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You might remember earlier this summer when John Wall, the No. 1 recruit in the country, was taking his sweet, sweet time deciding which school he would grace with his presence in 2008-09. Wall's process of elimination was a brutally long affair; Wall started with basically every school and gradually whittled them down, list by list, into his final four. He eventually chose Kentucky, but not before one of the longer, more interminable recruiting processes in recent memory.

Still, to his credit, Wall made his decision a month ago. Lance Stephenson, perhaps New York City's most decorated high school basketball player ever, has no such luck. The difference between Wall and Stephenson? It's not Stephenson eschewing interest in schools; it's the schools who keep losing interest in Stephenson.

This was bad enough on June 1, when Chris wrote about the topic, but it's now June 23, and Stephenson still doesn't have a school. Maryland rescinded its scholarship offer. St. John's, who would seem desperate for a New York-based savior, withdrew its interest. As of today, Florida International's Isiah Thomas has dropped the issue. The only coach still actively recruiting Stephenson appears to be Memphis's Josh Pastner, whose program may or may not be vacating a whole batch of wins -- if not worse -- this offseason.

Why is Stephenson still scholarship-less? The New York Daily News asks that question today, and the answers they come up with can be summed up as such:

1. Stephenson has a domineering father known for his loud antics at basketball games and clashes with Stephenson's high school coach. His father, Lance Sr., has also handled much of Stephenson's recruiting. Coaches are likely scared off by that relationship.

2. He might not be eligible. Stephenson will likely invite a whole mess of NCAA scrutiny once he signs on with a school for a variety of reasons, including an online TV show that was picked up by MTV2 (was he compensated?), a tour through the Under Armour factory with CEO and Maryland booster Kevin Plank, and the simple fact that he just might not make the grades.

3. Stephenson is currently charged with sexual assault for allegedly groping a 17-year-old; he's set to appear in court on June 29 with a teammate from Lincoln High School. If convicted, Stephenson could face 90 days in jail, which may or may not coincide with basketball season. Either way, "we recruit sexual offenders so long as they can be at practice on time!" isn't exactly the motto most coaches are going for.

4. His attitude. Chris's post had a quote from a USA Basketball coach about why Stephenson didn't make the under-18 team last year, and it was about team-related attitude. In the Daily News story, a Big East assistant says "With Lance, it's always me, me, me." Davidson's coach, Bob McKillop -- coincidentally the coach of the U-18 USA Basketball team that cut Stephenson -- is now on the record saying:

"Five percent of the game is played with the ball in your hands," McKillop told the News at the time. "The other 95% is played without the ball in your hands. Lance had to work on that."

Ouch.

One of these things, or maybe even two of them, would probably be fine. I mean, if coaches never took players with strong-willed parents, or players with some semblance of criminal behavior, or players with eligbility issues, or players that were convinced they needed to have the ball all the time, the NCAA would hardly exist. This is how it works. Elite basketball players occasionally come from bad backgrounds, or have behavioral issues, and that's never stopped coaches before.

But when you roll up all four of Stephenson's issues and put them in one volatile package -- and when you throw in the high-profile nature of his recruitment, and the fact that the NCAA seems certain to investigate Stephenson the minute he steps on a college campus -- you get a radioactive player. In fact, Stephenson might be the first player in the one-and-done era who was simultaneously this talented and this undesirable. He's enough to make college hoops coaches catch a conscience.

It's kind of a miracle, actually. Dr. Manhattan would be impressed.

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  1. Hitman
    1. Posted by Hitman Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:49 pm EDT

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    This kid should change his name to Frankenstien- he is a combination of all of the bad things and habits that make up today's "athlete". Overbearing, money grubbing parent, me-first attitude, could care less about grades because "I am a Star" attitude, a sexual assault merit badge. Add a drew rosengreed agent and he will have the " Star Athlete Attributes" covered. Next will be alcohol, steroids and drugs. Then he will have the total package.
  2. bigboo's bro
    2. Posted by bigboo's bro Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:13 pm EDT

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    If Lance ends up without a top NCAA ride, it might teach some fellas like him a lesson. I think the NBA age rule is stupid and unfair, but that doesn't mean the NCAA has to get infected by Lance's crowd. If the NCAA makes the right rules concerning academic eligibility, early departures, and graduation, and you can turn the Lances of the world into one-shot program busters.
  3. eastcoast
    3. Posted by eastcoast Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    I guarentee you, 3 years from now, he will be Lance Who ?
  4. Bones
    4. Posted by Bones Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:58 pm EDT

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    Not so fast, pretty much all the same things said about Brandon Jennings last year. And he's about to be a lottery pick. Just go to Europe, ave 5 pts a game, bash a much better player like Ricky Rubio, and you could be in the lottery next year kid
  5. A Yahoo! User
    5. Posted by A Yahoo! User Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    people like him dont deserve to play college sports or even professional
  6. The Shadow
    6. Posted by The Shadow Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    Lance should go play in Europe for at least a year. That way, when his father shows up at games and starts "screaming"; NOBODY but Lance will understand what he's saying. This to me is a win-win situation for everybody. For Lance (no grades to worry about), for dad (scream all you want), for the NCAA (problem gone to Europe), for the NBA (see you next year), for Europeans(another egotistical American to punk on). WISE UP LANCE, Europe will do you some good!
  7. jerry k
    7. Posted by jerry k Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    I think he will end up at ky if hes cleared of charges.Then they will have the best recruiting class ever in the history of college basketball!!!
  8. jamie l
    8. Posted by jamie l Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    You guys are idiots when that man is in the NBA you busters will still be sitting on your boring couches bloging about a million dollar basketball player who could care less about what you say let the kid be a kid and get rid of that terrible thing called hate haters!!!!!!
  9. Joshua R
    9. Posted by Joshua R Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    to Bones-
    Rubio plays team ball, sounds like Lance doesn't. Like the article says, if he were only 2-3 of these things he'd have a college to go to, but too much baggage. I would agree with east coast in 3 years we'll be asking Lance who?
  10. alderman j
    10. Posted by alderman j Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:46 pm EDT

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    This cat is NBA ready, there arent any grades to worry about or recruiting violations in the NBA, as soon as he is eligible he will be a lottery pick, im no fan, i think he and his father are complete idiots, but that dont mean as soon as he is eligible he wont be coming off screens for somebody in the NBA. So say what you want he is a victim of the communist age rule, crazy thing about that is in Hockey and Baseball, even when a kid expresses his desire to go to school, they still draft them and offer them money and to pay for there school later, hate to pull out this card but why is it acceptable in baseball and hockey but not basketball, why can this high school kid skip HIGH SCHOOL to play BASEBALLl and there is no uproar, if his name was Lamar Stokes from compton playing BASKETBALL, that is all we would be talking about. But since its Bryce Harper from vegas playing baseball its back page news! THis is ridiculous, i challenge anyone to explain this to me and make some sense out of it. For all we know this kid could be the next jd drew!!!!!!
  11. Christopher
    11. Posted by Christopher Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    More judging of a person we don't know at all. Ahhhh! The American way. Destroy a person before his 21st birthday!
  12. Roy B
    12. Posted by Roy B Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    How many of these blue chippers actually are worth a crap in the NBA. The NCAA is the last chance for some of them to be the guy and lead a storied college to the final four before they are bench players or play in europe or fizzle out in a couple years. Stephenson will be a mid first round pick and will be the rookie in camp that thinks he is the $h!t and the pros will have to bust the kid down. It is sad that he probobly wont be anything special but could be a star in NCAA and if he never wins a NBA championship he could tell his kids that he helped resurrect Kentucky Indiana or ST Johns. Also he will still be filthy rich because he will still be a lottery pick
  13. Vic Black
    13. Posted by Vic Black Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:04 pm EDT

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    Amen
  14. sik
    14. Posted by sik Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:10 pm EDT

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    white black yellow orange it duznt matter the point this dude is makin is that Lance wont make it cuz hes too much of a selffish player and most college players want team players not selffish ones even if he did make the NBA players like lebron kobe cp3 would shut that man down at the knees iof he cant score he wont beat ya
  15. bamkapowme
    15. Posted by bamkapowme Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:16 pm EDT

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    Not go after Clemens, McQwire, and Canseco? Are you serious? Yes they weren't attacked during the steroid era, but NO ATHLETES WERE. And most athletes (see NFL) are still not. However, Clemens and McGwire will probably not end up in the Hall of Fame because of the media coverage. Were you awake the last couple of years during Clemens and his f'in trainer? I think most of America knows more about Brian McNamee then they do about George Washington or MLK, Jr. And McGwire on the stand during the Senate Hearings? I'm sorry when was the last time you saw a Senate Hearing when it didn't involve a baseball player and steroids. Please try to make intelligent comments if you're going to say anything.
  16. bamkapowme
    16. Posted by bamkapowme Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:17 pm EDT

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    Also, Jose Canseco is a giant joke because of the media coverage. I'd probably listen to Carrot Top before Canseco.
  17. bamkapowme
    17. Posted by bamkapowme Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:21 pm EDT

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    Also please spare me the crying about his age and how we can't judge him. This is a f'in column. It's about opinions and judgements. Not to mention the fact HE HAS AN MTV2 SHOW.... ABOUT HIMSELF... REALLY?!?! And you're gonna play the don't attack the children part? If he's old enough to decide to create an MTV2 show about himself and reap millions because of it, he's opened himself up to criticism. (Which seems to be legit in light of his inability to sign with a NCAA program. St. John's wouldn't take him. Are you serious?! St. John's would take a dog if it could shoot the three at a decent clip.)
  18. crack pipe
    18. Posted by crack pipe Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:22 pm EDT

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    Post #10 is whacked and I know whacked because I smoke crack. I even know that is a lame comment as I light up my pipe. Remember Sweet Pea from NYC back in the late 90's went to UNLV and was bust. Was compared to Magic. This kid is a lost cause.
  19. Gothica
    19. Posted by Gothica Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:52 pm EDT

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    Put the basketball age limit the same as college football, and you'll see a lot less of these head cases in college hoops. So tired of high school kids acting more like mercenaries. As for this kid, good riddance, way to let your ego rule yourself.
  20. WaltMalt
    20. Posted by WaltMalt Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:00 pm EDT

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    Rubio is doing the same thing in the draft, dictating where he will go and his agent (might as well be his dad) is negotiating for him to only go to large market teams that are good, so how is Lance any different. Plus thats his right, his father is the one to blame, how many 18yr olds know the business..... if their wasnt a rule prohibiting him from going to the NBA, you wouldnt even be talking about this.... And he is one of the top 5 talents in the country, please believe his time will come, nothing you bloggers say can affect what he already has, immense talent and upside... and youth....
    and for the record, you cant compare football eligibilty with basketball, it takes a mature man to play football, theres 16 year olds that could hang in the NBA, theirs 16 yr olds on other countries national teams that played our dream teams, so age in hoop isnt a factor how your guys are treating it....
  21. Jordan
    21. Posted by Jordan Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:17 pm EDT

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    bamka - i'm pretty sure robbie d's was using sarcasm, and' he's right on point...settle down. I also agree with post 20; poster 10 is whack, but I also smoke crack so I may be biased. (bamka - I don't actually smoke crack)
  22. boltzfan
    22. Posted by boltzfan Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:22 pm EDT

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    Sounds like he'll fit right in with the NBA!
  23. Jordan
    23. Posted by Jordan Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:27 pm EDT

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    If you're halfway intelligent you can clearly see that this article is devoid of racial overtones, it's simply about an athlete who has messed up so badly that major colleges are afraid to touch him. "perhaps New York City's most decorated high school basketball player ever" are extremely high accolades, and the fact that none of these schools want to recruit him is amazing and quite telling. He'll drag any school that signs him into the gutter and they'll be mired in penalties, vacated wins and lost scholarships for the next few years.
  24. Ol' 44
    24. Posted by Ol' 44 Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:33 pm EDT

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    Please, do go play in Europe where your me first game will not fit in and you will be forgotten. What a joke and waste of talent. CLOWN lolololololololololololol. So typical.
  25. Wayne H
    25. Posted by Wayne H Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:35 pm EDT

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    Beware of the racism card as it dilutes the argument when it's actually present! NOt quite sure how pointing out self centered non team oriented behaviour for an athlete in team sport is considered racist. Get a life

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