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So, this morning's report on the NCAA's Memphis punishment was only part right. Memphis will vacate their 38 wins from the 2007-08 season (those wins will be sent to the Land of the Non-Existent Wins, a purgatorial kingdom where Marcus Camby is King and Chris Webber bides his time for a chance at the throne). But Memphis will also face punishment in the here and now: The NCAA slapped Josh Pastner's program with three years of probation, too, just for good measure.

Here's what stinks about all this: It still doesn't matter. Sure, it's a little unfair that Pastner should have to tiptoe around for something he likely had little to do with in the first place while Calipari, who -- whether or not he was completely ignorant of Derrick Rose's fraudulent test was the guy in charge of the program -- glides away free to Kentucky. But probation isn't much either. So long as Pastner doesn't do anything stupid in three years, Memphis will be all right.

(Oh, and for the record, about Derrick Rose's test. It is officially Rose's test, and he apparently took his test in Detroit, the official home of Worldwide Wes. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.)

No, this stinks, and the reason why is that after all the nonsense, after the NCAA investigation and the hearing and the rumors and the back-and-forth on Calipari's involvement, the NCAA has failed at its job yet again. It's failed to create any sort of punitive system that would preemptively dissuade cheaters fromcheating.

Luke Winn hit this on the head this afternoon:

When Pitino was allowed to keep his job last week -- despite a morality clause in his contract that seemingly would have allowed Louisville to fire him without a buyout -- it wasn't a great day for the public image of college basketball. A message went out to present and future coaches: If you build up enough capital by winning games, your employer will be willing to overlook even the sleaziest of personal scandals. As the NCAA prepares to erase another Calipari milestone, another message is being sent: You can have not one, but two Final Fours vacated for using ineligible players, and still become the highest-paid coach in the game, at the most storied basketball school in the land. Knowing that, what incentive is left to stay clean?

He's right. If you're a coach, as long as you're careful enough, there's literally no reason not to cheat. If you're a player, and you're good enough to leave for the NBA in a year, there's literally no reason not to cheat. See where we're going with this? This investigation was basically a gigantic waste of time, energy, and authority. I hope the NCAA at least recycles its paper.

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  1. Jay L
    1. Posted by Jay L Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:40 pm EDT

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    Calipari, Pitino: couple of scumbag goombas, congratulations, Kentucky
  2. Coach Isiah Thompson
    2. Posted by Coach Isiah Thompson Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    John Calipari did not condone Derrick Rose's cheating ways. He did not lie about it or even cover it up. He never encouraged Derrick Rose to do what he did. All John Calipari is guilty of is the same thing that afflicted Andy Pettite and millions of others who get caughty.......the exact same thing Roger Clemens tried to warn us about months ago.......John Calipari simply misremembered. And now you know the rest of the story.........good day! Discuss!
  3. Coach Isiah Thompson
    3. Posted by Coach Isiah Thompson Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:59 pm EDT

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    the "y" is silent after caught(y)
  4. ndkuperstock
    4. Posted by ndkuperstock Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:13 pm EDT

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    Derrick Rose defrauded Memphis out of a scholarship, and someone who otherwise could have had his space lost out.. Yes, it may be that whoever was talented enough to be considered by Memphis but lost out got a scholarhip elsewhere, but that's not the point. This is a crime for which something of value - a scholarship to college - was obtained through fraud. The University' has an obligation to past, present and future students to uphold the integrity of the admission's process, and should pursue any civil remedy available to it. Additionally, the Tennessee authorities should pursue this on a criminal basis. Lastly, how can David Stern and the ownership of the Bulls not suspend Rose without appearing to condone this fraud?
  5. jim m
    5. Posted by jim m Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:00 am EDT

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    Truth is... testing service got it wrong.... not memphis... think about the facts...
    i don't give a rip about memphis... or who is the coach... ncaa is stupid... testing service is corrupt from the get go... memphis had nothing to do with running the test...
    service testing is gulity.... and americans jump on memphis for it? what is this foolishnes... and dagger and others can't see this fact.... tell me exactily... with facts please... what memphis did wrong.... only the facts... ciao
  6. Aaron
    6. Posted by Aaron Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:45 am EDT

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    What a joke the NCAA is. The NCAA has audio, and a paper trail of records that show Reggie Bush and his family accepted $300k but have done nothing about it because the internal investigation from USC has never been reported back to the NCAA. What a complete joke of an organization the NCAA is. Someone needs to start a new college athletic organization.
  7. Kris
    7. Posted by Kris Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:07 am EDT

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    Calipari had better watch it or he'll start to get a reputation as the Jackie Sherrill of college basketball. It seemed like everywhere Sherrill went, he'd put together good teams, have success, then move on to the next job, one step of the NCAA investigation. Don't know if he was ever found "guilty" of any serious violations, but rumor had it he was up to his ears in some pretty shady activity. And so too with Calipari - allegedly. I have less problem with the NCAA stripping Memphis of the victories it "earned" while Calipari was coach, than I do with the NCAA's former (?) practice of imposing penalties on colleges/universities and their current players for a prior coach's bad acts - that is eminently unfair.
  8. Aaron
    8. Posted by Aaron Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:21 am EDT

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    Shouldn't players be held responsible (and coaches if they know about it) for defrauding an institution? It's fraud, plain and simple. He's stealing the value of a scholorship by commiting fraud. I think Memphis should be able to sue Rose for the value of his scholarship, plus damages. It doesn't seem fair that they get off scott free.
  9. Benny
    9. Posted by Benny Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:44 am EDT

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    UMass, memphis, New Jersey Nets. Coach Cal has left a bigger mess in his wake than Katrina. Kentucky's going to pine for the days of Eddie Sutton's violations.
  10. Rachel
    10. Posted by Rachel Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:52 am EDT

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    Some people are saying this punishment is a "powder puff" punishment. Well I think that is a crock of you know what. The punishment is affecting Pastner's clean and well run program, while Coach Cal and the ever so corrupt WorldWide Wes are sitting pretty making millions. Atleast this brings to light the utter ridiculousness of Calipari and his crew. So the people that are probably at fault the most, Rose and Cal, are doing just fine. This brings up the question, "Should players really be required to wait a year after high school before going pro." If this is the outcome than I think not.
  11. Pops
    11. Posted by Pops Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:01 am EDT

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    I still do not see where there is any absolute proof that Memphis did asnything wrong whatsoever regarding the entrance exam claim. If they have cold, hard facts, the NCAA should have to give them up. Anyone accused of a "crime" is supposed to be given a chance to defend themselves without a kangaroo court like the NCAA makng vauge accusations. ?Show me the documentation and the sworn under legal oath testimony from anyone that this actually happeneed. All the supposition and finger pointing in the world isnt going to make it a fact without proof. But the NCAA, and apparnelty a good many so called sportwriters, columnists, and sheep-like following fans just go along with what has become a prevalent notion in our society these days. If you are accused, you must be guilty, yo have to prove your innocence. Folks, its supposed tob e thother way around, this is America not the damn Taliban! And i also find it hypocrytical that the NCAA and so many of these same columnists have chosen to look the other way and hope that it goes away about the many, much more serious issues at USC involving Reggie Bush and OJ Mayo. Not to mention the fact that Kansas won a title over the Tigers with a player in Darell Arthur who should have been ineligble to begin with due to grade changing. If Memphis should have known about Rose, Kansas should have known about Arthur, fair is fair. And USC is just a joke, ther NCAA wants no part of bringing down one of their cash cows and a member of the "club", BCS. Absolute bull [profane].....
  12. DamienW
    12. Posted by DamienW Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:03 am EDT

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    Is Kentucky really more storied than UCLA?
  13. Michael B
    13. Posted by Michael B Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:06 am EDT

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    Memphis loses an entire season's worth of wins, a season in which they set a record number of wins and came in 2nd in the NCAA tournament. They go on probation for 3 years. This is a powder puff punishment for the alledged actions of one player? How could the school have prevented these alledged actions or found out about them? How could the coach have prevented this? How could anyone have prevented this except for the one administering the test? What would be an appropriate punishment for the school? I assume you want to punish the school, the new head coach, who was not the head coach at the time, or the current players, most of whom were not on the team at the time, or the new incoming recruits.
    If someone is to blame, blame the NBA for requiring players to play one year of college before going to the NBA. This creates a situation in which the player gets into college by any means necessary, uses the university for one year, then goes to NBA to make millions while leaving the school to deal with any sanction repercussions.
    Great point about Reggie Bush, he has not been punished at all. Another example, baseball players proven to have used steriods. I think the punishment Memphis received is harsh compared to no punishment.
  14. Willie
    14. Posted by Willie Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:27 am EDT

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    yes i agree, the ncaa is a farce/fake wanna be organization, that only wants to control the money that these young athletes bring in from their participation in the different sports in which they play. now i do not accept cheating as a way of life. but to strip a feat in which there was no cheating on the playing field or court? that is just ludicrous! the same thing happened to ohio state in basketball with their 1999 final four appearance. the former coach(jim obrien) gave money to one of the players for his family back home in the war-torn country in which he was from. and the ncaa told ohio state to take down the banner, just craziness! but it had nothing to do with what took place on the court of play, and ohio state making the final four that year. so as far as i am concerned, that was one of the greatest championship games of all time. memphis, you were in the final four and your seniors won a record number of games in doing so. the ncaa needs to wake up, and btw put a playoff system in place for division I football! it is the only sport from youth to high school to college to professional, that does not have a playoff system in place. tgif everyone, tc :)
  15. Crazy M...
    15. Posted by Crazy M... Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:57 am EDT

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    Here's an idea, dont let them play in the NCAA tourny for the next 3 years.. Probation, stop the presses. That punishment is so harsh, it is making my azz hurt.. NOT!!!!! If you are going to punish a team, go all out. Loss of scholarships, banned from the tourny, giving up wins etc. NCAA is being way to easy on Memphis... It goes to show how dumb althletes are when they need other people to do their class work for them...
  16. ron
    16. Posted by ron Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:23 pm EDT

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    As long as there is money involved like there is today in the big two (basketball, football) college sports there will always be rules violations. Not the little ones like free books for and athlete, but the big ones like the Memphis Rose deal. Is there any way to scale the money back in these sports? Probably not because it's already out of control. These college sports generate more overall money than their professional counterparts these days. How can anybody really believe any big tiime college programs are on the up and up? If you do I have some beach front condos down in Cuba I'd like to sell you.
    Ron Kelly
  17. ron
    17. Posted by ron Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:24 pm EDT

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    As long as there is money involved like there is today in the big two (basketball, football) college sports there will always be rules violations. Not the little ones like free books for and athlete, but the big ones like the Memphis Rose deal. Is there any way to scale the money back in these sports? Probably not because it's already out of control. These college sports generate more overall money than their professional counterparts these days. How can anybody really believe any big tiime college programs are on the up and up? If you do I have some beach front condos down in Cuba I'd like to sell you.
    Ron Kelly
  18. ron
    18. Posted by ron Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:26 pm EDT

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    As long as there is money involved like there is today in the big two (basketball, football) college sports there will always be rules violations. Not the little ones like free books for and athlete, but the big ones like the Memphis Rose deal. Is there any way to scale the money back in these sports? Probably not because it's already out of control. These college sports generate more overall money than their professional counterparts these days. How can anybody really believe any big tiime college programs are on the up and up? If you do I have some beach front condos down in Cuba I'd like to sell you.
    Ron Kelly
  19. Arturo L
    19. Posted by Arturo L Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:15 pm EDT

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    The NCAA has stringent rules: violate them, win championships, cry like hell at the winning trophy ceremony, earn a big bonus so that you can cheat some more and... move on.
    Whom do I see ?
  20. ckelly1st
    20. Posted by ckelly1st Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:58 pm EDT

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    If I want to see mega talented athletes that can jump out of the gym and super behemoths that bang each other around I will watch professional basketball. Its not necessary for those guys to play college basketball for ir to be compelling. I dont really want to cheer for guys who are pampered, spoiled, self-serving who have had it all handed to them their whole lives. Most of them are social misfits anyway. I would prefer to watch somee really good athletes who play the beautiful game the right way as a team. Two good competitive teams can be very fun to watch. I dont watch March Madness for the Kentuckys , Memphis', Kansas', and UCLA hypocrits. Do you think that Rose and OJ Mayo and some of these other one and dones have ever seen a classroom. Give me real student athletes. Trust me there are plenty of them who are great players , certainly not guys who will play in nba but so what. I dont care who makes it to NBA. I want them to go to college for the education. Why shoulkd a moron like Ron Artest go to college.
  21. brown5760@...
    21. Posted by brown5760@... Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:47 pm EDT

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    coach cal should be responsible for the whole farce of pete rose. the buck stop at the coach, not the school. ncaa should be investigated by congress and demolish for thier irresponsible actions.

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