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The big eligibility scandal of the offseason has focused on Renardo Sidney, the star Mississippi State recruit whose lodgings in California have come under question from the NCAA clearinghouse. Little did anyone know that a much bigger recruit -- Kentucky's John Wall, the No. 1 overall player in this year's class -- is, at this point, just as ineligible. As my most esteemed colleague might say: whoa boy.

The issue is John Wall's AAU coach, Brian Clifton, who was registered as an agent with FIBA for about a year. If Wall received benefits from Clifton, such as plane rides to tournaments, uniforms, sneakers -- anything, really -- Wall would have to repay whatever he received before he could be eligible to play for Kentucky. According to ESPN's report, Kentucky compliance officials have been working "feverishly" to figure out if Wall owes money and if so, how much.

Maybe this isn't any more unlikely than Sidney's long-running eligibility issues, and maybe this will all be resolved by the time Kentucky plays its first exhibition game on Nov. 7. But there are a few reasons why this is different from Sidney, namely because it's so surprising -- how was Kentucky able to keep this under wraps for so long -- and because Wall is the premier player in the country leading a rejuvenated UK fan base fresh off its most orgasmic offseason on record. If Wall's ineligibility doesn't get sorted out in the next few weeks, make no mistake: it's a major blow.

But it's also not one that will cost Kentucky much on the court. The punishment for Wall's offense, assuming there is one, is that "an athlete can be withheld from at least 10 percent of a team's games." My math's not great, but that means Wall would likely miss three or four games. Not exactly the most exciting news Kentucky fans have ever heard, but certainly not the most devastating, either.

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  1. TellinThaTruth
    1. Posted by TellinThaTruth Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:59 pm EDT

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    Oops.
  2. Karl Marx
    2. Posted by Karl Marx Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:11 pm EDT

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    I guess Collins is the better PG. Funny how trouble seems to follow Cal (UMASS, MEM).
  3. neal
    3. Posted by neal Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:56 pm EDT

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    this is why UNC terminated recruiting him. Roy has class and only recruits classy players. that jackass of a coach, callipari, is a time bomb waiting to explode with his recruiting scandals and UK better be alert or he'll drag them down with him. i guess he's got just another thug that's only about the dollar here with wall..........
  4. Vince
    4. Posted by Vince Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    UNC is so awesome!
  5. Vince
    5. Posted by Vince Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:09 pm EDT

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    npatrick2004=uk hater, but that's okay - hate on!
  6. D
    6. Posted by D Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    John would embarass collin's chubby ass. Unc is going to get squashed by Kentucky. John is a good kid.
  7. D
    7. Posted by D Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    n patrick has no clue.
  8. Sharon
    8. Posted by Sharon Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    unc faithful you will love to know that puke signed one of walls teamates. lets see ESPN break that story....Not going to happen. same with playing final four with inelageble player and on and on and on.Forde is a bigger Uk hater than anyone on here so get in line directly behind forde, packer,hubert and the rest because the BIG BLUE is baaaack.
  9. neal
    9. Posted by neal Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:06 pm EDT

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    no i don't hate UK. i have the utmost respect for UK, they're tradition, and their players recruited pre-callipari. it just makes me mad to see him knowingly pull something like this a year ago at memphis and now at a great bball school like UK. the guy is a cancer on the sport and is only in it for his name and the dollar. give him a few years, he'll end up like indy's old coach with recruiting scandals. when this happens, he'll tarnish the history of a prominent program and hurt their fans. the only way i could hate callipari more is if he coached at DOOK. I mean UK has one of the classiest players in the sport in patrick patterson. why get a selfish egocentric, maniac, coach with no character to go against that?
  10. Kristy
    10. Posted by Kristy Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:50 pm EDT

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    Oh gee, let's see how people can make THIS out to be Calipari's fault, too!
    Wait, I got another one for you. Calipari also caused the housing meltdown and subsequent stock market fall last year. Oh, and I bet Calipari caused Serena Williams to berate that line judge at the US Open. He has also been bribing the MLB umpires to give all those bogus calls to the Yankees! Oh, and did you hear that he drugged Mike Tyson so he would lose to Buster Douglas??? Hold on! Where was Calipari during the '80 Olympics when the US beat Russia in hockey????
    IDIOTS......
  11. BasketballFan88
    11. Posted by BasketballFan88 Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:18 am EDT

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    Calipari has a past record of bringing in recruits who have skirted amateur laws and rules. What a huge gamble for Kentucky. They may end up winning titles only to have them stripped later. Fact is that according to history Calipari has lost both his final four runs from the record books.
    Every time a story like this comes out, Kentucky the commonwealth will hold their breath and pray that the future NBA talent Calipari brings will follow the rules while still in college.
    Oh and make sure they take their SAT's.
  12. Sharon
    12. Posted by Sharon Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:33 am EDT

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    HELLO!!!!!!!!
    did you not catch what I was trying to get across in my last post? Ryan Kelly Pukes 2009 top 10 recruiting class member played with John Wall this past AAU season. i did notice that nobody is pointing this out. not one post by all the nervous BIG BLUE haters and definately not by Forde, Bilas,Hubert or any one else that hasn't been up the butt of espn. But funny thing is that on the player profile videos on the espn recruits you see the Best player in the country dishing the rock to none other than that TOP recruit for the Duckies [ I do wish that coach K would stop Recruiting classless low life recruits like Ryan Kelly. THat arogant money ungry kid that only has $$$ bills dancing in his head] Now i say this because John Wall is not guilty of anything and neither is Ryan Kelly I have had the privilage of meeting and talking with both. Every kid on that team is guilty of nothing. So that said if this is only a rule that the SEC has so be it. But if the ACC or any conferance that any of these recruited any of the kids then Forde, Bilas Hubert and most of allESPN should be buzzing around Durham NC. any second. But that will not happen look at the past expect the same in the future.Because the BIG BLUE is back in abig way and if your not down with that than to bad.Shame on any one that calls these kids bad kids because they played on an AAU team together put that in you smipe and poke it!!!! LOL GO BIG BLUE!!!
  13. Cheers 4 Beers
    13. Posted by Cheers 4 Beers Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:34 am EDT

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    Like Ive said time and time again,Lilblue is the most corrupt team in sports.No surprise whatsoever to me.Thats why Carolina and Duke backed off.But as a Tarheel fan, were not desperate for the thugs.Our players are A B students anyway.But if our biggest rival was Indiana or Tennesee,we could start our freshmen every game....Pitiful..
  14. Cheers 4 Beers
    14. Posted by Cheers 4 Beers Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:38 am EDT

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    Oh its just 4 or 5 games.Thats the problem with cheaters.Everyone knows its so much more than a lil spending money.....I hope he fails
  15. Sharon
    15. Posted by Sharon Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:38 am EDT

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    well well well UNC needs to back off of CJ Leslie. because they dont recruit thugs and low lifes..lol your comment holds no water.BIG BLUE is starting to get in on the thugs and low lifes that Duke and UNC are after. does that make you pout.LMAO!!!! If Kelly is good enough at Puke and Lesley Good enough for UNC.Th
    en Send all the trash to UK...LOL Get a grip and face the facts BIG BLUE is Baaaaack!!!!!!!
  16. Sharon
    16. Posted by Sharon Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:43 am EDT

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    Lets see Kelly.Lesley and Wall plays on the same AAU team Kelly is a prize recruit,lesley is UNC biggest target but it is UK that is the cheaters.. Phsycobable at its best..............Here Come Big Blue are u ready..LOL
  17. conjk123
    17. Posted by conjk123 Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:12 am EDT

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    I will have to agree with Bobby B it will be 4-5-6 games if he gets proven guity but he'sprobably not going to get in trubal do to the lack of Proof the only wahy to find proof is to seach his AAU coach's credit Card History for Plain and college info and if they find no proof of that then Wall walks like a free man but it could go eather way
    GO BIG BLUE
  18. conjk123
    18. Posted by conjk123 Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:13 am EDT

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    i will have to agree with Bobby B it will be 4-5-6 games if he gets proven guity but he'sprobably not going to get in trubal do to the lack of Proof the only wahy to find proof is to seach his AAU coach's credit Card History for Plane and college info and if they find no proof of that then Wall walks like a free man but it could go eather way
    GO BIG BLUE
  19. StevenL
    19. Posted by StevenL Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:22 am EDT

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    You could become ineligible because your former coach was whatever?!!! And how can expenses associated with playing on a team, i.e. plane rides to tournaments, uniforms, sneakers, etc. be considered as "benefit"? The NCAA is really, really getting ridiculous here!
  20. StevenL
    20. Posted by StevenL Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:39 am EDT

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    What is NCAA Clearinghouse for? I think rules should be adopted that once a players is given a go by the Clearinghouse, he is eligible until further change of status. That means ineligibility of a player cannot be applied retroactively and school should not be forced to forfeit games for issued not discovered at the time. Another thing: If NCAA decides to forfeit games, then fans should receive refunds for ticket purchases; because that is essentially like issuing recalls for defective products.
  21. y2andru
    21. Posted by y2andru Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:21 pm EDT

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    Ryan Kelly at Duke had the same AAU coach as Wall and things were handled the exact same way. Wonder why no one is talking about that?
  22. cledus
    22. Posted by cledus Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    Bobby B, that's a lame excuse with the whole rivals comment, & 7 titles to 5, baby blue poses no threat to us, y'all will get handled this year like Rasheed Wallace by Andre Riddick
  23. kybp32
    23. Posted by kybp32 Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    Let the kids play ball!!! ncaa is so old fashioned. rules do not fit this era. nothing to do w/ wall/kelly/etc. just look at some of the decisions made. telling schools players are eligible and then taking away wins. years later. the ncaa should do their job right first; then we would not even be discussing this.

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