55 pm EDT

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    I could carp that "Florida... doesn't develop pro talent by skills or knowledge" *is* making an assumption about players and/or coaching, but #2 is sort of right.
  5. gtne91
    5. Posted by gtne91 Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Right now, they're all contenders.
    Not true. Right now, 66 teams are contenders. If they go undefeated, any BCS team can, with the right breaks, go to the title game.
    Not so much for the other 54 teams.
  6. James P
    6. Posted by James P Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:52 pm EDT

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    Maybe USC's problem is that the rest of the PAC-10 - whether rightly or wrongly - is looked at as being second rate. For the PAC-10 it is USC and all the rest of the dregs. So the fact that USC plays all the other teams in its conference isn't looked at as a scheduling strength at all. The fact that USC tries to schedule tough teams like OSU and Nebraska - both traditional powerhouses - doesn't help them out when both teams aren't considered top caliber. Again, rightly or wrongly. And it doesn't help that your big out of conference rival Notre Dame is in year 18? of Return to Glory.
    I'm not a Southern Cal fan at all, but I do think that their "blunders" in the PAC-10 have gone to hurt them more than Florida or LSU in the SEC, and that is due to the perception of the conferences as a whole. Is Vanderbilt really better than Stanford? Tennessee vs UCLA? Auburn vs Cal? What do you think the championship games would have looked like in 2007 and 2008 if it was USC vs LSU or Florida? Impossible to tell, unfortunately.
    At the beginning of 2008, when the PAC-10 was getting waxed by the WAC they were looked on as the sorriest conference in the nation. Then they sweep their bowl games and everything is daisy, but looking at the preseason morass I'll bet the PAC-10 is looked on as weak again. Of course I doubt you'll find too many SEC teams eager to schedule USC after the schellacking they gave to Arkansas and Auburn...
  7. Uncle Grandfather
    7. Posted by Uncle Grandfather Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:42 pm EDT

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    "So making any assumptions about players or coaching in this case is just plain stupid. Very stupid. And bad juournalism. "
    And thats just bad grammar.
  8. bobby
    8. Posted by bobby Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:15 pm EDT

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    a question has any preseason number one finished there? wire to wire
  9. wassup
    9. Posted by wassup Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:20 pm EDT

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    @8: Actually, most of us call that spelling.
    @7: I think you hit it on the head. USC suffers because so much depends on the perception of conferences-turns out the Pac-10 was pretty good and the Big 12 was not as good as advertised (at least looking at the bowl results). To me, that's one of the biggest arguments for a playoff system-you have teams being denied on the biases of people who often don't do much research or even watch the teams they vote for...
  10. Weiss j
    10. Posted by Weiss j Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:53 pm EDT

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    To #9 USC actually finished wire to wire #1 from Pre-Season to Post-Season when they won their bcs national championship in the 2004 season in which they beat Oklahoma in the big game.
  11. jim m
    11. Posted by jim m Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:24 am EDT

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    1st. on another unrelated note, religion is cool!
  12. babyruth
    12. Posted by babyruth Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:40 am EDT

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    This year Florida will have a lot of NFL draft picks ... the last team was just plain young. 2006 they had 9. USC is talented but so is Florida. Just a game between the two would be nice ... it wouldn't have to be for anything more than some bowl somewhere ... would be better than the BCS championship!
  13. Dan W
    13. Posted by Dan W Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    i agree absolutely with the posters above me that it is the perception of the pac-10 that hurts usc. even though i believe the pac-10's pretty damn impressive conference vs conference winning percentage makes that perception false.
    usc has finished with an equal number of losses to a title game participant multiple time and not only that but that participant would've been an underdog in vegas to usc. but everytime, usc is ignored in the conversation and they go on to destroy their unfortunate bowl opponent.
    if i were a usc coach or fan and i once again got shunned out of a title game where i would've yet again been the favorite, i would be fighting hard for a playoff.
  14. Dave R
    14. Posted by Dave R Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Where to begin? How ‘bout the “draft factory” label… being drafted is not playing or contributing. Run down the list of Carroll era players who have made major positive impacts in the NFL… times up and your right: none! Now go back to the U of Miami’s glory run and you’ll get an idea of what a real draft factory is like.
    As for those PAC10 bowl victories; BYU, Miami, OK State, Pitt and Penn State, quite the murderers row which almost evens out the beating the WAC gave you this year. You should be proud!
    As for USC’s scheduling “traditional powerhouses” well that’s a nice way of saying they were good when your father was a boy.
    Finally Red4564 – those “hypocrites” gave USC one unearned championship and they’ve split the two they’ve played in… LSU; two for two!
    And I'll leave you with one last question... weak league; "best coach in college football"; roster full of five stars... why is it you can't go undefeated?
  15. Stephen
    15. Posted by Stephen Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    Jonathan E sounds butt hurt
  16. CuseFanInSoCal
    16. Posted by CuseFanInSoCal Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:48 pm EDT

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    14 - Because college football is played by 18-22 year old boys, and as such their emotional state has a great effect on how hard they play, and they won't play their best for every game. Also, the 'weak league' bit is complete BS most years; usually the Pac 10 is statistically the strongest BCS conference (though that wasn't the case last year).
  17. Leifericson
    17. Posted by Leifericson Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:00 pm EDT

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    The SEC has been the best conference at least the last 8 years.
    It's really not that close?
    The SEC won the NC again last year, won more bowls than the Pac, and beat better teams!!
    What else is there to think about?

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