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Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:44 pm EST

The Hunt: No. 36, Wisconsin

(Screw you, I'm an anteater!)

The Hunt for the Most Interesting Team in the World is the Dagger's 2009-10 countdown preview series. Check out the overriding principles here.

Last year's record: 20-13, 10-8 Big Ten

2009-10's toughest games: Duke, at Michigan State, at Purdue, at Ohio State

Primary attraction: Wisconsin is boringly awesome, each and every year, which ironically makes them interesting. But is 2009-10 the year they're just boring?

1. Bo Ryan, model of consistency. You've watched Wisconsin basketball games before. You don't need me to tell you. There's something about them, isn't there? Something about the players they recruit. Not the stars, like Alando Tucker and Devin Harris; those sorts of guys could fit in anywhere. I'm talking about the Joe Krabbenhofts and Brian Butches and Marcus Landrys of the world, the guys that, for whatever reason -- whether a lack of athleticism or a quiet productivity or whatever it is -- somehow seem like they belong only at Wisconsin. They're Wisconsin players. It's weird and difficult to define, but you've watched Wisconsin basketball. You know what I mean.

That sort of weird, boring productivity is still productivity, and Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan milks it for all it's worth. Each year, despite a seeming talent deficit, Wisconsin competes in the Big 10 and makes the NCAA tournament and often goes further than expected. But what about 2009-10? This year, the Badgers are more talent-bereft than usual. Does Ryan's streak of boring NCAA tournament victories end? Do the Badgers -- gasp -- become just one of 20 or 30 untalented NIT teams you wouldn't flip back to even if nothing else was on?

2. Marcus Landry and Joe Krabbenhoft leave big shoes to fill. Former Wisconsin forward Landry and Krabbenhoft got things done. They scored on the offensive end -- Landry with an outside jumper and effective seal-off post moves down low, Krabbenhoft with putbacks -- and they rebounded. And now they're both gone. Who steps up? Wisconsin does have an interesting prospect in Jon Leuer scored 8.8 points per game last season in relatively limited minutes off the bench; a starting spot should see him blossom into a productive guy. The Badgers also have their top recruit of 2008 (who was No. 75 overall in his class, which doesn't bode well for Wisconsin's immediate future), 6-foot-10 center Jared Berggren, ready to run.

3. It ain't the thing if it don't have that swing. The swing offense! Fun! Actually, the swing offense isn't all that fun. It's very methodical and slow; that sixth-grade team you volunteer coach will not adapt well to its intricacies. Yet, thanks to the premium it puts on inside shots from big, tall dudes, the swing offense is very effective, and no one runs it better than Bo Ryan and Wisconsin. What the offense also manages to do, besides get good shots on the offensive end, is force opposing defense to switch a ton of screens and beware of all sorts of back cuts, the kind of thing that wears opponents down. Wisconsin was No. 334 in adjusted tempo last season; if the Big Ten ever wants to blame someone for its entire league being slow, they should blame Wisconsin. 

Anyway, if you're really interested in the swing, have a go. In fact, take it to your buddies and tell them to study up, because you're putting it in your rec league's repertoire. You will have very little fun, but you will win. A lot. 

Mateen Cleaves still wants to fight everyone in red.

In 1998, Michigan State guard Mateen Cleaves was busted for underage drinking. Oh well. It happens. But if you're a college basketball player, and you have to play at Wisconsin the next day, you can expect a bit of student section ribbing. Mateen apparently did not. From Sports Illustrated:

Before playing at Wisconsin in February 1998, Michigan State guard Mateen Cleaves was arrested for underage possession of alcohol (a misdemeanor for which he completed a first-offenders program). After the Grateful Red student section serenaded Cleaves with 99 Bottles of Beer, Spartans coach Tom Izzo had to restrain Cleaves. "I had to drag him off the floor because he wanted to fight the whole place," Izzo says. "Then again, maybe he had some of it coming."

Two things: Mateen Cleaves is too sensitive. And Tom Izzo is too awesome.

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  1. Teh
    1. Posted by Teh Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:58 pm EST

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    take one down, pass it around... 98 bottles of beer on the..
  2. Darand B
    2. Posted by Darand B Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:50 pm EST

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    Boring, perhaps if all you want to see is fast breaks and absente defense (a la the NBA Allstar Game). However for those people who appreciate the game of basketball and all its intricacies, the Swing is thing of rare beauty.
    A well written piece, nice compliments to Bo. He does get all he can "milk" from his players. Fantastic coach, even better person and humanitarian.
    Go Big Red!
  3. Grant
    3. Posted by Grant Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:57 pm EST

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    No. Won't happen. Because this year is just about the same as any year. They may not have first round NBA draft picks (but with some of the crap that DOES get drafted, maybe the NBA should look at who they pick... Michael Flowers was definitely good enough to get drafted his senior season... B.J. Mullins 24th overall? Give me a break.
  4. Clody
    4. Posted by Clody Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:23 pm EST

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    The thing that everyone always says, "Winning is Winning" no matter how you do it. Sure you can call the swing offense slow and boring, but it wins games. It's a fundamental offense, not a run and gun offense. It's about basketball IQ, smart decisions and tough defense. Basketball in this country has become all about the extremely athletic, score 100 points, and terrible defensive teams that lead to shootout games. Yes it is exciting, but every team would rather win than have a fun time and lose. In my opinion, Wisconsin plays basketball the way it should be played, an all-around game. They have offense (sometimes), they have tough defense, they're fundamental, they make smart choices, and they win (consistently with mediocre players). So much credit is given to coaches that win championships when they are given five of the top ten McDonalds All-Americans. I'd like to see them coach Wisconsin level talent and see if they can still be on top. A good example is Roy Williams right now. He has better "talent" right now than Bo, yet Wisconsin has been three teams in the top five, while Roy will probably not make the tournament. You give Bo the same kind of "talent" as some of these basketball powerhouse teams and he would make the final four just as much as these top tier coaches. Yet in the preseason Wisconsin is always picked to be at the bottom, and it takes six weeks to even crack the top 25. That is not because they do not deserve it, it is a lack of respect for their type of play. It seems that analysts these days care more about fast paced, super athletic talent more than they do all-around play. They would rather watch an NBA all-star game in the college sphere than have them actually learn discipline and complete an overall game. If every coach were able to get their teams to play defense like Wisconsin or Michigan State, we would not have games that teams score 100 points. It is that lack of discipline and understanding of the overall game that has become the norm of celebration in college basketball. I would much rather prefer to win, and win not by saying I will score more points than you, but win by saying I will not let you score at all.

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